My Apology - what some dimissively call troll's remorse, but darker

[JustSomeDong]

Though personally, I'd call most of the posters there simply right, rather than alt-right

Asking someone to define the alt-right is just like asking someone to define woke, these days. Ask 10 people on the street, and you'll get 10 different, often highly contradictory responses.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

Though personally, I'd call most of the posters there simply right, rather than alt-right

Guess it depends on how you define alt-right. I associate alt-right with shitposting, memes and making overblown, often humorous statements about their views (as opposed to boomer conservatism with its holier-than-thou element or far-right with its I-want-to-suck-Hitler's-dick element).

That applies not only to transphobia,

I'm not afraid of them and I think I get along with people such as @CammieDoxGirl quite well.
I dislike perverts, rapists, pedophiles and their supporters. If you are an adult and just want to put on a wig and a skirt and live your life with another consenting adult and don't interfere with my life in any of its aspects, I don't care.

but also homophobia,

I have no problem with gay people.

antisemitism,

I'm in a small part Jewish (genetically, not by culture or faith), I like myself and my family. There are actual Jewish people on the forum and they like it here.

QAnon shit,

If you don't like them you should be happy to know that there is a thread making fun of them on Kiwi Farms.

antivax shit, etc.

They have a thread here too.

 

[AnOminous]

Asking someone to define the alt-right is just like asking someone to define woke, these days. Ask 10 people on the street, and you'll get 10 different, often highly contradictory responses.

Or they might not even have ever heard it. It's not something normal people talk about.

 

[Jones McCann]

I generally believe that it's the same with the right as it is with the left - the farther you go from the center the worse and more retarded it gets.

The dynamic of political belief in America can be defined as a spectrum, and sitting on both the extreme ends is anime shit, trannies, pedos, everything that is offensive to decent people, and a few good ideas that are discredited by the former. In the middle are people who have no critical faculties or beliefs but like to pretend. On no side of importance are the niggercattle, who believe whatever the man on tv said. The remaining can barely pick a side, instead they wait for someone who isn't a facsimile of a human being to come, but those are inevitably supressed and lose because someone decided niggercattle should have the right to decide anything of any importance whatsoever. In almost every case, the only winning move is not to play.

 

[Cats]

I don't know if this means anything but as soon as I clicked this thread my cat suddenly yelled the word "grrlellelbl" across the room at me from within a deep sleep

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I don't know if this means anything but as soon as I clicked this thread my cat suddenly yelled the word "grrlellelbl" across the room at me from within a deep sleep

I believe the cat just cast some sort of a curse on you

 

[Poppavalyim Andropoff]

OP is a faggot blogger

 

[Something Awful]

I'm you from the future.

You're a twenty-something kid, you think you've reached some elevated state of understanding that others should aspire to? By discovering "hobby clubs" and going from a based and redpilled doxer of trannies to enlightened ally of queer folx? Sounds more like you traded one brand of clueless faggotry for another.

Good luck on your continued journey of self-discovery, though. Life is complicated.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

In almost every case, the only winning move is not to play.

I have a little different strategy: treat politicians as whores that they are - you hire them to do a job, if they perform to your expectations - you return (vote for them again), if not - you don't. At the same time expect to only hear lies and never, under any circumstances get emotionally invested.

 

[Jones McCann]

I have a little different strategy: treat politicians as whores that they are - you hire them to do a job, if they perform to your expectations - you return (vote for them again), if not - you don't. At the same time expect to only hear lies and never, under any circumstances get emotionally invested.

I refuse to invest anything in it except in my moments of weakness, expressing my contempt of it is purely for my benefit. If anyone deserving of my vote comes along, I will be made known of him without looking, just like Trump. Any other vote on the federal level can't be justified.

 

[Spunt]

Many moons ago, when I was about your age, I joined a political group, said some stupid things, and regretted it. I wrote an embarrassing apology that only served to made me look even more like an idiot. I went from fairly cringe to levels of cringe that may violate the Geneva convention.

