Most Tragic Troon-outs from Gigachads and Stacies - People with actual good looks that throw it away for the Goon.

[Ginger & Bread = Mischief]

Young ladies with any sort of masculine virtue would be too independent to fall for this zippertit foolishness.

I don't know. I don't really think that has anything to do with it or you'd see less of the other kind also.

I would love to go back into academia and study this stuff. Maybe even do some stuff on distribution (because I swear to God this stuff is more prominent in the suburbs). Unfortunately, I live in a woke hellscape. I could handle being hated, but I don’t think I can handle funding my own research. Alas. Alack.

I think it's probably more prominent when you don't have things to do in a day, like when you're a NEET. I suppose you have more time for everything, which is more time for masturbation, and then we all know where that leads.

I could see a dude with a disorder of sexual development having troon-like pathology and self-medicating with testosterone supplements. My issue is that I don’t think most troons are like this, and even the ones who are (ex. Pad Gardner) are 100% male. They want to have these disorders because they think it makes them “not-men” (their definition of woman), whereas the hypothetical Kleinfelter’s gymrat does not.

Rather than having intersex disorders, most trannies are genetically normal and lie about being intersex. Look at Tommy Tooter. Or a paper called Pretence of a Paradox. Troons love pretending they have something wrong with their balls because they think it puts them into some middle-ground between man and woman. Except they’re all men and all so-called intersex people have binary sexes as well. Like with womanhood itself, troons emulate things without understanding them because they’re stupid and pornsick. Basically, you’re flattering these fucks.

Yeah you're definitely right that they want to use it as a fallback hatch or some form of post rationalization where they just say "Oh, I'm not AGP. It's absolutely not a fetish. It's because I have this sexual development disorder and I was actually a woman all along." Honestly it kinda upsets me seeing people using Klinefelter's as an excuse to troon out because it's kinda implying that they're not real men, which would suck if I was a man with Klinefelter's. I mean they have a higher chance of developing gyno, smaller testes, lower testestorone, autism, etc. But that doesn't make them women. It just makes them a man with a genetic disorder who needs help and I hate the idea of someone trying to groom a guy like that for something out of their control. In an ideal world they'd get the actual help they need instead of trooning out.

 

[Snack Cracker]

I know I’ve said this somewhere on KF before, but I’m best friends with an XXY Klinefelter’s man.

He’s a man, he identifies as a man because that’s what he is, but he’s a man with a medical disorder that needs testosterone replacements.

Only one time has he considered trooning, but he was actively in psychosis at the time (because a lot of XXY males have extensive mental illness).
And it wasn’t because he felt like a lady, he was just upset about his fat distribution and gynecomastia and wondered if it would be easier.

Luckily telling him he wasn’t a bad looking man but would be a fucking ugly woman that would never pass snapped him out of it, but he didn’t find out he was XXY until late teens.

They’re still men unquestionably, just crazy men with bitch tits and weird looking hips and thighs.
And yeah I guess he would fit into that very tall characteristic too, but with the kyphosis hump he’s lost some height.
They have problems with osteoporosis and spinal deformities most of the time.

 

[Ginger & Bread = Mischief]

because a lot of XXY males have extensive mental illness

Oh, really? I never knew. I thought it was limited to autism.

but he didn’t find out he was XXY until late teens.

Yeah often a lot of sufferers never find out until they try to have children, or they may live their entire life without knowing because it can present in a very mild manner.

 

[Dilatortron3000]

Which mosaicism is he talking about I wonder? Not that it matters because you literally require male chromosomes to have Klinefelters and honestly I hardly see how it is relevant at all outside of being an excuse.

XY/XXY mosaicism so either way hes a man

 

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No clue who this is, or even if it's real, but I can believe it.

 

[Ginger & Bread = Mischief]

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No clue who this is, or even if it's real, but I can believe it.

I wonder what happened during the period where she got fat.

 

[SmallKiwi]

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No clue who this is, or even if it's real, but I can believe it.

What the fuck is that hairstyle? Pooners are even uglier than trannies.

 

[fake farts]

somehow already going bald

That's just a high forehead. Women don't lose hair the same way men do.


