My friend joined AntiFa, what do I do?

[Pomniman]

If you value the relationship you have with this person the foremost thing you should be is a good friend.

I think a lot of people on this site have seen those that have fallen afoul of Internet communities turned political or even transsexual and from what you've described it sounds to me they've fallen into a hugbox that's driving their decisions. I don't believe you could convince them otherwise right now without them digging their heels in. I think it would be worth talking to other people you know in common to come to an understanding of the broader picture of what's going on in their life and maybe you could as a collective subtly turn them towards a healthier path.

At some point the friendship isn't worth maintaining. Trooning out and joining antifa is roughly equivalent to becoming a full blown crackhead in terms of shit you don't want to deal with, even secondhand. I'd say just cut your losses and remember them as they were rather than as what they've become.

 

[Cold Root Beer]

I'm gonna assume that you've already weighed the options of cutting them out of your life, but for personal reasons have decided against it or it's not a moral option you can choose, so I won't open with the advice of 'walk away'.

Instead, I'll say that you shouldn't argue with them or try to change what they're doing unless they specifically ask you for advice. They're doing this crazy shit of their own choice, and as a friend you have to either accept that or walk away. If you want to keep the relationship between the two of you civil, focus your conversations on not discussing politics or current news. Put it on yourself, like "with all the crazy stress in the world, I don't want to talk about that stuff", or shit, be honest with them (to an extent) and say "I don't think we'll ever see eye to eye on this stuff, and you're an important friend to me, so I'd rather not talk about that sort of stuff".

If they value you as a friend, they'll respect your wishes, and if not they're either so over the cliff that you can't save them or they don't have nearly as much invested in the relationship as you do.

 

[Reverend]

How can someone join an Idea? I'm very confused at how this works. Can someone tell Jill it's choo-choo time?

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

Do nothing, because it's nearly impossible to change somebody else's mind once they made it up.

I guess just maintain your multiple state distance and keep up with him over the phone or whatever.

 

[Tomboy Respecter]

I'd like to be the optimist and say you could talk them out of it, but just based on the fact that you two are states apart and they're living with her commie friends means that it would take an extraordinary amount of work to convert them back to sanity. You would have to neglect yourself and things you need to do in order to get that done, which isn't prudent at all. Just cut your losses and focus on making new friends that won't become LARPing anarchist revolutionaries and remember the friendship (and your friend)for what it was rather than what it is (and who they are now).

 

[Kosher Dill]

I would say just be the bridge to sanity. Be the one person in their life who talks about normal things like their job (does this friend have a job?), family, the movie you just watched - you know something other than LARP nonsense.

But you really have an uphill battle if their entire social circle is full of weirdos.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Kill him, bro

 

[BingBong]

fuck the faggot till he loves you.

 

[Ozzigy Osbourne]

Say goodbye

Bye

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

If you want to remain his friend just hide your powerlevel and keep up communication with him; Hope for the best but still keep in mind things might go south.
If you have a true friendship it should be able to endure this; Let him be the one to break things off it comes to that, otherwise be his line outside of his bubble and maintain that friendship.
Agreeing to disagree is a very useful tool as well.

t. have a few politically opposed friends that I have still kept over the years

Edit: Also, having ears in completely politically opposed bubbles can be a very useful source of information as well; Comparing what political bubbles all agree on and analyzing what exactly they disagree on is a great way to quickly get the objective gist of a current event.

Oh wait.... he is going MtF? Honestly be far more worried about that, I've seen people pretty much mentally die from that.

 

[Wes Bluemarine]

antifa isn't real how tf did he join it

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

A little corrective rape never hurt anyone.

 

[alreadyhome]

Bye

Bye

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Kill him, bro

fuck the faggot till he loves you.

Marry >him, man.

The best you can do for her is let her accidentally give cause to someone's leg amputation because they applied a tourniquet to a leg abrasion like a moron. It'll probably stop her uterus cold so it isn't starting beef with the rest of her organs anymore.