You are doing what I did, but in front of way more people and in a manner that makes what I did look like a tiny woopsie.

The good news is that I grew out of it. I learned to grow some testicles, stick by my convictions, and also learned that nobody cares if you do dumb shit, but once you start apologising you look like a cringe retard, turn yourself into a target for scorn and ridicule and you generally make everything worse for yourself in every way. If you regret being part of a group, then just leave. I hope you learn like I did, but, no offence, I'm not optimistic judging by what you've posted in this thread.

Don't lecture other people once you've bounced to a differing political group. You won't convince anyone, and as you appear to be young, naive and broken in the head and it will only piss people off. One thing I've learned from being in various political circles (I have friends online and irl with greatly differing political views) is that most Fascists used to be Communists and vice versa. People are attracted to extreme ideologies not on the merits of those ideologies (in my view they don't have any merits), but because being a part of a radical group fills some kind of perceived psychological need. When it doesn't fulfil that need, they decide the ideology was the problem and switch to the other extreme, and surprise surprise that doesn't improve their life either. After that they tend to either grow up or join a cult. Which will you do?

 

[Citation Checking Project]

You are incorrect, yes.
Nazis burned books from a very specific institute on that event you mentioned. To describe them as books about "human sexuality" is misleading. They were books about paraphilias and behaviors that were highly atypical then, and still are to this day. Nazis were not prudes, they mostly tolerated what you would call cisheteronormative sex even outside marriage, as long as it was between the correct type of people, as they considered it back then. They were not what you would call "trad" or wingnut religious.
So the Nazis only wanted to denormalize, yes with often extreme methods, the queer, gender non-conforming behaviors, and also destroyed the very first "research" into transsexualism and related surgeries.
Since you cannot change sex and I am 100% against affirming delusional thought, I fail to see how normalizing it leads to anything good for a society. Do you affirm people that claim they are the reincarnation of Ramses? I saw one at the hospital a few months ago.
People identify as all sorts of things, and people get mentally ill. We do not affirm their illness, unless it's related to "gender identity" and sexual organs. Can you explain what makes gender identity special? Why not treat it without affirming like we do with body dysmorphias?

You are being disingenuous. What Nazi's burned in the event you are referencing is the schizophrenic "research" of a doctor who dug up dead bodies to implant their uteruses into women (possibly men too) promising that they could then get pregnant and would give them eternal youth. They usually died. The doctor promoting this research was a foot fag and a homo. Just in general, a lot of his patients died or committed suicide.

I will gladly go to bat for the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft, albeit based on limited knowledge. It was absolutely about human sexuality in all its breadth. Not only did they provide IST care and contraception to straight people, studying homosexuality exclusively would still be human sexuality because it is an important part of the topic. There is a majority but you cant ignore the less frequent cases because 1. they are part of the same natural system so they may contain information and 2. you will have gay patients. Same goes for trans identity and to a lesser degree paraphilias. I don't know how you came to think not many of the books that were burnt were about human sexuality. That was clearly the main topic.
I agree that womb transplant were a horrible idea. That's not a specificity of the IfS, the whole history of medicine is full of horrible ideas, just fewer and fewer as you go forward in time.
It's odd that one of the sources you link is a book poetically speculating about the possible contents of the archives, with no particularly salient information besides the fact that the archives are in fact gone and we lack insight into them. Oh and someone had a kink, ok cool.
As far as how Nazi society was or wasn't tolerating hetero extra-marital sex I don't see what that does. Not a theocracy, still a violently oppressive society even for straight men to be in. Why are you defending and rationalizing it? I mean deep down I know...
To answer on trans identity, it's well established that trans people don't feel trans because they are hallucinating or going nuts They have a deep, persistent drive to live a certain way. You know, an identity. You have patients like that that keep coming, you have to find out what the least bad way to handle it is. Each one is different, they don't all want surgery, they also live in a certain society, etc. It's messy, accept that you don't know better than doctors.

