Cultcow Mikemikev / Michael Coombs / Twinkle Toes / Velcro Pants - Pedo Teacher and Neo-Nazi, Advocate of Child Murder, Secret JewMuslim ANTIFA, A-Logs Null Constantly

[Mikemikev]

Nowhere near 100. At full strength they had maybe 50 divisions.

Mike - I insist you learn something about WW2 before even trying to talk to me about the subject. You are a mere dabbler and useless.

Indeed. The deployed armed forces for Axis and Soviet forces was almost equal on 22 June 1941.

Wikipedia:

In early 1941 Stalin authorized the State Defense Plan 1941 (DP-41), which along with the Mobilization Plan 1941 (MP-41), called for the deployment of 186 divisions, as the first strategic echelon, in the four military districts[j] of the western Soviet Union that faced the Axis territories; and the deployment of another 51 divisions along the Dvina and Dnieper rivers as the second strategic echelon under Stavka control, which in the case of a German invasion was tasked to spearhead a Soviet counteroffensive along with the remaining forces of the first echelon.[121] But on 22 June 1941 the first echelon only contained 171 divisions,[k] numbering 2.6–2.9 million;[2][122][123] and the second strategic echelon contained 57 divisions that were still mobilizing, most of which were still seriously understrength.[124] The second echelon was undetected by German intelligence until days after the invasion commenced, in most cases only when the German ground forces bumped into them.[124]

 

[LocalFireDept]

I am not sure how "people" like Mike can look his father, or any of his elders in the face. The Allies were no angels,
but we didn't make bricks from human ash. For me, that is the deciding factor when looking at any WW2 argument
objectively. I'm quite glad nazism is something reviled in the UK, and people like Mike are in a very small minority,
regardless of what shite he tries to peddle. Mike's edgelord dreams of nazi empires are merely ass-smoke.

"The Nazis did bad stuff but so did the Allies so attack them too!"

Wow, turns out war is hell and people have to kill each other with or without conscience. The Allies could be said to have committed attrocities against civilians in their strategies, but that does not negate the worst of what the Axis powers did. My personal area of expertise is the attrocities committed by the Japanese Imperial army, but the the sheer scale of systematic killing committed by the Nazis is what makes it horrific.

Whether we like it or not, we can assign a "value" of how atrocious a massive loss of human life is. To paraphrase, the death of one man is an outrage, but the death of millions is a statistic. But when we're measuring statistics against each other, one must categorically be worse.

The victors write the history books and while we cannot say the Allies are truly blameless, to even imply that this excuses what the Nazis did or to deflect away from that topic is absolutely a scummy tactic.

I expected no less from a goblin.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Wikipedia:

In early 1941 Stalin authorized the State Defense Plan 1941 (DP-41), which along with the Mobilization Plan 1941 (MP-41), called for the deployment of 186 divisions, as the first strategic echelon, in the four military districts[j] of the western Soviet Union that faced the Axis territories; and the deployment of another 51 divisions along the Dvina and Dnieper rivers as the second strategic echelon under Stavka control, which in the case of a German invasion was tasked to spearhead a Soviet counteroffensive along with the remaining forces of the first echelon.[121] But on 22 June 1941 the first echelon only contained 171 divisions,[k] numbering 2.6–2.9 million;[2][122][123] and the second strategic echelon contained 57 divisions that were still mobilizing, most of which were still seriously understrength.[124] The second echelon was undetected by German intelligence until days after the invasion commenced, in most cases only when the German ground forces bumped into them.[124]

you still want read up on Operation Barbarossa I see. As I said, don't talk about things you don't understand. Not a single person here had to resort to a wiki like some subhuman Welsh. If you were in school your professor would have laughed at you.

