Most Tragic Troon-outs from Gigachads and Stacies - People with actual good looks that throw it away for the Goon.

[Ginger & Bread = Mischief]

What I have come to call the "Pooner Rape Fantasy" is a strange phenomena. Pooners, and also particularly masculine dykes, talk about being raped and their fears of being raped. Like Hannah Gadsby or that Droopy Dog-looking pooner that debated Ben Shapiro a few weeks back.

They keep going on about how scared they are of being raped or how they're worried guys will take advantage if people find out they've got a pussy. But, I dunno. It comes off as a fetish thing to me. Like, the one that debated Shapiro kept going into detail about being raped forcibly impregnated.

They're big and fat. I'm not a rapist, but I'd think the average rapist would want a target they could manipulate a bit easier? Plus it's such a woman-brained fear. Not to say men don't get raped, but men don't live in fear of it happening, outside of maybe prison. It's just an odd thing for someone who fancies themself a man to think about and comes off as a kink thing.

A lot of them will have been raped before pooning out.

 

[FatMebius]

A lot of them will have been raped before pooning out.

True, I even mentioned it earlier, but how many of them fetishize it is strange to me. There's even whole subreddits about pooners who get off on being raped and "misgendered".

 

[Ginger & Bread = Mischief]

True, I even mentioned it earlier, but how many of them fetishize it is strange to me. There's even whole subreddits about pooners who get off on being raped and "misgendered".

Ah, sorry, I didn't see.

 

[Surfin Terf]

What I have come to call the "Pooner Rape Fantasy" is a strange phenomena. Pooners, and also particularly masculine dykes, talk about being raped and their fears of being raped. Like Hannah Gadsby or that Droopy Dog-looking pooner that debated Ben Shapiro a few weeks back.

They keep going on about how scared they are of being raped or how they're worried guys will take advantage if people find out they've got a pussy. But, I dunno. It comes off as a fetish thing to me. Like, the one that debated Shapiro kept going into detail about being raped forcibly impregnated.

They're big and fat. I'm not a rapist, but I'd think the average rapist would want a target they could manipulate a bit easier? Plus it's such a woman-brained fear. Not to say men don't get raped, but men don't live in fear of it happening, outside of maybe prison. It's just an odd thing for someone who fancies themself a man to think about and comes off as a kink thing.

It's like how Andrea Dworkin claimed to have been gangraped in 1999. Even other radfems had to admit that she was too ugly for that to be realistic (obviously not in those words).

I don't believe most of these pooners or troons were actually sexually abused any more than I believe that they've always known that they were the opposite sex.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

It's like how Andrea Dworkin claimed to have been gangraped in 1999. Even other radfems had to admit that she was too ugly for that to be realistic (obviously not in those words).

I don't believe most of these pooners or troons were actually sexually abused any more than I believe that they've always known that they were the opposite sex.

I have a theory it might be a social communication disorder thing in some cases- not always full blown autism but something in that family. They have trouble reading normal sexual interest, even friendly interest, and have a heightened perception of such interactions as threats. Like how some autists interpret what most humans find to be pleasant social touch as grating.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Good looking people trooning out really proves that it's not HRT but fashion skills that make you pass.

Loser ahh retards thinking 2 years of hrt without learning how to lay foundation is gonna transform them into women.

 

[Misogenes]

Good looking people trooning out really proves that it's not HRT but fashion skills that make you pass.

Loser ahh retards thinking 2 years of hrt without learning how to lay foundation is gonna transform them into women.

Being proficient in the black arts of makeup and fashion won't magically change your sex, either, but I think "passing" is more being visually inoffensive as much as it is attempting to fool people with one's disguise.

I think most normies will play pretend if the troon or pooner looks like they're making an effort, but if they look more like a pedophile in drag, they'll be treated like one to the extent that cancel culture let's people get away with it.

 

[Izdaja Slika]

It's like how Andrea Dworkin claimed to have been gangraped in 1999. Even other radfems had to admit that she was too ugly for that to be realistic (obviously not in those words).

Feminists and their allies believed, and still believe, and enforced their belief on others, that rape has nothing do with 'sex' but it's about 'power'. They therefore have to pretend that some women are not more likely to be sexual targets than others. If you dare push back on this idea, you will be called a rape apologist and they will bring up an 80 year old woman who got raped or sexually assaulted, as if it somehow undermines the idea. Instead they reveal only that they think 80 year old women are sexually unappealing.

Andrea Dworkin also blames her putative gang rape for causing her crippling osteoarthritis in her knees. It takes the mind of a feminist to believe such a thing.