Many moons ago, when I was about your age, I joined a political group, said some stupid things, and regretted it. I wrote an embarrassing apology that only served to made me look even more like an idiot. I went from fairly cringe to levels of cringe that may violate the Geneva convention.

Thank you for sharing this, I appreciate your concern. I would still make the OP if I could choose right now, because I think my situation is different. Among other things, I have done something I cant just leave unaddressed, the stupid things I said are public and pseudonymous, and the apology is as well. It has also brought me a sense of closure to do this and I believe I will have an easier time moving on.

Don't lecture other people once you've bounced to a differing political group. You won't convince anyone, and as you appear to be young, naive and broken in the head and it will only piss people off. One thing I've learned from being in various political circles (I have friends online and irl with greatly differing political views) is that most Fascists used to be Communists and vice versa. People are attracted to extreme ideologies not on the merits of those ideologies (in my view they don't have any merits), but because being a part of a radical group fills some kind of perceived psychological need. When it doesn't fulfil that need, they decide the ideology was the problem and switch to the other extreme, and surprise surprise that doesn't improve their life either. After that they tend to either grow up or join a cult. Which will you do?

that's a valid concern. I am aware of this phenomenon and I am confident that I won't end up doing back and forths. I think my life is stable enough now so I should be fine. And don't worry I didn't expect to convince anybody on the spot or anything.

I will do direct apologies in the next few weeks if y'all want to know.

 

[AgendaPoster]

They have a deep, persistent drive to live a certain way. You know, an identity.

Can you offer any evidence that can be replicated across separate studies for a "deep trans identity" existing?
Lefties and progressives should be all about science and dismantling religious, belief-based, faith dogma.
Before you ask no I am not religious.
I'll wait.
As for the "it's in nature", so is murder and rape. Being in nature is irrelevant. Humans are gregarious social creatures, and they impose societal rules that are oppressive, no exception, for those deemed outsiders.
You show me ONE, SINGLE society based on free love and individual autonomy. There are NONE.
Since we know that there are social rules to be respected and inhibitions to be enforced, I fail to see why I should accept that the groups I belong to be made outsiders and outcasts.

 

[POWER IN MISERY]

this thread is fucking gay

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

The OP is so pozzed I think my computer needs an HIV test now.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Elaine: "So guess who called me last night? Jason Hanke."
George: "'Stanky Hanke'? What did he want?"
Elaine: "He called to apologize for standing me up five years ago."
Jerry: "Why now?"
Elaine: "A.A. It's one of the Twelve Steps. Step number Nine is you have to
apologize to anyone you've ever wronged."
George: "Ho ho ho ho! I can't wait for Hanke to come crawling back to me."
Jerry: "Still with the neck hole?"
George: "Still upset. Very upset."
Elaine: "What neck hole?"
George: "Remember that New Year's party he threw a few years ago? He had that
very drafty apartment, you know, I think on Ninth Avenue."
Elaine, becoming board: "Faster."
George: "I asked if I could borrow a sweater."
Jerry: "A cashmere sweater."
George: "I said preferably cashmere, for warmth. So in front of the whole
party, he says, 'No. I don't want you stretching out the neck hole.'"
Elaine: "Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!"
George: "Oh, yeah, sure, laugh it up. Everybody else did!"
Elaine: "Well, it's funny. I mean, you have a big head. Or is it 'cause of
your neck?"
Jerry: "No, I think the head does most of the stretching."
George: "Regardless. I had to walk around for the rest of the party in some
cheap Metlife windbreaker. Now, it is payback time."

Spoiler: doxxxxxx

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I will gladly go to bat for the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft, albeit based on limited knowledge.

What's even the point then?

I don't know how you came to think not many of the books that were burnt were about human sexuality.

Mate, please reread my post. I didn't say that they didn't burn those books, I said that calling them books about human sexuality was disingenuous. It's sorta like calling the porno 'books about sexuality'. Maybe that definition fits, but it's clearly just a porno. You are being disingenuous by wording it in such a manner that would imply a deeper and more useful purpose to those books, rather than them being what they are.