 

[Mikemikev]

1st Tank Division — with 1st Mechanised Corps in Jun 1941.
2nd Tank Division — formed June–July 1940. With 3rd Mechanised Corps in Jun 1941.
3rd Tank Division — with 1st Mechanised Corps in Jun 1941.
4th Tank Division — with 6th Mechanised Corps in Jun 1941.
5th Tank Division — formed June–July 1940. With 3rd Mechanised Corps in Jun 1941.
6th Tank Division — with 28th Mechanised Corps in June 1941. 6th Tank Division was part of the Transcaucasian Front when the Front moved into Iran, but was withdrawn from Iran in September 1941, whereas in November it was deployed by Novocherkassk with the 56th Army.
7th Tank Division — with 6th Mechanised Corps in June 1941.
8th Tank Division — with 4th Mechanized Corps in Jun 1941.
9th Tank Division — with 27th Mechanised Corps in June 1941. Quickly separated from 27th Mechanised Corps and re-designated 104th Tank Division.
10th Tank Division — with 15th Mechanised Corps in June 1941. Ground down to a strength of 20 vehicles while serving with 40th Army. Broken up August–September 1941 and reorganised as 131st and 133rd Tank Battalions.
11th Tank Division — with 2nd Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
12th Tank Division — with 8th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
13th Tank Division — with 5th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
14th Tank Division — with 7th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
15th Tank Division — with 16th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
16th Tank Division — with 2nd Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
17th Tank Division — with 5th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
18th Tank Division — with 7th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
19th Tank Division — with 22nd Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
20th Tank Division — with 9th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
21st Tank Division — with 10th Mechanized Corps in June 1941, with 201 or 217 tanks.[21] By 1 October 1941, part of 54th Army but had no tanks remaining.[22]
22nd Tank Division — with 14th Mechanized Corps in Jun 1941.
23rd Tank Division — with 12th Mechanized Corps in June 1941, disbanded by August 1941.
24th Tank Division — with 10th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
25th Tank Division — with 13th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
26th Tank Division — with 20th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
27th Tank Division — with 17th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
28th Tank Division — with 12th Mechanized Corps in June 1941. With 27th Army on 1 November 1941,[23] not listed in BSSA next month.
29th Tank Division — with 11th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
30th Tank Division — with 14th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
31st Tank Division — with 13th Mechanized Corps in June 1941. (in Shchuchyn area 1941)
32nd Tank Division — with 4th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
33rd Tank Division — with 11th Mechanized Corps, 3rd Army in Jun 1941.
34th Tank Division — with 8th Mechanized Corps in June 1941. On disbandment, elements reorganised as 16th Tank Brigade, which was later transferred bodily from the Red Army to the Polish Armed Forces in the East. See pl:16 Dnowsko-Łużycka Brygada Pancerna.
35th Tank Division — with 9th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
36th Tank Division — with 17th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
37th Tank Division — with 15th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
38th Tank Division — with 20th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
39th Tank Division — with 16th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
40th Tank Division — with 19th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
41st Tank Division — with 22nd Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
42nd Tank Division — with 21st Mechanized Corps in June 1941, disbanded by August 1941.
43rd Tank Division — with 19th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
44th Tank Division — with 18th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
45th Tank Division — with 24th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
46th Tank Division — with 21st Mechanized Corps in June 1941, disbanded by August 1941.
47th Tank Division — with 18th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
48th Tank Division — with 23rd Mechanized Corps in June 1941. Reorganised as 17th and 18th Tank Brigades in September 1941.
49th Tank Division — with 24th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
50th Tank Division — with 25th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
51st Tank Division — with 23rd Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
52nd Tank Division — with 26th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
53rd Tank Division — with 27th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
54th Tank Division — with 28th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
55th Tank Division — with 25th Mechanized Corps in June 1941. Destroyed August 1941 at Chernigov and remnants became 8th and 14th Separate Tank Battalions.[24]
56th Tank Division — formed from two cavalry divisions. With 26th Mechanized Corps in June 1941. Formed the basis of 102nd Tank Division in mid-July 1941.
57th Tank Division — with Transbaikal Military District in June 1941.
58th Tank Division — with 30th Mechanized Corps in Far East in June 1941. Became 58th Tank Brigade on 31 December 1941.[25]
59th Tank Division — with 2nd Red Banner Army in Far East in Jun 1941.
60th Tank Division — with 30th Mechanized Corps in Far East in June 1941. Became 60th Tank Brigade on 20 January 1942.
61st Tank Division — with 17th Army, Transbaikal Military District in June 1941, and still there in May 1945.
101st Tank Division — formed after July 1941; with Western Front in August 1941.
102nd Tank Division — formed after July 1941 from 56th Tank Division.[26] With Reserve Front in August 1941. Became 144th Separate Tank Brigade on 10 September 1941. (ru:102-я танковая дивизия (СССР))
104th Tank Division — formed after July 1941 by re-designation of 9th Tank Division; with Western Front in August 1941.
105th Tank Division — formed after July 1941; with Reserve Front in August 1941.
107th Tank Division — formed after July 1941; with Western Front in August 1941. Became 107th Motor Rifle Division 16 September 1941, and, three months after that, 2nd Guards Motor Rifle Division on 12 January 1942.
108th Tank Division — formed after July 1941, possibly redesignation or split of 69th Mechanised Division.[27] with Reserve Front in August 1941. Becomes 108th Tank Brigade on 2 December 1941.
109th Tank Division — formed after July 1941; with Central Front in August 1941.
110th Tank Division — formed after July 1941; with Reserve Front in August 1941. On July 21, the commander of 30th Army disbanded the 110th Tank Division and distributed its battalions to his rifle divisions; the battalion reassigned to the 250th Rifle Division was supposed to consist of two companies, one of ten T-34s and one of ten BT of T-26 light tanks, plus a command tank.[28]
111th Tank Division — formed 15 July 1941. With the Transbaikal Front in May 1945. By November 1945 was at Nalaykh, Mongolia. Redesignated 4 March 1955 as 16th Tank Division, disbanded July 1957.[29]
112th Tank Division — formed in August 1941 in Primorsky Krai on the basis of 112th Tank Regiment, 239th Mechanised Division, 30th Mechanized Corps, under Colonel Andrei Getman. With the Far Eastern Front in Sept 1941. Becomes 112th Tank Brigade on 3 January 1942.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Mike, go back and check out where those tank divisions were at the time. Seriously, you're just failing at this point. It would be best to just stop making a joke of yourself.

