Modern Web Woes - I'm mad at the internet

[Jargainbargain]

Nowadays, hate how bland everything is, which has probably been repeated a million times in this thread.
I long for the days when the web was bright and colorful and midi's and imbedded mp3 chiptune rips from runescape scorched your ears.
I know neocities exist, and I even have a shitty html site on there without css, but usually its just troon shit nowadays and whores who don't want to use link tree for their onlyfans promotions. There's obviously gems in the piles of coal, but it only somewhat hits that itch of scrolling through geocities back in the aughts. Sitting at the family computer and having to hide the screen when a woman in a bikini gif popped up on a site, (or if you were like me you even browsed black butler forums or shrines when it came out and had to hide sebastion x cecil stuff (not the porn shit)) even if it was 32x32 pixels.
Nowadays, you log on to your main 4 sites, boot up discord, and sit at the computer watching youtube and listening to spotify.
There's no more want for adventure in most people, so it's difficult to find said adventure.
The surf that we used to ride, its gone now. The waves have settled into monotony, just the ebb and flow of the tides. There's no more saddling up the pony (the old windows xp pc) and going off on an adventure through the wacky world of "random people's webpages and bird blogs" there's just "here's some twitter porn. hey look another politician did a thing. here's a recommended video that literally has nothing to do with anything you've ever watched before."

I may be rambling nostalgia, but I merely miss the old days of the w.ild w.ild w.eb.

 

[Hakase Shinonome]

Nowadays, you log on to your main 4 sites

You're on KW, so you're already breaking the norm.

"here's some twitter porn. hey look another politician did a thing. here's a recommended video that literally has nothing to do with anything you've ever watched before."

I know you'll probably find this utterly stupid but you can choose to not do those things. Don't use Twitter (easy), don't look into politics (slightly harder), don't just click the nearest available recommended video (probably the most difficult). You can still experience that discovery experience by looking things up on YouTube rather than clicking the recommendations. Try clicking the recommendations that have less than stellar views. I've discovered some really nice channels using it that barely break 5k subscribers and less than 1k views per video.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Nowadays, hate how bland everything is, which has probably been repeated a million times in this thread.

Even something like the original Macintosh OS was somehow more interesting than the Current Year "smartphone" interface.

And that 40 year old OS runs at around standard definition in binary monochrome (each pixel can only be black or white).

(time in the screenshot is in UTC)​

 

[Jargainbargain]

You're on KW, so you're already breaking the norm.

KW is my 4th site. Gotta get my juicy daily gossip somewhere where ads won't show up every second.

I know you'll probably find this utterly stupid but you can choose to not do those things.

True, I normally stay away from those major social medias and such now. When I used to, that stuff was the norm even when I curated my algorithm just to show me fandom stuff I was into. The moment you like a piece of artwork, you start getting porn and shit.
"If you don't like it, don't click it," was an old adage my dad used to tell me when teaching kids internet safety was a thing parents actually did.

Try clicking the recommendations that have less than stellar views. I've discovered some really nice channels using it that barely break 5k subscribers and less than 1k views per video.

Have been doing this recently, and even discovered some bands I like now, that searching for through the search bar literally doesn't appear.

https://youtu.be/xVkgGR3Ud7U?si=BbE-JDqG2BK7mYWA

Song/band in question (68 views is wild)

Even something like the original Macintosh OS was somehow more interesting than the Current Year

Surprising what pixelated graphics could provide in the days of yore versus the flat colors of now. Even if they put a gloss or slightly opaque filter over something, its a lot less interesting than grid based pixel graphics on a curved screen.

 

[Kiwifarmsname]

Nowadays, hate how bland everything is, which has probably been repeated a million times in this thread.
I long for the days when the web was bright and colorful and midi's and imbedded mp3 chiptune rips from runescape scorched your ears.
I know neocities exist, and I even have a shitty html site on there without css, but usually its just troon shit nowadays and whores who don't want to use link tree for their onlyfans promotions. There's obviously gems in the piles of coal, but it only somewhat hits that itch of scrolling through geocities back in the aughts. Sitting at the family computer and having to hide the screen when a woman in a bikini gif popped up on a site, (or if you were like me you even browsed black butler forums or shrines when it came out and had to hide sebastion x cecil stuff (not the porn shit)) even if it was 32x32 pixels.
Nowadays, you log on to your main 4 sites, boot up discord, and sit at the computer watching youtube and listening to spotify.
There's no more want for adventure in most people, so it's difficult to find said adventure.
The surf that we used to ride, its gone now. The waves have settled into monotony, just the ebb and flow of the tides. There's no more saddling up the pony (the old windows xp pc) and going off on an adventure through the wacky world of "random people's webpages and bird blogs" there's just "here's some twitter porn. hey look another politician did a thing. here's a recommended video that literally has nothing to do with anything you've ever watched before."