I agree that womb transplant were a horrible idea. That's not a specificity of the IfS, the whole history of medicine is full of horrible ideas

Me shooting a hooker in the face to give her a bullet resistance is a stupid idea, and yet I don't think I'd get a pass for doing the science. There are ideas that are violations of very simple basics of biology. His work in that sense, is not any more different than my hooker idea.

It's odd that one of the sources you link is a book poetically speculating about the possible contents of the archives, with no particularly salient information besides the fact that the archives are in fact gone and we lack insight into them. Oh and someone had a kink, ok cool.

Is this what you were referring to? Because the book itself sources many of Hirschfeld’s writings.

As far as how Nazi society was or wasn't tolerating hetero extra-marital sex I don't see what that does. Not a theocracy, still a violently oppressive society even for straight men to be in. Why are you defending and rationalizing it? I mean deep down I know...

Mate, AgendaPoster is many things, but he's not a Nazi. But to answer your question, like me, he provided additional context to your claim.

To answer on trans identity, it's well established that trans people don't feel trans because they are hallucinating or going nuts They have a deep, persistent drive to live a certain way. You know, an identity. You have patients like that that keep coming, you have to find out what the least bad way to handle it is. Each one is different, they don't all want surgery, they also live in a certain society, etc. It's messy, accept that you don't know better than doctors.

For person who's name includes the word citation, you seem to provide very little yourself.

It is very well established that real Transgenderism is an extremely rare mental illness, unique in the fact that it is the only mental illness that we treat by using irreversible drugs and surgery to, not treat it, but to conform to the delusions, a benefit of which was never proven, with many regretting it. There's also evidence that this is done for attention with over 80% of kids growing out of it (though that number could be as high as 95%). There is also evidence that this desire to be trans is caused by social pressure by their peers on the internet, parents, society, etc. Any studies done on transgenderism, and it's supposed benefits, are riddled with flaws, a review of which found that the quality of evidence is "very low".

But to your last point, it is merely an appeal to authority, and let me appeal to one too then. What makes you qualified to hold such an opinion then? I mean, you're not a doctor, are you?

Can you offer any evidence that can be replicated across separate studies for a "deep trans identity" existing?

There isn't any.

 

[Glowie]

The OP is so pozzed I think my computer needs an HIV test now.

OP is dead from AIDS, pedotroon cock does that.
His legacy is one of cuckery and no-one is listening to his podcast.

 

[Super Dilator Duel 3D]

I think what you're missing is there's a huge selection bias in what Kiwi will show you and in which order. Those "words and actions" are not representative of a demographic any more than any other highly curated feed would be. So yes you did get fooled by far-right propaganda, I'm sorry to tell you.

There is a lot of thought that goes into the risk-benefit of this or that body modification, KF is just not showing it to you.

No, there isn’t. KF actually shows a lot more than you think, but to realize that you’d have to actually do some research and have some independent thoughts, and since you’re a self-proclaimed journalist I can see why that’d be hard for you.

Read the GRS/SRS thread. That’s literally all you have to do. Hundreds and hundreds of FIRSTHAND accounts over thousands of pages of the batshit insane grifting that gets done by soulless hack “surgeons” and is completely protected and enforced by trannies and the media despite leaving these people in states of perpetual agony and disfigurement for the rest of their natural lives (at least until they 41%.) You will learn far more about sex change surgeries and trans “healthcare” here than you will anywhere else on the Internet and I know that for a fact because of how much I see trannies and Twittards defend these practices and the results using blatant disprovable lies and cope that requires denying objective reality in the pursuit of sexual gratification. Again, this is an easy conclusion to come to if you’d do your research, but since you see it as a good idea to label yourself as a journalist I can only presume your brain is too broken to actually read up on topics you claim to be passionate about.

