Modern Web Woes - I'm mad at the internet

Ryria said:
I use privacy frontends like Teddit, Invidious, and Nitter to view content without [Modern Webshits], however those sites hate the idea of less than 0.1% of all traffic to their sites coming from a privacy frontend so they often rate limit them. Also to quote a friend of mine: "take the chance to use [Non-Chromium Based Web Browser] and see how many sites break from Googleisms". If you choose to use anything that is not Chromium based or Firefox many sites break to varying extents.
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That's true, just use any WebKit browser like Safari and you'll see not even Youtube works properly.
 
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I thought that with all the data that Google collects on me, it would actually put it in good use, like providing me search results that I find useful. Like, I use my desktop for studying and oftenly search for articles in medical journals, but when I type in shit like "hypothyroidism", Google gives me bazzilion links to local clinics.

Okay, dumbfuck, you mined enough data on me to know that I'm a student, stop acting silly and adjust my search results correctly.

Seriously, why they need so much data on their users? When I see ads, it's always dumb shit that I don't need and would never consider buying, all shilled Internet pages don't interest me in the slightest and Youtube recommendation algoritm is a fucking joke. Almost makes me think that their claims that they use the data to customize ads is a lie and they actually sell it to Chinese or whatever.
 
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Maurice Caine said:
That's true, just use any WebKit browser like Safari and you'll see not even Youtube works properly.
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The fact this is the case is alarming: you'd expect Google/Apple/MS to be sucking each others' manchild cocks under the tables of each company meeting.

Don't get me started on WebComponents and polyfill either. In other words, "not Chrome? don't do feature detection, just lag them out with a bunch of JS that was also only tested on Chrome".

It really really is Internet Explorer 6 all over again.
 
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Why does it seem that ads always load better than videos on any video site?

I remember seeing this hot take explanation that they really don't, but they clearly do.

UselessPieceOfShit said:
When I see ads, it's always dumb shit that I don't need and would never consider buying, all shilled Internet pages don't interest me in the slightest and Youtube recommendation algoritm is a fucking joke.
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Ad blockers really are a good thing.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
Why does it seem that ads always load better than videos on any video site?

I remember seeing this hot take explanation that they really don't, but they clearly do.
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they're often on prioritised servers as an advertisement doesn't just need to be delivered to the few people requesting it, but everyone the service targets to receive that ad.
this also makes sense given that ads need to appear before the main video content, which in turn requires them to be on better hardware that can send the ad data as fast as possible.

also because the video site likely doesn't want to piss off the company they are advertising for by having their video in a lower quality or failing to load
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
In a better - and maybe impossible - world, such better servers would be used to stream the videos people want to see.
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that's a big logistics and financial problem; if you wanted faster streaming for all videos and not just ads, consider -
  • would this apply to Lil Jimmies GoAnimate videos with 5-10 views and 2 subscribers?
    • given the low volume of viewers, having his videos on a prioritised/high-end server means any benefit will basically be nothing.
    • perhaps this could be stopped with an application process? but that would fall into the traps of nepotism and bias.
    • alternatively subscriber/view counts could be used for prioritised servers, this could work but the best content isn't always the ones with the most viewers.
  • how could you justify such a large investment for a minor improvement to video streaming and delivery speed?
    • moreso in youtubes position, where they're only really being propped up by the rest of google and their advertisement empire.
    • smaller services could justify the investment, but keeping up that quality standard with platform growth and advancements in technology still results in a lot of money being spent on something that provides little monetary gain
  • what about ads? they still need to be displayed first and foremost, with a minimised risk of load failures or them lagging behind.
don't forget that video services tend to have millions of videos, most of which are only viewed by a couple of people, with the rest only being viewed for the first few weeks of their release.
a solution may to have newer videos placed onto the priority servers for the first week or so of their release, but that generates the problem of copying and transferring the file from the prioritised server to another, automatically, without error, after that week, for potentially hundreds of thousands of videos uploaded a day.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
Why does it seem that ads always load better than videos on any video site?
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The reverse of that, why does the embedded, and usually unrelated, talking heads video on many a news site load so fucking slow. I don't want to see or hear it, I can't disable it and I want to pause the playback before reading the article. At first it might appear as it isn't autoplay but it is, it's just slow to get going. It is so fucking tedious to sit there and wait 5, 7, maybe 10 seconds before it plays so it can be stopped and it can only be stopped once it is playing!
 
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Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
It is so fucking tedious to sit there and wait 5, 7, maybe 10 seconds before it plays so it can be stopped and it can only be stopped once it is playing!
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It's even worse when the X to close it is disabled for awhile, redirects to the advertiser, or is a feedback thing.

An ad blocker really is a friend.
 
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UselessPieceOfShit said:
Seriously, why they need so much data on their users?
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To sell it. They don't give a fuck if their service is even remotely helpful to you as long as you keep providing those sweet data points.

I'm currently at a point where, when I happen to stumble across a genuinely interesting website with lots of text and content, I start mirroring it locally because it's just that rare a treat I want to preserve. What is this fresh hell?
 
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AmpleApricots said:
I'm currently at a point where, when I happen to stumble across a genuinely interesting website with lots of text and content, I start mirroring it locally because it's just that rare a treat I want to preserve. What is this fresh hell?
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I met a guy who told me he didn't understand why I archive stuff. Later he was upset because "the greatest sexist joke of all time" was removed from a movie's stream version.
 
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Übertroon said:
So twitter is now unusable if you don't have an account. They've gone the instagram route where they'll prevent you from exploring too much without being logged in. I hate the modern internet. 4chan seems to be the last lurker friendly alternative
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If you're talking about having that log-in pop-up show up, IIRC you can just refresh the page and then close the thing without being sent to the previous page. If not that, then copying and pasting the current URL into a new tab also works. Stupid that this much needs to be done to avoid it though.
 
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If you're talking about having that log-in pop-up show up, IIRC you can just refresh the page and then close the thing without being sent to the previous page. If not that, then copying and pasting the current URL into a new tab also works. Stupid that this much needs to be done to avoid it though.
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No that's what I've been doing for months now, but the fuckers now keep giving me the log in pop up if I try to browse down more than four posts on an account, and if I refresh I'm back where I started
 
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Übertroon said:
No that's what I've been doing for months now, but the fuckers now keep giving me the log in pop up if I try to browse down more than four posts on an account, and if I refresh I'm back where I started
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Is Nitter affected by this? There could also be a uBlock Origin annoyances filter to handle it.
 
Übertroon said:
So twitter is now unusable if you don't have an account. They've gone the instagram route where they'll prevent you from exploring too much without being logged in. I hate the modern internet. 4chan seems to be the last lurker friendly alternative
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the modern lurker strat these days is to make a burner account with fake/temporary information; i've had some success with using 10 minute email services and having a dummy account for a while.
though eventually they'll start to pester you for mobile verification, at which point you abandon the burner account and move onto a new one. had this happen to a temporary gmail account where google decided to randomly ask me to add a phone number to the account to "verify that it was me", it did not let me continue without one.
 
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