And she was looking worse because she very obviously has an eating disorder. It's also why she looks so gross and gaunt now. She's obviously a woman who was diddled in Hollyweird, same as thousands of other women, and is trying to opt out of it by being "male". She just looks sad and unhealthy. Her eyes, in particular, have looked dead inside since trooning out.

 

[Twilight Twill*^]

shorten it to porn-to-troon pipeline

I like to call it: Goon-to-Troon pipeline.

 

[Margo Martindale]

There was a discussion on /fit/ a few months ago that said that steroid users were much more likely to troon out due to body dysphoria or something. I'm noooooticing a pattern here. Was gonna post some but I see they were already posted

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

this absolutely sent me, thanks

It's pretty funny irl, hard to keep a straight face watching this freak preen around showing off his rock. He actually semi "passes"- thus the comparison to Blaire White- but has enormous mitts with those long rectangular fingers you usually see on a stone mason or metal drummer.

He’s either (1) a gay man who likes to top and thinks fucking a bigger faggot than himself makes him not gay; (2) a bisexual man who likes to top and thinks fucking a bigger faggot than himself / a woman sometimes makes him not gay; (3) an autogynephile himself rearing up to troon out; or (4) some combination of the above.

KF consensus seems to be 3, and that's also the take of the few mutuals I have talked to about this guy irl. He has historically had a weakness for coomerism and getting sucked into the seedier side of geek culture. He was into all the really weird shit from Japan back in the 90s when only turboautists even knew about most PG-rated anime.

Also remembered- he has a real complex about failure in general, but especially in romance. A girl broke up with him in high school once and it wasn't even a particularly brutal breakup but he was basically suicidal, he was laying in the hallway sobbing like a baby and some coach had to come out and walk him to the office. I think maybe he decided it's somehow safer to stick to ex-men than try to understand how to get along with women.

 

[SomeSpook]

I like to call it: Goon-to-Troon pipeline.

Totally not a fetish guys.

 

[Aquarius]

a weakness for coomerism

Yep. Sounds like an autogynephile.

I think maybe he decided it's somehow safer to stick to ex-men than try to understand how to get along with women.

I know that the old psychoanalytic theory of homosexuality was that it was due to narcissism. The person cannot empathize or relate to the opposite sex; they’re too immature to handle difference. Now, I don’t think that’s true - I mention it because it conforms to what you’re saying.

Spoiler: Three Essays on the Theory of Sexuality (1905)

Homosexuality, on the other hand, is an outcome of the sexual instinct’s failure to separate itself from its early object-choice and establish the genital aim.

Basically… an unresolved attachment to the parent of the same sex during the phallic stage leads to a fixation on that same-sex parent, and later, with individuals of the same sex more broadly.

Spoiler: On Narcissism: An Introduction (1914)

Homosexuality, then, in its essence, is the result of a regression to an earlier phase of the sexual organization, the pregenital stage, where the sexual drive is still directed to the self.

Which basically says that homosexuality is a turning inward of the sexual instinct, where the individual becomes enamoured with their own image or an object resembling themselves. The individual cannot progress to a fully heterosexual object choice and from an immersion in self-love or self-identification.

Spoiler: Beyond the Pleasure Principle (1920)

A man who has never passed through the stage of normal sexual identification with his own sex will be incapable of recognizing the opposite sex as an object of desire.

Which is another way of saying that (male) homosexuality emerges due to a failure to fully separate from the mother or develop a proper sense of gender roles. One needs to understand and accept the inherent differences between the sexes.

Spoiler: Letters to Wilhelm Fleiss (1897)

The homosexual’s sexual object choice is a regression to an earlier stage of development, in which sexual aims were not yet directed outward, but remained tied to self-love.

He’s saying that homosexual attraction is a result of the libido regressing to a previous developmental stage where the sexual instinct remains fixated on an earlier, more narcissistic form of object-choice.

I remember that there were these lame infographics that populated imageboards like /r9k/ explaining why trannies were better than women. There was a lot of porn sick nonsense about anal being awesome, but one of the “pros” for the tranny was that they could empathize with how difficult being a man is. Basically, self-pitying, whiny, narcissistic coping.

