My Apology - what some dimissively call troll's remorse, but darker

[Next Task]

I was just wondering how close this was to Idubbbz' apology, which I didn't watch.

I never for a second thought this could be sincere.

 

[Citation Checking Project]

Happy Pride Month!
Could you kindly explain to us, in as much detail as possible, the events that led to you becoming a progressive and openly being an ally to the LGBTQIA+ community?
Do ignore the more negative users. Most of us are just very curious about what has happened between 2020 and 2023.
Cheers!

Thank you for the kind words!

There's never going to be a complete answer to that question unfortunately, but I can sive you what I think as of right now are the most salient elements.

I know that even before I joined KF I felt trapped and hunted, and not listened to. I envisioned my life as trying to avoid trouble by day and by night, secretly finding relief from a society that made no sense. I bought into a lot of alt-right adjacent rhetoric so it was clear that expressing my true beliefs, even in nuance, was not an option. I needed either confidentiality or anonymity to be my full self, and I did not find a space that offered the former. While I was able to keep appearances and stay in school, my mental health was shit, suffice to say.

Fast forward a bit later, I like the directness and mindset on KF so I join after lurking for a while. Then at the beginning of 2019, the alt-right pipeline starts being talked about, (and a bunch of other stuff happens in my personal life too) so I start doubting whether I have the right perspective. I'm off KF for a while, I try to reach out to people but it doesn't work. I can't find compelling answers to my questions on the other side so I keep a foot in both. I take the position that "There's literally nothing wrong with doxing" so I do it. Posting also becomes genuinely fun and thrilling, so I stay. Then COVID-19 hits for 3 semesters so it's even more fucked, and finally I kind of decide to ghost this place and try to forget and reset my mindset a bit. I make the hypothesis that the Nazi propaganda I believe isn't true so I can go to hobby clubs on campus a bit, and essentially try a different life on. And now I cant go back.

You will probably realise that none of this is based on first-principles, rational decisions. I joined because I felt a certain way and I left because I felt a different way. Though I am genuinely convinced that reason and evidence are the best tools we have, it's also not how these kinds of decisions happen. That took me a long time to understand too.

I also know that "There's literally nothing wrong with doxing" and general KF behavior follows a very libertarian, rights-observing way of thinking. We think that if you hurt someone on the Internet, it's fundamentally ok because that was within your rights. There are no objective ethics so it's a fair way to go about it. The only thing about it is you have to accept reciprocity, which means your emotions don't matter either, and I don't think that was ever going to make me happy.

Sorry for taking a couple days to respond, I needed to focus on something else for a while.

 

[AgendaPoster]

alt-right pipeline

Agreed on doxing.
I'm actually not a libertarian. I like orderly societies, not random people online making (actually) private info about lolcows public out of vengeance. But mocking lolcows is legitimate, although I think you should never mess with them in RL.
You seem young, mentioned semesters, so I assume student. That means you're in search of an identity, maybe one that is starting to crystallize. You also seem to have taken some decisions based on feelings, even though you mention reason, and then at the end you again bring back emotions, so I will assume this might be a highly emotionally intensive moment of your life.
However, sometimes these feelings of hurt are the result of opposing actual objective reality, and smashing your head against a wall. This is absolutely the case with transsexualism. Encouraging these lost people to continue getting lost, and wander through body mods and surgeries is not ethical whatsoever. It is also deeply unethical to promote a society based on individual self-determination and "autonomy" above all else, in fact, since progressives want to crush people on the right and ostracize them, it is obvious that you can only be autonomous if you tolerate every single thing that most societies and cultures considered deviant for thousands of years.
You should never attempt to find spaces to be your "full self". You do know that we developed parts of our brain (the most advanced ones) to inhibit behaviors, so we can function in societies? Seeking a "Full self" is hedonism taken to an extreme. In fact, you should moderate your behaviors to fit in better... and if you're truly high IQ, you might influence societies to fit you better too.
All in all, you seem to be seeking some sort of ideology or group that would adopt you.
You also seem lonely. Why "reach out to people" as a purpose in itself? You either make friends, or you don't. Not all of us are gregarious social beings.
You mentioned the alt right pipeline. Have you been doxed by Caleb Cain or "allies"?
What happened in those "hobby clubs" to change your stance on "Nazi propaganda"? What parts of that propaganda were so severely deconstructed that you felt (again, not reason, but feelings) that you cannot be a believer again?
I still have a suspicion that specific people kinda blackmailed you. You should really let us know.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

I also know that "There's literally nothing wrong with doxing" and general KF behavior follows a very libertarian, rights-observing way of thinking. We think that if you hurt someone on the Internet, it's fundamentally ok because that was within your rights. There are no objective ethics so it's a fair way to go about it. The only thing about it is you have to accept reciprocity, which means your emotions don't matter either, and I don't think that was ever going to make me happy.

