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My friend, I am not autistic, but I am rapetistic AKA, DTR (Down to Rape).You're starting to come off as more autistic than the model train guy. If anything, I've got to applaud you.
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My friend, I am not autistic, but I am rapetistic AKA, DTR (Down to Rape).You're starting to come off as more autistic than the model train guy. If anything, I've got to applaud you.
There is overlap. Oh god is there overlap.Model train shit is true OG autism. Shame that autists nowadays are into furry porn and autogynephilia, cause there was something kinda special to this stuff.
This is a GAMES forum, you play train games not play with trains. Your post should read "I like to play games USING the Number 9: Revolution 3D - Ticket to Ride or the 9T2R for short"I like playing ticket to ride
There are ways that model trains could be made substantially cheaper, but due to the way this kind of industry works, it won't happen.I wonder how difficult it would be to put together a train layout with modular scenery pieces. This way, you could swap out the scenery with the pieces you made to change it whenever you wanted.
Part of the appeal with model/toy trains is the same with people who like building/crafting things. It is fun to have your own functional miniature world.
The problem though is that it is a hobby that has largely been taken over by boomers and the remaining Silent generation. This is not a cheap hobby by any means and many millennials and gen Z do not have the deep pockets to do a lot with this even if many of them admire the toy train sets of their parents and grandparents.
As an aside, I wish that model train makers would also have versions of those really bizarre armored trains that you saw during WWI and WWII.
The main driver of price I think, is the fact that many people buy these things as models to keep behind glass cases, not actually run, and the companies that make model train engines and cars often do so as limited runs to keep prices high by creating artificial scarcity.There are ways that model trains could be made substantially cheaper, but due to the way this kind of industry works, it won't happen.
HO smaller trains could now be battery powered and remote controlled. This would allow tracks to be cheaper. DCC would be much less complicated. People don't use trains long enough to run out of battery all the time, and there'd be recharging tracks. It'd be more kid friendly because there'd be little risk of shorting out the trains. O-scale might be able to use battery as well if the train was lightened enough. Extra batteries could be stowed in tenders, dummy units, or power cars.
I don't think the market is big enough to entice a disruptor to bring in something new, though.
It's not just model trains. The same idea can be applied to model airplanes, balsa kits, model cars, rc vehicles, ships and boats - anything transportation technology related. Why they tend to appeal to males the majority of the time is probably because of what they represent. All those mechanical beasts are the manifestation of harnessing the raw power of fire in combustion, and electricity and seeing it put to work to perform a function. There's a certain mechanical beauty in seeing all the tiny components come together to perform a function that would have otherwise been impossible using just human strength.Here is some food for thought...
Why is it that the vast majority of people interested in model trains and accessories at the shows I have been to are men and boys? Why are women relatively rare in this hobby? As traditionally-speaking, dollhouses and people have been marketed to girls and women, why has this not also carried over to toy trains and playing with miniature towns and settings? I just thought about it today and I could not come up with an answer.
(Although, if a girl or woman tried to get into this hobby now, she would probably be labeled "trans" by her peers and encouraged to troon out. Trannies are the worst perpetuators of gender stereotypes around.)
I am sure that there is an evolutionary psychology explanation for this, but would that also not apply to women as well? As women are physically weaker than men, how come this does not lead to even more of a psychological fascination with heavy machinery or fast-moving vehicles? It would seem like it would cause a drive to compensate for this aspect of female biology in terms of female strength differences as operating said machinery would serve as an "equalizer".It's not just model trains. The same idea can be applied to model airplanes, balsa kits, model cars, rc vehicles, ships and boats - anything transportation technology related. Why they tend to appeal to males the majority of the time is probably because of what they represent. All those mechanical beasts are the manifestation of harnessing the raw power of fire in combustion, and electricity and seeing it put to work to perform a function. There's a certain mechanical beauty in seeing all the tiny components come together to perform a function that would have otherwise been impossible using just human strength.
Basically, the thesis of this is power. Men like powerful things and cars, trains, airplanes, ships are manifestations of that power greater than what's humanly possible. Building small scaled down representations of those things is like a nod of appreciation to the real life thing.
You make a good point. I think women can be attracted to it, but most are probably not too keen on actually creating those machines, whether they're scale models or the real thing. Ultimately those machines are inventions that have to be constructed.I am sure that there is an evolutionary psychology explanation for this, but would that also not apply to women as well? As women are physically weaker than men, how come this does not lead to even more of a psychological fascination with heavy machinery or fast-moving vehicles? It would seem like it would cause a drive to compensate for this aspect of female biology in terms of female strength differences as operating said machinery would serve as an "equalizer".
Once I get back home and the basement is finished I'm looking into building a gaming table for Warhammer 40k that will have a train go through it. I'm looking into anything close to 28mm scale in terms of a chassis and motor and then 3d printing a train that should go well in that era. Even a 32mm scale one will do as I can make the shell of the train and carts to look 28mm and just claim it's a huge train. This way I can have the best of both worlds. A train setup and a miniature gaming table. I believe Walthers has what I want.
I find that while there are women who are interested in the machines themselves (the one Disney animator who had a literal full scale spur and locomotives in his backyard? His WIFE was the one who legally owned his big steam engine because SHE'S the one who bought it!), more often they seem interested in the scenery aspect. Would be an interesting study, suffice to say.You make a good point. I think women can be attracted to it, but most are probably not too keen on actually creating those machines, whether they're scale models or the real thing. Ultimately those machines are inventions that have to be constructed.
It's between O and HO scale. Hence why I just need the engine and 3d print the rest.Unfortunately, WH40K stuff appears to be roughly 1:60 scale, meaning the closest available mass produced stuff you'd be looking for is S scale as that's 1:64. The next biggest is double that (O scale, 1:32) and the next smallest would really be too small (HO/00 Scale, 1:87). And suffice to say, S scale isn't one of the more popular ones though it does have its niche market and available retail supplies. 3D printing also may help bolster available options.
That said, there is in-universe justification for giant-ass trains, though. In the Space Marine game with Titus, there's the one early level with the gargantuan freight train taken over by Orks that Titus and his two Battle Brothers use to get to the Titan Manufactorum. Some G scale flatcars would work excellently for this, though as an operational layout on a table you'd be limited to an oval at best. Though as static set pieces they could be cool on a Adeptus Mechanicus setting.
I find that while there are women who are interested in the machines themselves (the one Disney animator who had a literal full scale spur and locomotives in his backyard? His WIFE was the one who legally owned his big steam engine because SHE'S the one who bought it!), more often they seem interested in the scenery aspect. Would be an interesting study, suffice to say.