I may be rambling nostalgia, but I merely miss the old days of the w.ild w.ild w.eb.

I actually like the look of Windows 11 and Liquid Glass.

 

[Jargainbargain]

I actually like the look of Windows 11 and Liquid Glass.

It's an alright look, it simplifies everything quite well, just doesn't have a large appeal to me and a couple oldheads i know. It sort of reminds me of frutiger, but it's just not as bright and flashy.

 

[Hakase Shinonome]

I actually like the look of Windows 11 and Liquid Glass.

No need to spell out your retardation on a public form.

 

[Kiwifarmsname]

It's an alright look, it simplifies everything quite well, just doesn't have a large appeal to me and a couple oldheads i know. It sort of reminds me of frutiger, but it's just not as bright and flashy.

For what it's worth the look of Windows 11 reminds me of XP in some ways but it's still worse. If it was more competent in terms of function it might honestly be one of my favorites.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

As if Pinterest wasn't annoying enough, now there's this "sign in" box that blocks the view, and which can't be closed.

 

[Instant_Pot_User]

If it was more competent

it might honestly be one of my favorites.

That describes everything Microsoft after SAArtya Nutella became CEO. He killed the windows phone, hired a bunch of jeetlings, and raped windows (but not the UI designers too much!)

 

[ToroidalBoat]

box that blocks the view

Oh yeah, and it's such Current Year bullshit to have some popup in the same window as the site that blocks the view, asking you to do some bullshit. Especially if it can not be closed. Bullshit like "please sign in to continue" or "sign in with Google" or "please disable ad blocker" or "please subscribe to premium to unlock this content"... FFS.

Is there a custom uBlock filter to bypass that bullshit?

 

[Hentai-Semitism]

Can someone help me out with this horseshit? MobyGames recently introduced an age gate that's designed to make you sign up because now it's the EU that wants your data, not just the US. Just look at that.

Sure, I COULD register, but I don't want to. My question is: where is this information stored? Can I edit a cookie and make it read-only or something?

 

[Fraygorryt The Wise]

Can someone help me out with this horseshit? MobyGames recently introduced an age gate that's designed to make you sign up because now it's the EU that wants your data, not just the US. Just look at that.

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Sure, I COULD register, but I don't want to. My question is: where is this information stored? Can I edit a cookie and make it read-only or something?

It's stored on the server-side session data. All your client has is the session ID cookie, which eventually expires.
Submitting the age gate form sends a POST request to https://www.mobygames.com/ajax/age-gate with the form data: `year=<year>&month=<month>&day=<day>&duration=<transient/session>`. You'd have to make a user script to handle an AJAX call for you to do this automatically since the server will just give you a new session if you try to use one that has already expired or don't have one.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Are there any online free email services that do not require JavaShit to work? Seems they are all morphing into "smartphone" "apps" that need the latest browser to even run. Now GMail won't load emails on an older system I use (and runs like ass anyway), and Yahoo mail doesn't even work at all (it is just a blank white screen which is bullshit).

 

[Hentai-Semitism]

It's stored on the server-side session data. All your client has is the session ID cookie, which eventually expires.
Submitting the age gate form sends a POST request to https://www.mobygames.com/ajax/age-gate with the form data: `year=<year>&month=<month>&day=<day>&duration=<transient/session>`. You'd have to make a user script to handle an AJAX call for you to do this automatically since the server will just give you a new session if you try to use one that has already expired or don't have one.

Thanks. What a stupid, unnecessary hassle.

 

[stares at error messages]

>be ToroidalBoat
>see image in search results
>pic is all pixelated
>the real pic is over on "Facebook"
>go to crapsite
>"See more on Facebook" login popup blocks the view
>close it
>the image is not at the top
>must scroll down through endless other stuff to see it
>scrolling down and down
>"See more on Facebook" login popup blocks the view
>no way to close it this time
>never got to see the pic

FFS

If it's on Facebook it might as well have been posted to a paper shredder.