 

[FatMebius]

It's like how Andrea Dworkin claimed to have been gangraped in 1999. Even other radfems had to admit that she was too ugly for that to be realistic (obviously not in those words).

I don't believe most of these pooners or troons were actually sexually abused any more than I believe that they've always known that they were the opposite sex.

Yeah. Unless the average rapist has some wildly inverted idea of attraction, I'm just not buying it. A sweaty, 300 lb hambeast just seems like effort. Like, even an in-shape guy would struggle to toss her around. It's just not believable, which leads me back to the sexual fantasy thing. It's all that Handmaid's Tale sort of fantasy. Where certain rape fetishists/perpetual victims want to be in thar situation.

Good looking people trooning out really proves that it's not HRT but fashion skills that make you pass.

Loser ahh retards thinking 2 years of hrt without learning how to lay foundation is gonna transform them into women.

Fashion skills and how they carry themselves. Some can, at least maybe at a glance, look the part. But the mannerisms, plus things like height, always give 'em away.

 

[SnergenFlergen]

but I think "passing" is more being visually inoffensive as much as it is attempting to fool people with one's disguise.

'Passing' is entirely illusory. Most of the time, trannies only think they pass because they ventured out of their goon cave for 5 minutes and during that time nobody pointed at them and shouted "lmao you're a troon". This pays no mind to the fact that people are capable of having thoughts without vocalising all or even most of them. It likewise ignores the fact that the average person is quite conflict-averse and trannies are famous at this point for their public chimp-outs when being 'misgendered'. For something to count as them being 'clocked' in their mind, it has to be direct and verbal. Otherwise it effectively didn't happen. This is because they're all autistic and anyone who isn't them is nothing more than a videogame NPC in their eyes.

Most normal people just want to go about their day with the least amount of friction possible. Trannies are friction personified and none of them seem to realise this, but still chalk up their lack of being 'misgendered' as a win regardless.

No trannies pass, people just allow them to think they do. The best 'passing' tranny in the world probably gets clocked 50+ times a day without them even realizing it.

 

[and I must scream]

Feminists and their allies believed, and still believe, and enforced their belief on others, that rape has nothing do with 'sex' but it's about 'power'. They therefore have to pretend that some women are not more likely to be sexual targets than others. If you dare push back on this idea, you will be called a rape apologist and they will bring up an 80 year old woman who got raped or sexually assaulted, as if it somehow undermines the idea. Instead they reveal only that they think 80 year old women are sexually unappealing.

Well if 80 years old can be appealing to a man, why is an unattractive 300 pound women would not? And have you seen whores in real life? Many of them are ugly from being on heavy drugs for so long and have no teeth. Men still fuck them, and they even pay for it.

Plus, there is rape as a terror tactic, or an act or defilement. It happens at wars, for example. It's definitely not just sexual impulse.

There are definitely men who would rape any woman out there. Perhaps they prefer pretty women, but they would make do with an unattractive, old or fat ones if that's what they have at the moment. I don't know if Dworkin was gang raped, but it's not out if the relam of possibly at all.

Edit: I posted before I read @SnergenFlergen comment. 100% agree. It's always funny to read things like "I'm 35 and on HRT for 3 months and I pass". like are you kidding me? Just because nobody called you a man or sir doesn't mean they don't see you are a man. They just see you wear a dress and a party wig and have makeup on, so they understand you are a transwoman and act accordingly. You are a stranger to them and contrary to your belief that people are trying to harass them and hate-crimed you all the time, the average adult just wants to go above their days without starting a fight with some stranger they don't give a shit about. So they play along.

It's always amazing to me that they don't realize that, and then when someone slips and do something that reveals how they really see that trans woman, suddenly the delusion is broken and they are all like "is it possible that people don't really see me as a woman? Has everyone been lying all along? What is real I can't tell anymore OMG". It's sad to watch. Although the ones who are not delusional about it and know they don't pass are quite sad too.

 

[Paper Machete]

What I have come to call the "Pooner Rape Fantasy" is a strange phenomena. Pooners, and also particularly masculine dykes, talk about being raped and their fears of being raped. Like Hannah Gadsby or that Droopy Dog-looking pooner that debated Ben Shapiro a few weeks back.

They keep going on about how scared they are of being raped or how they're worried guys will take advantage if people find out they've got a pussy. But, I dunno. It comes off as a fetish thing to me. Like, the one that debated Shapiro kept going into detail about being raped forcibly impregnated.

