Modern Web Woes - I'm mad at the internet

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I'm honestly surprised that the site did not enshittify sooner. Even as the pozweb truly set in around the mid-2010s to now, KYM continued to be straightforward and informative.
They did hold out for a shockingly long time, but like entropy it's only a matter of time until a website is ruined beyond recovery.

Seriously, the web is getting gayer and deader by the day, and this site is one of the few remaining holdouts.
 
EDIT CAUSE I JUST REMEMBERED SOME WEIRDLY PREVALENT SHIT AND I DON'T WANNA DOUBLE POST

So I think I ranted before about how now even official listings for stuff is basically the same schizobabble as bootleg listings ("great gift for children baby adult men women teen children cosplay!" word vomit shit) but I don't think I talked about the degeneration of promo photos in a similar manner. Most shit I look at online now just has badly photoshopped stock images of children or families JUST LIKE THE FUCKING SCAMMER AND KNOCKOFF LISTINGS HAVE HAD FOR YEARS NOW, AND IT'S BEEN LIKE THIS FOR LIKE 3 YEARS OR SO.

17 dollar transformers snap together figure kits? PHOTOSHOP EM OVER A BABY NEXT TO SOME BOOKS OR SOMETHING I DUNNO WE'LL TANK THE LAWSUITS WHEN SOMEONE GIVES THEM TO THEIR 1 YEAR OLD.
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It's not just toy or model kit stuff like this either. However with the toy/kit stuff, especially smaller ones, it's really egregious because you can't get a good read for the product in the sometimes unfortunate cases when they only use these stock images on some of the sites that carry them.

Visual design on product shots that don't just do 100% stock image people half job shit has been slowly creeping towards that look though too. For instance this 100 dollar branded kinda advanced charging bank that's got a vidya game promo print on the side of it's got a decent-ish real person photo, but you can still see they're not in the same area as the product, it seems to be using one of the isolated stock photos going off the lighting, and the wires are a little too big.
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I'm guessing this was to show the actual thing better but you already have stock images of it by itself, you could have easily just taken photos of it plugged it in somewhere unless this is like intended to be a magazine/mall poster ad thing or something in which case I kinda get it but god at least edit the photo a bit so the light source is consistent lmao.

TL;DR: SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG IN THE WORLD OF PRODUCT IMAGES.

I'm honestly surprised that the site did not enshittify sooner. Even as the pozweb truly set in around the mid-2010s to now, KYM continued to be straightforward and informative.
KYM was pozwebbed from day 1 and has been a personal enemy of mine forever but I agree this development is a surprise with how long it took.
 
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I may have to migrate a major software used all day every day by 600+ people at my company into the cloud, and this also entails moving the application's standalone executable interface into their web-based interface. While testing the web interface, I noticed that it is noticeably slower and buggier than the standalone interface and decided to do a little research via inspect element; the first thing I checked was a simple page with a title, basic table, and literally nothing else, and the body of the table consisted of SEVENTEEN nested divs, each row consisted of an additional four nested divs, and each cell consisted of another seven nested divs. If you have a table with 30 rows and 10 columns, you're looking at (at least) 17 + (30 * 4) + (30 * 10 * 7) for a total of TWO THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED THIRTY-SEVEN DIVS. How? Why? What could possibly be the fucking purpose of this? They didn't even use the table element, it was JUST divs with classes, of course completely unintelligible and generated by some kind of bundler. Unlike the standalone interface, the tables in the web-based interface are limited to showing up to 200 rows at a time - I think I understand why now.

I do not understand what the fucking aversion people have to plain HTML and CSS (and even JavaScript) is. Is it because nobody actually knows how the fucking Internet or basic web technologies work, so they rely on layered frameworks which, ironically, almost always end up creating a solution which is infinitely more obtuse and confusing than just doing DOM manipulation via vanilla HTML/CSS/JS? I'm so fucking sick of cloud-based bullshit and the amount of garbage overengineering present in every facet of modern web development, and I'm not even a purist! I really do understand a lot of the shortcuts people take; descriptive HTML elements can be a pain in the ass past a certain point, I don't trust all browsers to display everything in the same way so I prefer to be explicit with my CSS, the form API is not fleshed out enough to be practical for a lot of purposes, and vanilla JS' lack of straightforward reactivity is a fundamental flaw in its design - I get it. But every motherfucking thing being represented by a twelve divs, every webpage being half-SSR-half-CSR with at least one client-side JS framework and CSS framework? Somewhat of a side rant, but I'm convinced that people who bitch about CSS being difficult are genuinely just low IQ; I almost never have any issues with making it do exactly what I want, and I'm far from an expert on it.