Alright, your opinions and reasons for using the site were retarded and childish to begin with (your current ones for whatever you're doing are retarded and childish too btw, stop searching for identity in socio-politically charged circles), but where exactly does the reasoning come from that the leftist sites online somehow care more about your feelings?

The only difference between here and elsewhere online in modern day, is that here it isn't expected that you find contrived excuses as to why someone is an evil person before being shitty to them, and the staff here would never dream of allowing the kind of vicious, direct attacks on a person's livelihood that are totally commonplace on other left leaning websites, in progressive journalism, etc.

And whether or not that's true in practice, I can at least guarantee that despite your claims, those people absolutely don't care any more about hurting you than anyone here; they just take one extra step of collectively coming up with a superficial excuse as to why you deserve it.

Plus if those places are so great and open minded, I invite you to try experimenting with the opposite: try going to one of these other explicitly progressive websites and saying the same thing you are here but reversed, that their ideology is ridiculous, you're sorry for ever buying into the LGBTQIA+ agenda, and you're swearing it off. See what happens, because I can bet once your feelings don't align with theirs they'll not be so concerned about them or your right to express them. Once you don't agree with them anymore, you aren't a person anymore.

You've seen with JK Rowling, how long did that woman spend toeing the progressive line? And how was she treated by these wonderful, empathetic people the second she broke rank on a single issue?

Really what it sounds like is that you came to this site because you wanted to be subversive, now you're going with the other team because you want to fit in.

(For the record, I'm not even arguing that the other "side" is right, but you should stop looking for the correct team to join or w/e, because in the context of modern partisan political discourse that doesn't exist)

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

I know that even before I joined KF I felt trapped and hunted, and not listened to. I envisioned my life as trying to avoid trouble by day and by night, secretly finding relief from a society that made no sense. I bought into a lot of alt-right adjacent rhetoric so it was clear that expressing my true beliefs, even in nuance, was not an option. I needed either confidentiality or anonymity to be my full self, and I did not find a space that offered the former. While I was able to keep appearances and stay in school, my mental health was shit, suffice to say.

Why do you associate the forum with alt-right? I'm not alt-right, @AgendaPoster isn't alt-right as far as I know, many users are openly liberal, gay, apolitical - if you step out of A&H and political lolcows you'll find people of all political views and preferences. This is not some kind of sad incel circlejerk like greatawakening.win.

 

[Scout Trooper]

Fast forward a bit later, I like the directness and mindset on KF so I join after lurking for a while. Then at the beginning of 2019, the alt-right pipeline starts being talked about, (and a bunch of other stuff happens in my personal life too) so I start doubting whether I have the right perspective. I'm off KF for a while, I try to reach out to people but it doesn't work. I can't find compelling answers to my questions on the other side so I keep a foot in both. I take the position that "There's literally nothing wrong with doxing" so I do it. Posting also becomes genuinely fun and thrilling, so I stay. Then COVID-19 hits for 3 semesters so it's even more fucked, and finally I kind of decide to ghost this place and try to forget and reset my mindset a bit. I make the hypothesis that the Nazi propaganda I believe isn't true so I can go to hobby clubs on campus a bit, and essentially try a different life on. And now I cant go back.

Man, I can see your little moral compass spinning like a scene from a Bermuda Triangle movie.

You've got no idea who you are, or what matters to you so you just drift from extreme ideology to extreme ideology based on how much they meet your emotional needs at the moment. Then you fall in and start imitating the behavior of those people.

The problem is you've got no idea why they're doing those things. They're not doing them for the reasons you imagine.

The worst part of it is you feel morally superior while you're doing these things, until you don't.