Also, read up on what a Mechanized army is while your on Wikipedia.

It's all well and good to copy and paste, it's another to understand it.

 

[LocalFireDept]

1st Tank Division — with 1st Mechanised Corps in Jun 1941.
2nd Tank Division — formed June–July 1940. With 3rd Mechanised Corps in Jun 1941.
3rd Tank Division — with 1st Mechanised Corps in Jun 1941.
4th Tank Division — with 6th Mechanised Corps in Jun 1941.
5th Tank Division — formed June–July 1940. With 3rd Mechanised Corps in Jun 1941.
6th Tank Division — with 28th Mechanised Corps in June 1941. 6th Tank Division was part of the Transcaucasian Front when the Front moved into Iran, but was withdrawn from Iran in September 1941, whereas in November it was deployed by Novocherkassk with the 56th Army.
7th Tank Division — with 6th Mechanised Corps in June 1941.
8th Tank Division — with 4th Mechanized Corps in Jun 1941.
9th Tank Division — with 27th Mechanised Corps in June 1941. Quickly separated from 27th Mechanised Corps and re-designated 104th Tank Division.
10th Tank Division — with 15th Mechanised Corps in June 1941. Ground down to a strength of 20 vehicles while serving with 40th Army. Broken up August–September 1941 and reorganised as 131st and 133rd Tank Battalions.
11th Tank Division — with 2nd Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
12th Tank Division — with 8th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
13th Tank Division — with 5th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
14th Tank Division — with 7th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
15th Tank Division — with 16th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
16th Tank Division — with 2nd Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
17th Tank Division — with 5th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
18th Tank Division — with 7th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
19th Tank Division — with 22nd Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
20th Tank Division — with 9th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
21st Tank Division — with 10th Mechanized Corps in June 1941, with 201 or 217 tanks.[21] By 1 October 1941, part of 54th Army but had no tanks remaining.[22]
22nd Tank Division — with 14th Mechanized Corps in Jun 1941.
23rd Tank Division — with 12th Mechanized Corps in June 1941, disbanded by August 1941.
24th Tank Division — with 10th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
25th Tank Division — with 13th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
26th Tank Division — with 20th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
27th Tank Division — with 17th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
28th Tank Division — with 12th Mechanized Corps in June 1941. With 27th Army on 1 November 1941,[23] not listed in BSSA next month.
29th Tank Division — with 11th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
30th Tank Division — with 14th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
31st Tank Division — with 13th Mechanized Corps in June 1941. (in Shchuchyn area 1941)
32nd Tank Division — with 4th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
33rd Tank Division — with 11th Mechanized Corps, 3rd Army in Jun 1941.
34th Tank Division — with 8th Mechanized Corps in June 1941. On disbandment, elements reorganised as 16th Tank Brigade, which was later transferred bodily from the Red Army to the Polish Armed Forces in the East. See pl:16 Dnowsko-Łużycka Brygada Pancerna.
35th Tank Division — with 9th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
36th Tank Division — with 17th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
37th Tank Division — with 15th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
38th Tank Division — with 20th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
39th Tank Division — with 16th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
40th Tank Division — with 19th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