People nowadays understand intuitively that they can be insanely lazy and sloppy with modern web dev because you can practically puke at JavaScript and there's a 99% chance it will do something without erroring out, plus modern hardware allows you to have horrifically inefficient code and layouts with minimal performance impact, but my God, there has to be a tipping point eventually. Nobody actually knowing what's going on under the hood (the "hood" still being an insanely high level of abstraction for web dev purposes) is eventually going to cause a serious fucking problem. The company selling us this product is worth billions, though, so I guess we're not at that point yet.
 
Somewhat of a side rant, but I'm convinced that people who bitch about CSS being difficult are genuinely just low IQ
My biggest gripe about the way CSS is used is how retarded everyone is being. The name is literally CASCADING Style Sheets, but like you said with the thousand divs, no one uses nesting, cascading or heiarchies because they have no idea what's happening in their code.
Something like this code:
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Would be divided into probably 20 something different classes, which is why we see retarded stuff like:
Code:
class="btn btn-margin btn-hover btn-link btn-blue"
for the simplest element. They simply don't understand how to structure CSS hierarchies. Add onto that more frameworks where an otherwise legible class is now named 213523kihefb123 because it's autogenerated so you have a dozen classes with no clear purposes on a single tag.
 
Who is this retard, making up shit?
My bet is they've spliced together unrelated parts of a conversation. never trust anything from tik tok, especially when it's got such obvious jump cuts, and especially when it's posted by this "nobueno" faggot. All he does is shit up threads with schizo bullshit.
 
I do not understand what the fucking aversion people have to plain HTML and CSS (and even JavaScript) is. Is it because nobody actually knows how the fucking Internet or basic web technologies work, so they rely on layered frameworks which, ironically, almost always end up creating a solution which is infinitely more obtuse and confusing than just doing DOM manipulation via vanilla HTML/CSS/JS?
Why plain when I have 1337 h4x0r js skills bro?

Why make a simple table when you can have your webpage require 4gb ram to load a basic header?

Cause I use fancy react in rust and load up 300 bloated and unnecessary libraries!
 
My bet is they've spliced together unrelated parts of a conversation. never trust anything from tik tok, especially when it's got such obvious jump cuts, and especially when it's posted by this "nobueno" faggot. All he does is shit up threads with schizo bullshit.
Who is this retard, making up shit?
"Apple introduced ChatGPT integration with Apple Intelligence in iOS 18.2 to expand the iPhone's AI capabilities in several ways. When enabled, Siri can leverage ChatGPT for complex queries about photos and documents, and the integration also extends to Writing Tools for text and image generation."
https://www.macrumors.com/2025/05/15/siri-on-your-iphone-just-got-a-chatgpt-boost/

Not too much of a stretch that Apple will implement an AI Recall feature like Microsoft tried doing a year ago.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...ure-will-record-everything-you-do-on-your-pc/
 
This is less Internet based, but is more influenced BY the current state of the Internet. The fact that shitty intrusive ads are inescapable, even with adblock, because they now show up on TV, radio, and every non-Internet place with a screen or audio feed now. There's no variety either it's always the same fucking ads on loop. People were pissed abotu the grubhub/kroger dance ones a few years back but that's nothing compared to the fucking current one that's just a really bad "quirky" skit that starts with the fucking "MAKE IT RAIN GIRL MAKE IIT-THUMP THUMP" shit. EVERY FUCKING PLACE that an ad is present I hear that fucking thing. I've seen the morgan freeman TTS scam ads show up too, I fucking LOVE hearing "SCAN THE QR CODE NOW" FIVE TIMES IN A SETTING WHERE YOU LITERALLY CANNOT SEE ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S NOT A FUCKING TV SCREEN. EVERYTHINGS CENSORED FOR ADVERTISERS BTUT HEN ADVERTISERS JUST PROMOTE ACTUAL JEET SCAMS USING BAD TTS CELEBRITY VOICES.
 