That's pretty chilling shit. I know you're young and maybe you don't have the resources available to go to some kind of individual counseling but you really should start looking into these impulses you have before you really fuck your life up.

You're a great candidate for joining a criminal gang or some other activity that's going to get you into some bad situations.

Good luck.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

That's pretty chilling shit. I know you're young and maybe you don't have the resources available to go to some kind of individual counseling but you really should start looking into these impulses you have before you really fuck your life up.

Just talking to an actual real life friend or a family member who cares about him would probably help a lot. We all know where attraction to extreme ideologies comes from: absent father figure.

 

[Negrate]

can't wait for this retards op ed in the new york times about how he left far right hate site kiwifarms just know OP much like freddrick brennen and the guy who ran that incel forum the mainstream fame will be short and when you come running back to us you will not be welcomed also saying sorry to vaush kek

Man, I can see your little moral compass spinning like a scene from a Bermuda Triangle movie.

You've got no idea who you are, or what matters to you so you just drift from extreme ideology to extreme ideology based on how much they meet your emotional needs at the moment. Then you fall in and start imitating the behavior of those people.

The problem is you've got no idea why they're doing those things. They're not doing them for the reasons you imagine.

The worst part of it is you feel morally superior while you're doing these things, until you don't.

That's pretty chilling shit. I know you're young and maybe you don't have the resources available to go to some kind of individual counseling but you really should start looking into these impulses you have before you really fuck your life up.

You're a great candidate for joining a criminal gang or some other activity that's going to get you into some bad situations.

Good luck.

this guy was literally me like 2 years ago i was lonely and without friends so i would just drift from extreme ideology to extreme ideology fun fact i even talked to the caleb cain guy mentioned in OP on discord and he was very autistic about politics and now identifys as an anti technology conservative lmao

 

[Dyn]

Well it sounds like you were the kind of seething rightoid faggot we only reluctantly tolerate here in the first place. Are you going to try behaving like a decent human being now or are you just swapping straight to being a seething leftoid faggot?

 

[Negrate]

@Citation Checking Project just some advice from my time in your shoes if you an atheist your will never have solid morals so you will keep going from different sides like ping pong its like distro hopping in linux but how you avoid that is you convert to christianity that gave me and will give you a soild moral framework which will not be undone after watching a contrapoints video thats why communists hate god because it gives you a set moral compas so my advice to you would be stop trying to fit in with godless leftists who will turn on you at the sight of disagreement and seek christ someone who will forever love you believe me you will not regret it

 

[Glowie]

Sorry for taking a couple days to respond, I needed to focus on something else for a while.

Like dilating hatchet wounds?
You're a tranny chaser with a fancy badge.
Anyone identified as alt-right, are faggots.

 

[Citation Checking Project]

I came here with a neutral stance on them, I wasn't even checking their threads and I generally believe that it's the same with the right as it is with the left - the farther you go from the center the worse and more retarded it gets. Then Keffals happened and I learned how they insist on invading female-only spaces, how they viciously attack women who refuse to validate them, how they manipulate dumb teenagers into mutilating themselves for their own validation and possibly for sexual gratification.
Nothing any Kiwi said made me anti-troon. Troons made me anti-troon with their words and actions. All KF did was documenting those words and actions.

Appreciate the honesty. I think what you're missing is there's a huge selection bias in what Kiwi will show you and in which order. Those "words and actions" are not representative of a demographic any more than any other highly curated feed would be. So yes you did get fooled by far-right propaganda, I'm sorry to tell you.

And why the fuck would some autistic retard apologize to pedophiles and trannies (but I repeat myself) on Kiwi Farms, when it's on tor, when none of those people are even smart enough to read it?

Just pure autism.

I'll send them all a copy next week (and I need to add Lilith Lovett and David Sheratt as well) now that I've gotten some useful feedback. It's an open letter so imo it makes sense to post on a public forum where people know the context.

To (imperfectly) quote Null, "The word pedophile is like a loaded weapon. You don't point it at someone unless you are absolutely sure you want them to die". Chill it with the calls for mass murder, or at least acknowledge you're doing them ok?

You're apologizing to Vaush, a piece of commie shit roughly sculpted into the shape of a human being. And that bit about 'toxic masculinity'? Trust me, you have no worries on that score.