41st Tank Division — with 22nd Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
42nd Tank Division — with 21st Mechanized Corps in June 1941, disbanded by August 1941.
43rd Tank Division — with 19th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
44th Tank Division — with 18th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
45th Tank Division — with 24th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
46th Tank Division — with 21st Mechanized Corps in June 1941, disbanded by August 1941.
47th Tank Division — with 18th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
48th Tank Division — with 23rd Mechanized Corps in June 1941. Reorganised as 17th and 18th Tank Brigades in September 1941.
49th Tank Division — with 24th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
50th Tank Division — with 25th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
51st Tank Division — with 23rd Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
52nd Tank Division — with 26th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
53rd Tank Division — with 27th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
54th Tank Division — with 28th Mechanized Corps in June 1941.
55th Tank Division — with 25th Mechanized Corps in June 1941. Destroyed August 1941 at Chernigov and remnants became 8th and 14th Separate Tank Battalions.[24]
56th Tank Division — formed from two cavalry divisions. With 26th Mechanized Corps in June 1941. Formed the basis of 102nd Tank Division in mid-July 1941.
57th Tank Division — with Transbaikal Military District in June 1941.
58th Tank Division — with 30th Mechanized Corps in Far East in June 1941. Became 58th Tank Brigade on 31 December 1941.[25]
59th Tank Division — with 2nd Red Banner Army in Far East in Jun 1941.
60th Tank Division — with 30th Mechanized Corps in Far East in June 1941. Became 60th Tank Brigade on 20 January 1942.
61st Tank Division — with 17th Army, Transbaikal Military District in June 1941, and still there in May 1945.
101st Tank Division — formed after July 1941; with Western Front in August 1941.
102nd Tank Division — formed after July 1941 from 56th Tank Division.[26] With Reserve Front in August 1941. Became 144th Separate Tank Brigade on 10 September 1941. (ru:102-я танковая дивизия (СССР))
104th Tank Division — formed after July 1941 by re-designation of 9th Tank Division; with Western Front in August 1941.
105th Tank Division — formed after July 1941; with Reserve Front in August 1941.
107th Tank Division — formed after July 1941; with Western Front in August 1941. Became 107th Motor Rifle Division 16 September 1941, and, three months after that, 2nd Guards Motor Rifle Division on 12 January 1942.
108th Tank Division — formed after July 1941, possibly redesignation or split of 69th Mechanised Division.[27] with Reserve Front in August 1941. Becomes 108th Tank Brigade on 2 December 1941.
109th Tank Division — formed after July 1941; with Central Front in August 1941.
110th Tank Division — formed after July 1941; with Reserve Front in August 1941. On July 21, the commander of 30th Army disbanded the 110th Tank Division and distributed its battalions to his rifle divisions; the battalion reassigned to the 250th Rifle Division was supposed to consist of two companies, one of ten T-34s and one of ten BT of T-26 light tanks, plus a command tank.[28]
111th Tank Division — formed 15 July 1941. With the Transbaikal Front in May 1945. By November 1945 was at Nalaykh, Mongolia. Redesignated 4 March 1955 as 16th Tank Division, disbanded July 1957.[29]
112th Tank Division — formed in August 1941 in Primorsky Krai on the basis of 112th Tank Regiment, 239th Mechanised Division, 30th Mechanized Corps, under Colonel Andrei Getman. With the Far Eastern Front in Sept 1941. Becomes 112th Tank Brigade on 3 January 1942.

tl;dr

 

[Mikemikev]

Mike, go back and check out where those tank divisions were at the time. Seriously, you're just failing at this point. It would be best to just stop making a joke of yourself.

