Misogyny in the trans community

[Lemmingwise]

Because women by nature are sympathetic, feeling creatures. If someone "feels like a woman" then women are more likely to empathize. A man is more likely to say "but biology, medical science" until they're cut off by a bunch of women extremely angry that a shitlord dares oppose someone's FEELINGS with something that's harder for most women to understand. It's okay to be good at social skills, but social skills aren't the ones used to cut someone's dick off.

Well, I will leave that to others to argue, but in the minds of those who actually participated in it, it was hard fought. So, it surprises me that so many seem willing to cede everything they have gained to...men (in dresses or even not...)

I think a good part is also that women are more vulnerable to trends. Tranny stuff is being pushed so hard that a good section of people will bend over backwards to treat them like royalty.

I always think of this moment, where one threatens Ben Shapiro and everybody falls over themselves to defend that physical threat live on air:

It's stylish, it's hot, it's the current year and the current thing to talk about.

 

[JambledUpWords]

I should have worded what I said better in the OP. What I meant about casually discussing breasts and vaginas by trans women was referring to how they are treated as fetishes.

Another thing I’d like to add to this is within women’s organizations, clubs, and sports, trans women have been increasingly foreword about their presence. This is to a point of pushing out real women in favor of trans women. A notable example of this are people like Dr. McKinnon in women’s cycling and the trans woman that won a women’s wrestling match.

Finally, there are debates on motherhood, breastfeeding and pregnancy that have to include trans women in some discussions, even though it’s biologically impossible to do those things.

 

[Clop]

I disagree. It can probably depend where you live and where you are online though. I personally have dealt with a lot of trannies on and offline. I used to be really accepting of them. It was how my mom raised me. She had tranny friends and while I thought they were a bit strange, I accepted them without question. Same with ones I met online. Until only a few years ago when I started thinking about the whole thing more critically along with things getting out of hand with the SJW crap. My mom's friends that I was once fine with started to seem more and more off to me. The ones online started making me really uncomfortable with constant whining about cis women that eventually turned violent. Along with the fact that most trans women just feel so compelled to make awkward sexual comments constantly.

There was one that I was room mates with for a little while. It was a real experience but she wasn't much different from many others I'd interacted with. She was in her late 30's, had been out and on hormones for about 20 years, passed really well. She went for the "blonde bimbo slut" stereotype. Again with the constant sexual shit. Always making comments about "her pussy" (she was pre-op, mind you, and she'd even do this in public). But then also talking about how big her dick was. Loved going into graphic stories about her sexual encounters. She'd frequently come up behind me and press her giant fake tits into my back and make creepy comments. If you were dating anyone, you wanted to keep them away from her. Because she'd definitely start hitting on them. She, like many other trans women I'd been around, had no qualms with seeking out and fucking married/involved men. I suppose it's a validation thing. All that and she was really, really bitchy toward natural women. Always slinging insults. This is all just a small taste of what she was like. Bitch was fucking insane.

That coupled with the increasing hostility and sensitivity from other trannies was the last straw for me. I had a friend bitch me out and label me as a transphobe because I said the word tranny in reference to an MtF that worked for tips in drag shows (it's really common for MtFs to do drag shows). I didn't mean it any kind of way and it was what I'd seen others call themselves and even heard my mom use it affectionately. I didn't even know at the time it was derogatory at all. It didn't matter how supportive I'd been, how much I'd listened to them whine about how unfair it was not having periods, helping them practice their voice, comforting them when potential dates shot them down, dealing with bitching about how awful cis people were and being expected to not have any issues with that, none of it. I used a no no word and was now an evil transphobic piece of shit.

After that I stepped back and realized it was all horseshit and I was sick of walking on eggshells around these people while they felt comfortable being shitty to real women. It's all gotten so out of hand. Guys with a 5 o clock shadow can slap on a dress and go in women's bathrooms and locker rooms as long as they say they're a woman. They can join women's sports teams and ruin it for everyone else. And you better not have anything to say about it. They can say any shitty thing they want to about women but god help you if you make any comments about their fake tits or lack of a real vagina. They can be creepy and sexually aggressive but you better not rebuff them because then you're just a transphobic bigot.