Again, I hat Twitch celebrity culture and I think Vaush is disingenuous, but it was wrong for me to dox him so I have to acknowledge that.

Can you expand on your thoughts about toxic masculinity?

The one thing I and others have noticed about troll's remorse is the strangely high number of weepy, whiny former trolls who make these public confessions invariably start exploring their feminine side, if you know what I mean. Oh, you don't know what I mean. Okay, I mean sexually. I mean they troon out and start taking it up the ass, usually from black dudes. It's a weird, seemingly inevitable pattern all of you fall into. Your trolling was a symptom of your real problem, and your real problem was apparently the lack of black cock up your ass. I suggest you get right on that, if you know what I mean.

Okay, you're giving me that look again. I mean get right on that sexually, literally. It's a joke, okay? A play on words. Jesus.

So would that be a happy ending or a sad ending? Is it better for self-repressing trans people on KF to quit and touch grass or should they stagnate here forever?

Great stuff, but I really, really wanna hear the full story from the OP. Just look at this beauty, don't we want more of it?
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Am I factually wrong? Do you disagree? Feel free to discuss.

Agreed on doxing.
I'm actually not a libertarian. I like orderly societies, not random people online making (actually) private info about lolcows public out of vengeance. But mocking lolcows is legitimate, although I think you should never mess with them in RL.

You seem young, mentioned semesters, so I assume student. That means you're in search of an identity, maybe one that is starting to crystallize. You also seem to have taken some decisions based on feelings, even though you mention reason, and then at the end you again bring back emotions, so I will assume this might be a highly emotionally intensive moment of your life.
However, sometimes these feelings of hurt are the result of opposing actual objective reality, and smashing your head against a wall. This is absolutely the case with transsexualism. Encouraging these lost people to continue getting lost, and wander through body mods and surgeries is not ethical whatsoever. It is also deeply unethical to promote a society based on individual self-determination and "autonomy" above all else, in fact, since progressives want to crush people on the right and ostracize them, it is obvious that you can only be autonomous if you tolerate every single thing that most societies and cultures considered deviant for thousands of years.

There's always going to be disagreements about what should and shouldn't be tolerated and it's always going to be difficult. First, if we can get rid of a lot of idiosyncratic superstitions that societies and cultures have had in the past, e.g. no homo, no blood transfusions, no left-handers that'd be a good first step right? OTOH there are things to learn from traditions. Now as far as autonomy goes, I'm not opposed to having guard rails, but if we're setting them we absolutely need to listen to the people themselves to know what's going on, because they know thing we don't a priori. There is a lot of thought that goes into the risk-benefit of this or that body modification, KF is just not showing it to you. On the ostracization part I think it's very simple: if you baselessly accuse entire groups of child molestation, it's not going to be tolerated and it shouldn't. That applies not only to transphobia, but also homophobia, antisemitism, QAnon shit, antivax shit, etc.

You should never attempt to find spaces to be your "full self". You do know that we developed parts of our brain (the most advanced ones) to inhibit behaviors, so we can function in societies? Seeking a "Full self" is hedonism taken to an extreme. In fact, you should moderate your behaviors to fit in better... and if you're truly high IQ, you might influence societies to fit you better too.
All in all, you seem to be seeking some sort of ideology or group that would adopt you.

That's generally true. Maybe I should say authentic self. The difficulty is picking what to inhibit and which configuration leads to the best life, but that's hard to figure out.

You also seem lonely. Why "reach out to people" as a purpose in itself? You either make friends, or you don't. Not all of us are gregarious social beings.

To clarify, when I say reach out I mean ask for help, not look for friends. I did struggle with loneliness though.

You mentioned the alt right pipeline. Have you been doxed by Caleb Cain or "allies"?

Good question. I have not been doxed, threatened, or blackmailed. FWIW I have exchanged some e-mails w/ Future Freedom (which has now been shutdown) and while I was very careful anyways, I don't think doxing is part of their toolbox at all.

What happened in those "hobby clubs" to change your stance on "Nazi propaganda"? What parts of that propaganda were so severely deconstructed that you felt (again, not reason, but feelings) that you cannot be a believer again?