 

[stares at error messages]

Even something like the original Macintosh OS was somehow more interesting than the Current Year "smartphone" interface.

And that 40 year old OS runs at around standard definition in binary monochrome (each pixel can only be black or white).

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(time in the screenshot is in UTC)​

I've said this before. All the Metro UI designs are part of an psychological engineering effort to make people forget real physical objects used to do what computers and smart phones do. You used to have a separate calculator appliance, not just a smart phone app. If the phone app doesn't try to have faux depth on the buttons, then you not being subliminally prompted to think, "this is a real button like on a physical device." They want everything that the computer and smart phone does to be the only embodiment of that ability. The companies and engineers pushing this want you to believe that there was never a physical device that ever did that and that only a smart phone can and ever did have that ability. Young people being given smart phone first instead of physical calculators will never have the frame of reference that a physical device separate from the phone ever existed. When they want to use a calculator their first thought will be, "I need to get my phone out to use the calculator." The product of this psychological engineering effort is to make people more dependent on their phones into the future and shift the public away from the concept of having separate appliances for different tasks. In the future people will be more attached to their phones because it will be unthinkable that you could use any other appliance for any task completed with a phone.

The save icon is MS Word is still a floppy disk because children growing up now only ever use smart phones and don’t use desktop programs or desktop or laptop computers. Likewise, their frame of reference is set by smart phones and tablets and many will never experience a non mobile computer before they are school age. In the next generation, non mobile computers using desktop operating systems will be exclusive to industry. There will be no home users of laptops and desktops. Laptops and desktops will become only used for development purposes and become too expensive for home users. Mobile development will be still be conducted on non mobile computers owned by industry. Developing your own apps on your own phone or tablet will be an unpopular niche or made illegal. Software will be written by strangers who have never spoken to any end user in their entire life. The software they are allowed to write is exclusively used by people living far away in a different 15-minute-camps and the software used for development is not self made either, but also made in other 15-minute-camps. Other countries with different laws allowing the use of self-made software will never be allowed in development because in could contaminant workers with the idea that software and the software that creates software can both be made on the same machine. Workers developing software will be universally told that their tools for development are made by AI that is too expensive and impractical to have at the firm where they work. Software development will be dumbed down so that pointers and system-level programming is all hidden away and done by workers in other countries. The work done in other countries will be credited to the end developers in 15-minute-camps as being written by AI. What will pass for software development in the future will be dragging a bunch of blocks around like in MIT Scratch. The development environment will be hard coded to prevent certain algorithms from being implemented any non pre-approved embodiments of design will fail to compile.


You thought it was best and easiest “to go along to get along”. You are have damned future generations and the world with your actions. There is no mercy to be had for you and your progeny for you are not deserving of it.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I've said this before. All the Metro UI designs are part of an psychological engineering effort to make people forget real physical objects used to do what computers and smart phones do.

What I really don't want to happen in the future is "smartphones" -- also maybe later brain-computer interfaces -- replacing all else.

Could smartphones and tablets replace all media they could replace, reducing the replaced to a novelty?

 

[Zeftax]

I don't think it will be illegal to make your own software, but I agree with a lot of the rest. People who make their own software with uncorroded tools will be seen as weirdos, a lot of people today don't even know what free software is, this trend will continue. IMO we will see people take pride in using SAAS, same as some do nowadays in using overpriced iphones - you will be seen as a poor if you value your freedom, a terrorist or a pedophile (unless MAPs get acceptance...) if you don't submit to chat control and a sentimental old fart weirdo if your computer is capable of running non-trivial software locally and without government spyware (this may actually be made illegal, your ISP will cryptographically check if you have mandatory government spyware installed whenever you access the internet (to prevent CSAM and terrorism and save kittens) and tattle on you to the government, they will do home raids on these "problem users" and may place a fine on you for any non-infected device and forcefully infect it).

 

[FloydsFeedandSeed]

You want to find a at best mildly popular video from 10 years ago? Good luck buddy, your search results will only be things tangentially related to what you searched for

The only way around it is to add before:2016 (or whatever year) in your search. But hell, even that's being enshittified now, before it would never show anything after your selected year, now it's starting to add newer results. I did a test just now it added only one from a few days ago at least, but other times I've done it, it's barely worked.