It's all so tiring. It's like a black hole that will just drain everything you have and it's never enough. As you can tell, I have a lot of feelings about this topic lol.

Fucking hell. Only tranny I ever personally met was a cutesy guy who really loved knitting and plushies and was in a textile school.

This area's schools are also increasingly "progressive" and one of them decided to run quite a peculiar ad. It was for a branch that taught game-creating skills, but the ad just had a bald tranny with shaggy, long hair from the sides of his head, fucking terrifying make-up and gothic lolita style clothes, walking around the offices. The ad's message was paraphrased that "we accept everyone<3"

That place is also starting to run out of funding.

I think a good part is also that women are more vulnerable to trends. Tranny stuff is being pushed so hard that a good section of people will bend over backwards to treat them like royalty.

I always think of this moment, where one threatens Ben Shapiro and everybody falls over themselves to defend that physical threat live on air:

It's stylish, it's hot, it's the current year and the current thing to talk about.

Oh hell yes, can't forget the trend-setters. Especially when there's money in it. Nobody's handing out the tranny merch for free, and everything's mostly marketed to women because they're the main consumers.

 

[waffle]

I think the current push to normalize tranies is part of a conspiracy by whatever group of billionaires that Epstein was involved with (or a similar cabal) to attempt to normalize paedophilia by hitching it onto the gay rights movement.

That's what they are doing with tranies right now. They are pushing the envelope on purpose and attempting to prime the public with the social norm that if somebody belongs to sexual group that has been "historically discriminated against" or whatever then they can do whatever.the Fuck they want. And if a normie says anything? Well, they're a fucking bigot. That's why you aren't allowed to say anything about how the whole "lifestyle" is obviously just a bunch of failed men, autogynophiles, and efite gay dudes living out their "I'm a pretty princess, and everyone wuvs me for it (and/or wants to bang me because of it)" fantasy 24/7.

All this shit about how they're women on the inside, not wanting to date one makes you a bigot, and that they are perfectly normal except for when they are super specul and the rules don't apply? Yeah, in the places that sticks in 20 years its gonna be paedo is a sexual orientation and it isn't right to discriminate against those, If you don't let a pedo Fuck your kid then your a bigot, They'll probably start some shit about how they are different on the inside and can connect with the kid or tell that the kid likes it.

 

[Surf and TERF]

Another thing I’d like to add to this is within women’s organizations, clubs, and sports, trans women have been increasingly foreword about their presence. This is to a point of pushing out real women in favor of trans women. A notable example of this are people like Dr. McKinnon in women’s cycling and the trans woman that won a women’s wrestling match.

Trans rights wouldn’t feel so much like bullshit to me if they could just let the sports go. Trans women by nature have the body of a man. This is supposed to be the key part of their dilemma. So naturally, they shouldn’t insert themselves into physical competitions reserved for women.

This seems so obvious that I can’t help but assume the MtFs who do this are playing dumb for the sake of being assholes.

 

[remiem]

Men who identify as women are invited for cervical smear without a cervix

WOMEN who identify as male are not being offered vital routine breast screenings and cervical cancer checks in case it offends them. But men identifying as women will be invited for cervical smear …

www.thesun.co.uk

This article is stupid but-

The PHE booklet explains “who we invite for screening”.
Transpeople who register with their GP as their birth sex will be invited to screenings appropriate to that, but if they register as they gender they identify as they will not be.

What I get from this is that if you wanna be a dumbass and register with your doctor as something you aren't they're going to make you jump through hoops to get the proper screening. If troons want to be that stupid as to try and act like at a biological level they're been changed then they can be bottom of the pile for diseases they actually should be screened for and if that results in their death, tough tit. Should have properly registered with your GP for the treatments you're most likely to need.

I agree it's a shameless waste of time and needless bloating of services that some people actually need but some of this is medical professionals covering their asses for the torrent of death they know is going to come from idiots who're so obsessed with 'affirm my gender' that diseases that affirm their birthsex won't be looked for because they've gone so far as to claim to their doctor / the medical industry that they've completely changed sexes.