In hobby groups in my generation, political normies will have a generalized "it's ok to be foreign, LGBT or pretty much whatever" stance and generally enforce it. If you want an example, imagine a maker space where you go to fix laptops and solder keyboards. As a result, if you have this mentality that if you say a black person or a gay person it's a threat, whether it's physical violence, weaponized cancelation, whatever, you're going to make yourself into a Hikikomori faster than you can pronounce it because it's scary out there. The alternative is you can say "ok I'm just going to assume that statistically most of my interactions with other people are going to be positive sum" which is actually a pretty good heuristic, and then try and act within the range of normal. And now the emotion is that I know that I'm going to get eliminated with all my relatives if the Nazis (or Commies for that matter) take over (it was always true to be clear, I just didn't know) so I'm bought in to the current order come hell or high water. The difference is my fears have changed.

I still have a suspicion that specific people kinda blackmailed you. You should really let us know.

No one knows my real identity or has anything on me. It's because I'm pseudonymous that I can speak my heart.

Alright, your opinions and reasons for using the site were retarded and childish to begin with (your current ones for whatever you're doing are retarded and childish too btw, stop searching for identity in socio-politically charged circles), but where exactly does the reasoning come from that the leftist sites online somehow care more about your feelings?

Online lefties are absolute cancer, which is why I touch grass.

The only difference between here and elsewhere online in modern day, is that here it isn't expected that you find contrived excuses as to why someone is an evil person before being shitty to them, and the staff here would never dream of allowing the kind of vicious, direct attacks on a person's livelihood that are totally commonplace on other left leaning websites, in progressive journalism, etc.

Yeah some left-leaning people are vicious. Sure. OK. That doesn't excuse what I did.

And whether or not that's true in practice, I can at least guarantee that despite your claims, those people absolutely don't care any more about hurting you than anyone here; they just take one extra step of collectively coming up with a superficial excuse as to why you deserve it.

Depends who.

Plus if those places are so great and open minded, I invite you to try experimenting with the opposite: try going to one of these other explicitly progressive websites and saying the same thing you are here but reversed, that their ideology is ridiculous, you're sorry for ever buying into the LGBTQIA+ agenda, and you're swearing it off. See what happens, because I can bet once your feelings don't align with theirs they'll not be so concerned about them or your right to express them. Once you don't agree with them anymore, you aren't a person anymore.

Depends how you frame it. A lot of that gets expressed and resolved behind closed doors, so you don't see it on KF, you only see the bad drama. Remember that.

You've seen with JK Rowling, how long did that woman spend toeing the progressive line? And how was she treated by these wonderful, empathetic people the second she broke rank on a single issue?

JKR is duplicitous as fuck.

Really what it sounds like is that you came to this site because you wanted to be subversive, now you're going with the other team because you want to fit in.

Maybe I don't think KF is really subversive though, and I don't think I'm guaranteed to fit in either.

(For the record, I'm not even arguing that the other "side" is right, but you should stop looking for the correct team to join or w/e, because in the context of modern partisan political discourse that doesn't exist)

Polarization is definitely a thing worldwide, that's for sure.

Why do you associate the forum with alt-right? I'm not alt-right, @AgendaPoster isn't alt-right as far as I know, many users are openly liberal, gay, apolitical - if you step out of A&H and political lolcows you'll find people of all political views and preferences. This is not some kind of sad incel circlejerk like greatawakening.win.

You may not realize this, but this site is a ton more tolerant of far-right viewpoints than it should.

Man, I can see your little moral compass spinning like a scene from a Bermuda Triangle movie.

You've got no idea who you are, or what matters to you so you just drift from extreme ideology to extreme ideology based on how much they meet your emotional needs at the moment. Then you fall in and start imitating the behavior of those people.

The problem is you've got no idea why they're doing those things. They're not doing them for the reasons you imagine.

The worst part of it is you feel morally superior while you're doing these things, until you don't.

That's pretty chilling shit. I know you're young and maybe you don't have the resources available to go to some kind of individual counseling but you really should start looking into these impulses you have before you really fuck your life up.

You're a great candidate for joining a criminal gang or some other activity that's going to get you into some bad situations.

Good luck.