They're big and fat. I'm not a rapist, but I'd think the average rapist would want a target they could manipulate a bit easier? Plus it's such a woman-brained fear. Not to say men don't get raped, but men don't live in fear of it happening, outside of maybe prison. It's just an odd thing for someone who fancies themself a man to think about and comes off as a kink thing.

It's part of the AGP and AAP fetish IMO. It's too rote a behavior. People need to stop seeing pooners as always poor victims and trooners as the ones that only do it for boner reasons. The motivations for either transing are actually pretty similar, if not identical, it's only their behaviors that may look different.

Rape fantasies are transgressive fantasies centered around the idea you're desirable enough people react on base instinct to the point they're willing to do something criminal. With women, there is the added element of lack of responsibility for your own desires, like being a coy flirt but with fucking.

(There are both troons and poons that have SA in their past that inform their decisions for transing. But I don't believe that's necessarily a specific type of trauma necessary so much as it's just trauma in general that can cause someone to want to take up a radically different identity.)

 

[Incecticyder]

Yeah. Unless the average rapist has some wildly inverted idea of attraction, I'm just not buying it. A sweaty, 300 lb hambeast just seems like effort. Like, even an in-shape guy would struggle to toss her around. It's just not believable, which leads me back to the sexual fantasy thing. It's all that Handmaid's Tale sort of fantasy. Where certain rape fetishists/perpetual victims want to be in thar situation.

What is the overlap of the women that claim they were raped but are too ugly and the women that enjoyed Handmaid's Tale, Twilight and 50 shades? It has to be huge.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

To me, this thread demonstrates that just like being gay, some of the people that become trannies clearly had no reason to other than something in their brain meat, the hard wiring, told them it was the right thing to do. You can see the same thing with some people that are gay, they are completely normal people or even above average people, have the world by the balls, and would have absolutely no reason to "choose" to be gay when they could just be hetero and just live a happy normal life, but they are gay, because of something in their hard wired brain meat.

These are the people I feel bad for, their life is basically on "hard mode" because their brain meat is wired differently (I want to say wrong, but we don't have the ability yet to prove that yet, give it 10 years) and it is made that much harder by the freaks that just decide to be "queer, nonbinary" for social points in certain circles. That is one of the major reasons I hate the AGP's and the freaks that choose to jump on what they see as a "social trend" for asspats and to use it as a way to powertrip and shit on people, it trivializes and makes life that much harder for the people that because of no fault of their own, are actually transsexuals and just want to live as normal a life as they have and not be totally fucking miserable. Fuck the AGP's, "trend followers", ass pat seekers, and degenerate assholes with a barbwire broom handle that choose to pretend to be trans because it makes the lives of actual transpeople that really do have a brain meat issue that much harder. When someone's life is set to "hard mode" through no fault of their own, the last fucking thing they need to deal with is freaks and assholes.

 

[Paper Machete]

To me, this thread demonstrates that just like being gay, some of the people that become trannies clearly had no reason to other than something in their brain meat, the hard wiring, told them it was the right thing to do. You can see the same thing with some people that are gay, they are completely normal people or even above average people, have the world by the balls, and would have absolutely no reason to "choose" to be gay when they could just be hetero and just live a happy normal life, but they are gay, because of something in their hard wired brain meat.

These are the people I feel bad for, their life is basically on "hard mode" because their brain meat is wired differently (I want to say wrong, but we don't have the ability yet to prove that yet, give it 10 years) and it is made that much harder by the freaks that just decide to be "queer, nonbinary" for social points in certain circles. That is one of the major reasons I hate the AGP's and the freaks that choose to jump on what they see as a "social trend" for asspats and to use it as a way to powertrip and shit on people, it trivializes and makes life that much harder for the people that because of no fault of their own, are actually transsexuals and just want to live as normal a life as they have and not be totally fucking miserable. Fuck the AGP's, "trend followers", ass pat seekers, and degenerate assholes with a barbwire broom handle that choose to pretend to be trans because it makes the lives of actual transpeople that really do have a brain meat issue that much harder. When someone's life is set to "hard mode" through no fault of their own, the last fucking thing they need to deal with is freaks and assholes.

There is no such thing as an actual transexual. It's something people latch on to for a myriad of reasons. There is the obvious fetishists. And then there are the small number of people who do it because they think they'll be more desirable as women and that it will allow them to opt in to the straight dating market. Just because someone may do it for reasons other than euphoria boners doesn't mean their reasons are somehow legit. They all get poisoned by the weird sex pestery anyway since that's who they hang out with and share ideas with at the end of the day.