If you're born a woman but identify as a man and go so far as to say even your doctor must validate your precious identity only for you to die of cervical cancer you weren't screened because of it for that's karma for being a dumbass. Same goes for any man who identifies as female that dies of a male typical disease.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

Feminism is mostly bullshit, but ironically troons embody all the very worst traits of men that feminists bitch about.

The pathological narcissism, the misogyny, the indescriminate sexual gluttony, the constant threat of flying into a violent rage if you trigger their delicate tranny ego.

Troon woman-hating comes from jealousy. Even hideously ugly women don't get mistaken for men, but very, very few troons would fool even Stevie Wonder. I think there's also something to the radfem complaint that these men see femininity as something they can acquire and consume, and it enrages them when - even after all the pills, surgeries, and caked-on makeup - they still look like something out of a David Cronenberg movie rather than the UwU young Miss of their masturbatory fantasy.

 

[CheezzyMach]

Trans rights wouldn’t feel so much like bullshit to me if they could just let the sports go. Trans women by nature have the body of a man. This is supposed to be the key part of their dilemma. So naturally, they shouldn’t insert themselves into physical competitions reserved for women.

This seems so obvious that I can’t help but assume the MtFs who do this are playing dumb for the sake of being assholes.

And they left kids alone and were't saying that being a boy who likes fashion or a tomboy=GD.

 

[Bibendum]

Because women by nature are sympathetic, feeling creatures. If someone "feels like a woman" then women are more likely to empathize.

I get what you're trying to say, but these are exactly the sort of silly gender stereotypes that are being used to reinforce trans ideology. There are a ton of gender non-conforming women and girls out there who are being told that if they don't fit the ditzy, weepy ideal of womanhood, they're actually males trapped in the wrong bodies who should definitely start T and get their tits cut off as soon as possible. Similarly, swishy boys are being convinced to troon out. Gender norms only serve to limit behavioral expression, and now they're being used by the trans lobby in its blatant effort to recruit vulnerable GNC kids and teens.

I have never understood fully why women in general and liberal-leaning women in particular are as tolerant of troons as they are. The liberal ones trip over their own feet trying on the latest PC gender-speak whenever they get the chance; it is a top drawer virtue signal.

I think two things are really driving this: female socialization, and the willingness of the left to purge and utterly destroy anyone in its ranks that gets branded a "TERF." There's also been a tremendous effort to bury any information about autogynephila, and to sanitize the messaging surrounding motives for transition. Normies are constantly being told that being "trapped in the wrong body" is possible, that they should sympathize with the "gender dysphoric," and that transition is absolutely *never* motivated by paraphilic desire (for the AGP) or [internalized] homophobia (for the HSTS).

 

[Clop]

I get what you're trying to say, but these are exactly the sort of silly gender stereotypes that are being used to reinforce trans ideology. There are a ton of gender non-conforming women and girls out there who are being told that if they don't fit the ditzy, weepy ideal of womanhood, they're actually males trapped in the wrong bodies who should definitely start T and get their tits cut off as soon as possible. Similarly, swishy boys are being convinced to troon out. Gender norms only serve to limit behavioral expression, and now they're being used by the trans lobby in its blatant effort to recruit vulnerable GNC kids and teens.

Yeah, but stereotypes exist because they're often true. I know they're stereotypes, and I know some people don't fit the mold. I'm not stupid, I recognize that a 'butch woman' and a 'feminine guy' are types that exists, and they're fine as they are. It's exactly the T in the LGBT that wants to convince these people that they were born "wrong" and that's just fucking wrong to tell a person. It would do a world of good to stop pretending a stereotype exists to harm a person, it's just a baseline where most people come from.

I don't particularly believe in any gender norm in a modern society, that's just bullshit that shitty parents push on kids because they're scared of losing their genetic line. The norm is already to let people live the way they want.

 

[Freya]

ah. which vid was it where Contrapoints says HE knows he's a woman because of being penetrated, having a strong male arm around him and some other shit. (No really. he actually said that)
Then he said some of the most beautiful women in the world are men in dresses.

It's unbelievable he can get away with saying shit like that and even be applauded for it by the woke crowd.

 

[Bibendum]

It's unbelievable he can get away with saying shit like that and even be applauded for it by the woke crowd.