This was true of my younger self, but I've crash-landed in a way that I'm unlikely to get involved into too much stuff now. You're not wrong though and I appreciate you concern. I did attend individual counseling and the conclusion was that this public apology route was sound given my specific circumstances.

this guy was literally me like 2 years ago i was lonely and without friends so i would just drift from extreme ideology to extreme ideology fun fact i even talked to the caleb cain guy mentioned in OP on discord and he was very autistic about politics and now identifys as an anti technology conservative lmao

good to know I'm not the only one.

@Citation Checking Project just some advice from my time in your shoes if you an atheist your will never have solid morals so you will keep going from different sides like ping pong its like distro hopping in linux but how you avoid that is you convert to christianity that gave me and will give you a soild moral framework which will not be undone after watching a contrapoints video thats why communists hate god because it gives you a set moral compas so my advice to you would be stop trying to fit in with godless leftists who will turn on you at the sight of disagreement and seek christ someone who will forever love you believe me you will not regret it

Appreciate it. I stopped distro-hopping a few years ago, I'm not a communist and I think video essays are junk content so I should be fine even without Jesus.

Well it sounds like you were the kind of seething rightoid faggot we only reluctantly tolerate here in the first place. Are you going to try behaving like a decent human being now or are you just swapping straight to being a seething leftoid faggot?

ok wojak

No one here likes you or liked your posts bro. We only tolerated you because we're retarded bro. I swear we're not useful idiots for the far right bro. I swear bro.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Am I factually wrong? Do you disagree? Feel free to discuss.

You are incorrect, yes.
Nazis burned books from a very specific institute on that event you mentioned. To describe them as books about "human sexuality" is misleading. They were books about paraphilias and behaviors that were highly atypical then, and still are to this day. Nazis were not prudes, they mostly tolerated what you would call cisheteronormative sex even outside marriage, as long as it was between the correct type of people, as they considered it back then. They were not what you would call "trad" or wingnut religious.
So the Nazis only wanted to denormalize, yes with often extreme methods, the queer, gender non-conforming behaviors, and also destroyed the very first "research" into transsexualism and related surgeries.
Since you cannot change sex and I am 100% against affirming delusional thought, I fail to see how normalizing it leads to anything good for a society. Do you affirm people that claim they are the reincarnation of Ramses? I saw one at the hospital a few months ago.
People identify as all sorts of things, and people get mentally ill. We do not affirm their illness, unless it's related to "gender identity" and sexual organs. Can you explain what makes gender identity special? Why not treat it without affirming like we do with body dysmorphias?

There's always going to be disagreements about what should and shouldn't be tolerated and it's always going to be difficult. First, if we can get rid of a lot of idiosyncratic superstitions that societies and cultures have had in the past, e.g. no homo, no blood transfusions, no left-handers that'd be a good first step right? OTOH there are things to learn from traditions. Now as far as autonomy goes, I'm not opposed to having guard rails, but if we're setting them we absolutely need to listen to the people themselves to know what's going on, because they know thing we don't a priori. There is a lot of thought that goes into the risk-benefit of this or that body modification, KF is just not showing it to you. On the ostracization part I think it's very simple: if you baselessly accuse entire groups of child molestation, it's not going to be tolerated and it shouldn't. That applies not only to transphobia, but also homophobia, antisemitism, QAnon shit, antivax shit, etc.

OK, so we acknowledge that social boundaries are societal constructs.
I'm not religious so I don't really care about any of that, people are free to believe it, but just as with trans, we should never normalize it at a state level. Or corporate level.
Homosexuality is different, and a bit harder to argue for/against compared to trans. That's a pretty big discussion, about reproduction, hedonism, and denormalizing the heterosexual family that creates offspring, which work and pay up taxes that sustain older generations. There is also the fact that allowing marriage and adoption leads to children being taught that homosexuality is as normal as heterosexuality, which it is not, it is a minority sexual inclination that does not result in reproduction.
I still don't generally agree with groomer accusations. Pedophilia is a crime and should be always prosecuted through the law, and a law&order powerful state should enforce that with severity.
However, those "phobias" in your list are generally the result of pattern observing and stereotypes. There are studies that prove that such patterns are real and people with high cognition observe them better. Humans evolved as a species to be tribal and reluctant to associate with outsiders and perceived deviants.
Why change? Evolution brought us to where we are now.