I honestly find it difficult to think anyone who has been following stinkditch still is under the impression there is such a thing as true trans.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

There is no such thing as an actual transexual. It's something people latch on to for a myriad of reasons. There is the obvious fetishists. And then there are the small number of people who do it because they think they'll be more desirable as women and that it will allow them to opt in to the straight dating market. Just because someone may do it for reasons other than euphoria boners doesn't mean their reasons are somehow legit. They all get poisoned by the weird sex pestery anyway since that's who they hang out with and share ideas with at the end of the day.

I honestly find it difficult to think anyone who has been following stinkditch still is under the impression there is such a thing as true trans.

I have to disagree. Just like some gay people, there have always been trannies of one flavor or another recorded throughout history. Given what tended to happen to them in the past, such as literally being burned alive, it just doesn't scan that anyone would choose to be such a way if they could choose otherwise. As such, for some people I believe it is a brain meat/hard wiring issue, no different than the same type of people that are gay. I think this sub-group of "true" transexuals is a very small number of people, something like 0.001% of the population or likely less, but I do think they exist. They are so rare that it is unlikely most people would ever actually meet one of them.

These are the people that wouldn't show up on this forum, or anywhere else because they don't make a spectacle of themselves. They're no different than the gay people that you wouldn't know take it up the ass on a regular basis unless they actually told you. Other than that one major brain meat/hard wiring issue, they are 100% normal humans. Like I said, they are rare, just as rare as the gay people that are completely typical except for enjoying dick/munching rug. But, I have no doubt they exist.

Unfortunately at this point I think it is likely that they are actually a super-minority within their own minority at this point. For every 1000 performative trannies doing it for asspats and repression points, one of these people exists, and I think people should feel bad for them given that I guarantee that not a single one of them ever wanted freaks and degenerates to invade their space while they tried to go about their lives like normal humans. These people suddenly found themselves thrust into a culture war they never wanted by crazy assholes looking for the latest thing to latch on to.

 

[Paper Machete]

I have to disagree. Just like some gay people, there have always been trannies of one flavor or another recorded throughout history. Given what tended to happen to them in the past, such as literally being burned alive, it just doesn't scan that anyone would choose to be such a way if they could choose otherwise. As such, for some people I believe it is a brain meat/hard wiring issue, no different than the same type of people that are gay. I think this sub-group of "true" transexuals is a very small number of people, something like 0.001% of the population or likely less, but I do think they exist. They are so rare that it is unlikely most people would ever actually meet one of them.

These are the people that wouldn't show up on this forum, or anywhere else because they don't make a spectacle of themselves. They're no different than the gay people that you wouldn't know take it up the ass on a regular basis unless they actually told you. Other than that one major brain meat/hard wiring issue, they are 100% normal humans. Like I said, they are rare, just as rare as the gay people that are completely typical except for enjoying dick/munching rug. But, I have no doubt they exist.

They would not be 100% normal. Thinking you're actually the opposite sex or have the spirit brain juice of a womanly lady is by definition not normal. It's a delusional fantasy at its most benign. You could argue these not normal people are harmless but that isn't the same as being okay.

Trans as the modern phenomenon didn't exist in the past. No. It did not. You had crossdressers doing it for sex feels and people in pagan hoodoovoodoo religions and tribes that thought up some weird third category so they'd have something to do with their caveman fags.

It really isn't comparable to gays either. You can argue about sexuality being innate or not all day long but the fact some dudes suck each other off isn't really questionable. It's something they do, it's their reality. It's their choice who they shack up with. They aren't delulu like trannies. They like cock and man ass and that's just it.

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

What a depressing thread, so many young people irreversibly mutilating their bodies because they fried their brains with too much social media.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Anyone who has read this forum for any significant amount of time and is still coping* about TrooTrans is a person who is trying to figure out their own damage. It's the reddest of red flags. Stay off discord and watch your porn consumption.

*(and seething and probably soon to be dilating)

 

[Ginger & Bread = Mischief]

Other than that one major brain meat/hard wiring issue, they are 100% normal humans. Like I said, they are rare, just as rare as the gay people that are completely typical except for enjoying dick/munching rug. But, I have no doubt they exist.

I mean even if you are entirely the opposite gender stereotypically like in personality and interests there's nothing wrong with that and having a male body. It's kinda hard for me to grasp that because I just don't think it really matters that much. Not that it ever happens, troons always act 100% stereotypically male.