I've seen a ton of serious posts in the various troon subreddits where dudes claim HRT has made them lose their mathematical/spacial reasoning abilities or driving skills, or made them so clumsy they're constantly bumping their "tits" into walls. This is all met with a cheerful chorus of agreement and congratulation, "uwu so validating!" I am constantly amazed by the shit they will say and admit to publicly, and even more shocked and dismayed by the positive reaction it receives. I can only hope that their grossly misogynistic behavior continues to peak trans more people, and that the population of handmaidens will drastically decline as the truth about AGP becomes progressively harder to deny.

 

[Freya]

I've seen a ton of serious posts in the various troon subreddits where dudes claim HRT has made them lose their mathematical/spacial reasoning abilities or driving skills, or made them so clumsy they're constantly bumping their "tits" into walls. This is all met with a cheerful chorus of agreement and congratulation, "uwu so validating!" I am constantly amazed by the shit they will say and admit to publicly, and even more shocked and dismayed by the positive reaction it receives. I can only hope that their grossly misogynistic behavior continues to peak trans more people, and that the population of handmaidens will drastically decline as the truth about AGP becomes progressively harder to deny.

Bimbofication. I could've sworn Hontrapoints has said something similar to that.

I'm not sure what's going to happen. I hope that people will peak eventually, but don't expect much from the stupid sheep. After all, there was no uproar when old media ran stories about transing kids.

 

[Bibendum]

I'm not sure what's going to happen. I hope that people will peak eventually, but don't expect much from the stupid sheep. After all, there was no uproar when old media ran stories about transing kids.

Neither do I. On one hand, I'd like to believe that as more of these people experience the terrible consequences of transition (complications from invasive surgeries, infertility, severe sexual dysfunction), there will be a mass movement of regretful desisters bringing big civil suits against the therapeutic/surgical/pharmaceutical industries and perhaps even the parents of those who trooned out as minors. On the other hand, I know there will be enormous pressure on desisters to suffer in silence; they are already being treated like shit, ostracized by the trans community and viciously attacked as traitors to the cause. Trans kids will lead especially coddled lives as they progress through the university system, and will be rewarded so long as they continue to faithfully promote TRA ideology (see Jazz Jennings being admitted to Harvard for an effortless degree in Gender Studies). I think there's unfortunately a good chance we may see a wave of trans-regret suicides, which will of course be blamed on "transphobia." We'll just have to wait and see how this all ends -- I truly hope a strong desister movement is able to gain traction despite the inevitable efforts to shut it down, and that it eventually burns the trans recruitment cult to the ground.

 

[ロボ﹏§¤r﹏h¶rœ]

Why are the police stopping a 74-year-old tweeting about transgenderism?

Margaret Nelson is a 74-year-old woman who lives in a village in Suffolk. On Monday morning she was woken by a telephone call. It was an officer from Suffolk police. The officer wanted to speak to Mrs Nelson about her Twitter account and her blog.

 

[Jason Wynn]

Good enough reason to thin out their numbers. There's some lovely camps I can recommend we send them to in order to correct the problem.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

I think the current push to normalize tranies is part of a conspiracy by whatever group of billionaires that Epstein was involved with (or a similar cabal) to attempt to normalize paedophilia by hitching it onto the gay rights movement.

That's what they are doing with tranies right now. They are pushing the envelope on purpose and attempting to prime the public with the social norm that if somebody belongs to sexual group that has been "historically discriminated against" or whatever then they can do whatever.the Fuck they want. And if a normie says anything? Well, they're a fucking bigot. That's why you aren't allowed to say anything about how the whole "lifestyle" is obviously just a bunch of failed men, autogynophiles, and efite gay dudes living out their "I'm a pretty princess, and everyone wuvs me for it (and/or wants to bang me because of it)" fantasy 24/7.

All this shit about how they're women on the inside, not wanting to date one makes you a bigot, and that they are perfectly normal except for when they are super specul and the rules don't apply? Yeah, in the places that sticks in 20 years its gonna be paedo is a sexual orientation and it isn't right to discriminate against those, If you don't let a pedo Fuck your kid then your a bigot, They'll probably start some shit about how they are different on the inside and can connect with the kid or tell that the kid likes it.

It's sad how "well" this post has aged in just over a year...