Also, read up on what a Mechanized army is while your on Wikipedia.

It's all well and good to copy and paste, it's another to understand it.

At least two thirds of them were forward deployed.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

tl;dr

Basically the sped is copy and pasting the list of tank divisions during a three year period without knowing where they were at the time because he's an idiot when it comes to History and research.

 

[Begemot]

At least two thirds of them were forward deployed.

Has Jamal 'forward deployed' in your mouth tonight?

 

[unclestryker]

So what area of ww2 are we debating today guys? Panzer Corp? Patton? The western front?

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

So what area of ww2 are we debating today guys? Panzer Corp? Patton? The western front?

If Mike were actually in the war, the only part he'd be familar with is the gas chamber.

 

[LocalFireDept]

Basically the sped is copy and pasting the list of tank divisions during a three year period without knowing where they were at the time because he's an idiot when it comes to History and research.

Regurgitation of information without understanding it? From our kobold? Unprecedented.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Regurgitation of information without understanding it? From our kobold? Unprecedented.

Damn moron wouldn't know anything about some of those divisions being at the Siege of Leningrad and other battles. Mike is the poster child as to why you should abort diseased fetuses.

 

[LocalFireDept]

So what area of ww2 are we debating today guys? Panzer Corp? Patton? The western front?

Personally I'd like to talk about the ouccpation and testing of biological weapons on unsuspecting civilians in Manchuria by the Japanese, as well as a the subsequent amnesty granted to war criminals in exchange for their research regarding that. But that wouldn't take the piss out of dearest Mikey.

Spoiler

and besides being fftopic: for this thread, it's arguably not exactly tied into WW2 depending on how you consider related events.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

If Mike needs help looking up actual resources for which divisions were where, look up razvertyvaniye when researching the Soviet Union.

 

[LocalFireDept]

If Mike needs help looking up actual resources

I think he needs more help understanding them, first.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

I think he needs more help understanding them, first.

I would help (because I'm really a nice guy and enjoy teaching people), but I'm afraid I don't have the patience for his form of autism. I think within the first hour of tutoring him I would try and drown him.

 

[YankeeTrader]

Wikipedia:

In early 1941 Stalin authorized the State Defense Plan 1941 (DP-41), which along with the Mobilization Plan 1941 (MP-41), called for the deployment of 186 divisions, as the first strategic echelon, in the four military districts[j] of the western Soviet Union that faced the Axis territories; and the deployment of another 51 divisions along the Dvina and Dnieper rivers as the second strategic echelon under Stavka control, which in the case of a German invasion was tasked to spearhead a Soviet counteroffensive along with the remaining forces of the first echelon.[121] But on 22 June 1941 the first echelon only contained 171 divisions,[k] numbering 2.6–2.9 million;[2][122][123] and the second strategic echelon contained 57 divisions that were still mobilizing, most of which were still seriously understrength.[124] The second echelon was undetected by German intelligence until days after the invasion commenced, in most cases only when the German ground forces bumped into them.[124]

Your citation doesn't specify how much of those divisions are armor.

 

[unclestryker]

Japanese WW2

Ole unit 731, that was the stuff of nightmares. For those what don't what I am talking unit 731 was a biological research unit that conducted experiments, on live people. Its reputation for that unit's cruelty was legendary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

Spoiler: This shit is graphic.

 

[MistressCaridad]

Basically the sped is copy and pasting the list of tank divisions during a three year period without knowing where they were at the time because he's an idiot when it comes to History and research.

He has no good working knowledge of ANYTHING so he is unable to sum things up in his own words or offer a clear and concise explanation. All that is left to him is to copy and paste information that someone else has compiled... but yet he will pompously dismiss other's no-frills, to the point perspectives as "oversimplified". In short, a gorilla could be taught to do what Mike has been doing. (Although as famously demonstrated by Koko the gorilla and her kitten, I think a gorilla has more capacity for compassion and genuine emotion than Mike does.)