Half-jokes aside, I don't have much faith in the efficacy of logical arguments against strong convictions, especially when it comes to women-- in particular, women who would go as far as to join a group that has quite literally razed cities and brought harm to people while taking HRT. Sensible people don't get involved in either of those things. She's probably trying to fit in the social group she's spending the most time with, and if that's the case, you'd have to exert at least equal social counter-pressure (through another friend group or through escalated intimacy with her) over a comparable amount of time, and you probably can't.

 

[bluegenius8585]

That seems like it is a much bigger issue than joining a social justice cult. There is probably no way you're going to be able to reach them through that level of mental illness. Their joining a cult is just another typical step on the tranny path.

A better idea might be to find some radfem FTM resources (with the loss of r/gendercritical I'm not sure where you'd go for that) and try to ply that angle instead. If they are just starting it is not too late to save them from the biggest mistake of their life.

Honestly, unless they can be removed from the trantifa echo chambers and lunatic social circle, there is probably no hope for them until they've hit a hard rock bottom. You must kidnap them and wash their brain. (Conversion therapy did nothing wrong.)

There is r/detrans/ which is meant for actual ex-trans identifying people, and they do have a policy of not allowing soapboxing from radfems to use the members to prove their own points.

I am sure they could advise you.

Your friend reminds me a bit of my idiotic younger years

 

[Freedom Fries]

> 20 hour 1 day class
oh that seems like a fantastic learning environment. I know I learn best when I have been cramming for 15 hours on 0 hours of sleep.
The larp is so strong.

If you want to remain his friend just hide your powerlevel and keep up communication with him; Hope for the best but still keep in mind things might go south.
If you have a true friendship it should be able to endure this; Let him be the one to break things off it comes to that, otherwise be his line outside of his bubble and maintain that friendship.
Agreeing to disagree is a very useful tool as well.

t. have a few politically opposed friends that I have still kept over the years

Edit: Also, having ears in completely politically opposed bubbles can be a very useful source of information as well; Comparing what political bubbles all agree on and analyzing what exactly they disagree on is a great way to quickly get the objective gist of a current event.

Oh wait.... he is going MtF? Honestly be far more worried about that, I've seen people pretty much mentally die from that.

Having a friend who has gone to Antifa indoctrination camp is different than having a friend who has gone to a few of the "mostly peaceful protests"

 

[Sperghetti]

If you care about him that much then just talk to him more and build a stronger bond with him. Any retardation from dumb ideologies can easily be remedied by at least having someone close to you to keep you in check. This stuff starts because these people are always in an eco-chamber of yes men.

This is prescisely why both cults and abusive relationships will try to cut you off from your existing social network and immerse you in theirs. When you have connections to people outside the system, especially ones who care about you, you're much more likely to start questioning the bullshit at some point and leave.

In regards to the friend, I have to echo @FreeYourDoodies. Don't try to change them, and try to keep topics off current events or politics if you can. Discussing that stuff in-depth with them right now will probably just make them defensive and angry, and reassure them in their mind that you're One Of Them.

People who leave cults and such usually do so because there's a tiny thread of something that they can't rationalize away that nags at them, and when they start pulling on it, the whole thing eventually unravels. Let your friendship be one of those threads.

 

[MemeGrey]

Dox them and laugh at them with us.


Also:
>FtM
>catboy pin

your friend read too much BL and is paying the price.

 

[Freedom Fries]

@Aaa0aaa0
forgot the most important part, try to steal their T for a cycle for epic gainz

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

It’s the same thing with me, but it’s close friends supporting BLM.
Sure you can’t force them or destroy their life over it, but I’ve noticed most people that join them or Antifa are usually doing this to either look trendy or they’re the type to be undereducated.

Also, don’t believe them when they’re saying “We’re speaking truth to power!” Most of the time, they’re taught to manipulate people by coercing people to accept the truth, no matter how ridiculous it is.