And now the emotion is that I know that I'm going to get eliminated with all my relatives if the Nazis (or Commies for that matter) take over (it was always true to be clear, I just didn't know) so I'm bought in to the current order come hell or high water.

For fuck’s sake, the Nazis have been dead for 80 years. You’re not going to be dragged from your home by muh Nazis and taken to Auschwitz 2.0 for jerking off to tranny femboy hypnosis furry porn. Even though you probably should.

Depends how you frame it. A lot of that gets expressed and resolved behind closed doors, so you don't see it on KF, you only see the bad drama.

No, it doesn’t. This is gaslighting to the highest degree (standard practice for a journalist. That title really fits you!) I can tell you from experience that most of the posters on KF are here because there’s literally nowhere else to go. Trans and “woke” shit has infested nearly every community on the net, and you will be ousted without a second thought if you even so much as question the validity of it. These people don’t want free discussion of ideas, they want control over a narrative and the way you think of them and their causes. Your only alternatives to discuss anything freely on the Internet anymore are here, or lawless, pedo-infested, glowie-compromised degenerate shitholes like 4chan or Poast.

You may not realize this, but this site is a ton more tolerant of far-right viewpoints than it should.

Yes, that’s how the free exchange of ideas works. And why the fuck shouldn’t we tolerate those viewpoints? There’s not a single other place on the Internet where you can express them that isn’t filled with degenerate sex pests or retards. I don’t get it; you have Twitter, Reddit, Discord, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, multiple smaller forum communities like ResetEra and Facepunch, even large pockets on 4chan… all of these places are exactly what you want, overly restrictive monolith-style sites where trans women ARE women and nobody’s allowed to question it without being totally depersoned. Why the fuck can’t you people just leave us alone? We post publicly available information. We have strict rules against gay-ops and interfering with the lives of people we talk about. If you end up as a subject of discussion here, it’s your own damn fault, and even then all we do is make fun of you and archive shit you’ve voluntarily posted yourself. We just want to stay on our own little corner of the net and laugh and say slurs and for some fucking reason you people are not content to just allow us this ONE place, my evidence being that we’re currently relegated to using Tor and the “Dark Web” to access a site that is entirely legal in the U.S.

Overall, while I don’t blame other posters who feel differently, I have no sympathy for you. You are the perfect kind of spineless, gullible, people-pleasing retard that gets sucked into following woke trannyshit every day and it’s because you refuse to do even the slightest modicum of research into the shit you repeat like religious dogma. You’re apologizing to people who will never accept or even like you because you’ve shown openly the ability to not mindlessly agree with everything they say and follow every rule they lay out for you. Matthew Prince, with no notice or warning, and hardly any justification, dropped us from Cloudflare in what, 48 hours? And he STILL gets shit on by the people you’re trying to bend over backwards for. There is no appeasing these cunts and you’re too retarded to realize it so you sit here and smugly repeat things you’ve heard on Twitter like epic owns, not realizing you’re walking dickfirst into a hornet’s nest by trying to get along with trannies and journalists, much less after already using KF for as long as you have. Remember this, after 5 pages of mockery not a single Kiwi has tried to get you fired from your job, ousted from all your social circles, had all your financial resources cut off, etc. nor will they. But when you inevitably fuck up and your history here is exposed, or you dare have a thought that hasn’t been completely scrubbed of all dissent towards the people in power, no apology is going to save you when these power-hungry, perverted castrati decide to lock their sights on you. And we sure as hell aren’t going to welcome you back with open arms, either. Enjoy your new community and ally points while they last, retard. They won’t last long.

tl;dr you’re a massive faggot and we don’t want you here

 

[Dyn]

I can tell you from experience that most of the posters on KF are here because there’s literally nowhere else to go. Trans and “woke” shit has infested nearly every community on the net, and you will be ousted without a second thought if you even so much as question the validity of it.

I support transfolx and the LGBT community and can post my opinions pretty much anywhere I want without fear of being ousted, I post here instead because it's a better community with nicer people.