People were pissed abotu the grubhub/kroger dance ones a few years back but that's nothing compared to the fucking current one that's just a really bad "quirky" skit that starts with the fucking "MAKE IT RAIN GIRL MAKE IIT-THUMP THUMP" shit.
i have not seen this ad but i at least know the song it's referencing
 
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Is there anything more cursed than search that doesn't actually give you what you ask for and just gives you what it guesses you want or whatever? It could have been so simple. Just base a search off what is actually typed in the request. BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I'm being forced to use this website and its straightup completely ignoring my keywords. Whoever designed this site and whoever came up with this shitty search 2.0 concept need to be pitched into a shark lagoon.
 
Is there anything more cursed than search that doesn't actually give you what you ask for and just gives you what it guesses you want or whatever? It could have been so simple. Just base a search off what is actually typed in the request. BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I'm being forced to use this website and its straightup completely ignoring my keywords. Whoever designed this site and whoever came up with this shitty search 2.0 concept need to be pitched into a shark lagoon.
When trying to find old examples of 2000s era yt memes to show today I could only find recent uploads or like 15 year old uploads of those music to image edit videos people do sometimes, but not the clip they're making memes about. And then like 100 infinity scrolling unrelated results from unrelated channels with one or 2 vaguely related tags. Search is genuinely hell in 2025. No I'm not looking for a dating show because I typed in "desire" when looking up a video title!
 
The fact that shitty intrusive ads are inescapable, even with adblock, because they now show up on TV, radio, and every non-Internet place with a screen or audio feed now.
Gas station screens, billboards, sports stadiums, streaming services, digital game stores, movie theaters, operating systems, start menu, new browser tab. Anything that can play a video or audio advertisement will have one eventually. Impossible to skip, auto-play, full volume, flashing lights. We're at a point where every moment of your life is saturated with advertisements.
 
The pace of websites pointlessly updating what worked fine before continues to seemingly accelerate. On older toaster system an email site is nonfunctional with "unsupported browser" (an older version of Firefox that GMail still works on even with JavaScript). I can't get past that one entering my username part (password entry does not show up).

We're at a point where every moment of your life is saturated with advertisements.
>inb4 they insert ads into dreams via gamma radiation like in Futurama
 
I hate this "ctrl + scroll to zoom" nonsense for maps on websites. Half the time it just ends up zooming in/out the webpage itself instead of the map. Needing to hold ctrl is a fairly recent development and it makes no sense. Go onto Google Maps itself and you can scroll normally, but if it's embedded on another site, suddenly it doesn't work, even though it used to just a few years ago.

Why does everything have to continually be made worse and less useable?
 
I hate this "ctrl + scroll to zoom" nonsense for maps on websites. Half the time it just ends up zooming in/out the webpage itself instead of the map. Needing to hold ctrl is a fairly recent development and it makes no sense. Go onto Google Maps itself and you can scroll normally, but if it's embedded on another site, suddenly it doesn't work, even though it used to just a few years ago.

Why does everything have to continually be made worse and less useable?
It's so that it doesn't steal the focus scrolling down the page, with obvious consequences if it doesn't catch it properly zooming the page instead of the iframe. Developers can change that with just a setting, using "greedy" on "gestureHandling", and it should be trivial to made an userscript for it too. What is more annoying is the "use two fingers to move map" on mobile, fucking retarded, not unlike pretty much anything changed in Maps the past 10 years.
 
Is this how they're gonna make people hate non-electric cars?
A lot of car chargers have screens, though ads are probably less effective there because nobody is going to stand around for the half hour it takes to charge. They're also already putting ads on the giant control screens in newer electrics (well, a lot of new cars, but electrics are the biggest offenders for those things).
 
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