 

[Dyn]

ok wojak

Straight to being a seething leftoid faggot then, got it.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I found the retard, he is a run of mill podcaster

The user name and the podcaster have different names, though. How are you sure this is him?

and the staff here would never dream of allowing the kind of vicious, direct attacks on a person's livelihood that are totally commonplace on other left leaning websites, in progressive journalism, etc.

wtf, somebody actually respects us now?

if you step out of A&H and political lolcows you'll find people of all political views and preferences

Even in A&H there are people with differing opinions (though more in happenings than in A&N)

So yes you did get fooled by far-right propaganda, I'm sorry to tell you.

What makes us far right?

I think what you're missing is there's a huge selection bias in what Kiwi will show you and in which order. Those "words and actions" are not representative of a demographic any more than any other highly curated feed would be

We have threads for many different things frequented by many different people, and created by people by all walks of life. Many different biases can flow it and stabilize the resulting product. For example, take the Ukraine threads, both are full of biases, but if you read both, you can get a pretty decent understanding of reality. But one of these viewpoints is suppressed in the West. You are factually getting more honest view here than elsewhere. Same with trannies, criticizing them in the west is usually not allowed, in places like UK it's an actual crime. If you think we're wrong about trannies, feel free to make a thread to disprove it. We have an entire board dedicated to debates.

but it was wrong for me to dox him so I have to acknowledge that.

Did you reveal private information?

Am I factually wrong?

You are being disingenuous. What Nazi's burned in the event you are referencing is the schizophrenic "research" of a doctor who dug up dead bodies to implant their uteruses into women (possibly men too) promising that they could then get pregnant and would give them eternal youth. They usually died. The doctor promoting this research was a foot fag and a homo. Just in general, a lot of his patients died or committed suicide.

 

[MadDisaster]

I'm sorry, but I think you have still missed a fundamental part if grown-up thought. You are responsible for your choices, behavior, and actions - it's not a forum, or right-wing brainwashing, or being lonely, or not having a father. You are the barrier between all of those things and your actions and behaviors.

This is actually a you problem, and you will continue these patterns of behavior for approval in other environments. How long until you're doxing people and helping to hound them for ass pats from whatever new group you fall in with? How long will your newfound tolerance last? Will you be bullying "transphobes" on twitter, or defending pedos?

Have fun! You haven't improved. You aren’t a better person. You'll still wake up tomorrow being the same person no matter where you spend your online time.

 

[AnOminous]

Have fun! You haven't improved. You aren’t a better person. You'll still wake up tomorrow being the same person no matter where you spend your online time.

"Wherever you go, there you are." Buckaroo Banzai

 

[JustSomeDong]

This isn't some weird trolls remorse. This is cringe remorse.

this right here is one of the gayest things i've seen since Colonel J (The Sheriff)

ETA your formatting sucks, why are your linebreaks all broken? it's almost like you just copy/pasted from somewhere else

I wouldn't be surprised if he's the kind of douche that hands out "business cards" like this:

But since this is a remorse thread, I'm sorry, too OP. Sorry you've drunk deep of the well o' troonshine.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

Even in A&H there are people with differing opinions (though more in happenings than in A&N)

Most posts I see there are either alt-right, normal \ sensible right or people who go there to argue with the alt-right.

Those "words and actions" are not representative of a demographic any more than any other highly curated feed would be. So yes you did get fooled by far-right propaganda, I'm sorry to tell you.

I was talking about words and actions of transsexuals. I grew to dislike them greatly after witnessing, among other:
- Lucas Roberts lying to get KF removed from Cloudflare.
- Eliot Fong-Jones harassing people to make various service providers drop KF.
- Multiple trans activists and allies viciously attacking J. K. Rowling for stating basic biological facts.
- Just recently, convicted violent offender Anthony Halliday using broken and corrupt court system in a failing country to harass a woman.
If you believe that you turned your life around by coming to the other side, you are wrong. You just replaced one cult-like group of violent and disturbed individuals with another. Radicalism is the same, methods are the same, the only thing that changed are slogans.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

normal \ sensible right or people who go there to argue with the alt-right.

Well, there you go! Difference in opinion.

Though personally, I'd call most of the posters there simply right, rather than alt-right