I don’t think merely being a needy jerk with control issues is enough to change your sexual orientation. I think that people who are needy jerks come in all values on the Kinsey Scale (Kinsey himself being one of them, and a criminal to boot). However, I think that bisexual dudes are the ones who fall for this “prison gay” dogma, that “I’m attracted to femininity” or whatever cope they generate to deny being totally fucking gay.

If they were straight, they’d just chimp out like Elliot Rodger, and if they were gay they would have gone all Bob Berdella on some poor unsuspecting twink. My point is that these people suck and have personality pathology, but that intersects with unrelated (presumably?) aspects of their personality (like orientation).

And since you mentioned one Mister Robbie “Blaire” White twice… have you ever seen videos of his perma-fiancé? Does he give off a similar “vibe” to this dude you speak of?

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

And since you mentioned one Mister Robbie “Blaire” White twice… have you ever seen videos of his perma-fiancé? Does he give off a similar “vibe” to this dude you speak of?

hahahaha holy shit. I wasn't familiar with that guy but yeah that checks out. Though this guy has more overt "stuck in the mode of going to Bush era war protests" aesthetics and less of the "male pooner" look.

 

[FatMebius]

Just about all the pooners I've met IRL have been molestation victims. There's a certain "I was raped because I was a cute girl, so I'll make myself into a man" energy.

 

[Misogenes]

Just about all the pooners I've met IRL have been molestation victims. There's a certain "I was raped because I was a cute girl, so I'll make myself into a man" energy.

Happens to men, too, apparently. There was a tranny in a Discord server I was in (shocking, I know) and his alleged backstory was that he was (treated as?) a sex slave from early puberty until mid or late teens. Don't remember if he specified but I assume he was getting raped by one or more men.

Naturally, he decided to become a paid whore, take hormones, and chop off his balls as a result. Dude was weird and way too comfortable posting his nudes in the wrong NFSW channels, even after being reminded repeatedly that he was making people uncomfortable.

He was an interesting trainwreck, but ended up leaving the server after he had his testicles removed, so I'm not sure if he's still around or if the PReP meds or suicide got him. I'll always be haunted by his empty, soulless eyes in those photos, though.

 

[Ginger & Bread = Mischief]

Happens to men, too, apparently. There was a tranny in a Discord server I was in (shocking, I know) and his alleged backstory was that he was (treated as?) a sex slave from early puberty until mid or late teens. Don't remember if he specified but I assume he was getting raped by one or more men.

Naturally, he decided to become a paid whore, take hormones, and chop off his balls as a result. Dude was weird and way too comfortable posting his nudes in the wrong NFSW channels, even after being reminded repeatedly that he was making people uncomfortable.

He was an interesting trainwreck, but ended up leaving the server after he had his testicles removed, so I'm not sure if he's still around or if the PReP meds or suicide got him. I'll always be haunted by his empty, soulless eyes in those photos, though.

Hm, I think it's different for men. I think a pooner would do it because it would make them less attractive intentionally.

 

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

Which mosaicism is he talking about I wonder? Not that it matters because you literally require male chromosomes to have Klinefelters and honestly I hardly see how it is relevant at all outside of being an excuse.

Don't pay any mind to it. Troons love to claim they have various rare intersex conditions but they're almost always lying.

 

[Ginger & Bread = Mischief]

Don't pay any mind to it. Troons love to claim they have various rare intersex conditions but they're almost always lying.

Yeah but in this case it was just totally nonsensical to me since it's milder in mosaic cases.

 

[FatMebius]

What I have come to call the "Pooner Rape Fantasy" is a strange phenomena. Pooners, and also particularly masculine dykes, talk about being raped and their fears of being raped. Like Hannah Gadsby or that Droopy Dog-looking pooner that debated Ben Shapiro a few weeks back.

They keep going on about how scared they are of being raped or how they're worried guys will take advantage if people find out they've got a pussy. But, I dunno. It comes off as a fetish thing to me. Like, the one that debated Shapiro kept going into detail about being raped forcibly impregnated.

They're big and fat. I'm not a rapist, but I'd think the average rapist would want a target they could manipulate a bit easier? Plus it's such a woman-brained fear. Not to say men don't get raped, but men don't live in fear of it happening, outside of maybe prison. It's just an odd thing for someone who fancies themself a man to think about and comes off as a kink thing.