MyPal browser is dead - Licensing spergfest kills browser for Windows XP

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Kot Johansson said:
Funny you'd mention that because someone on GitHub took the "Male Poon" joke one step further.
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Heh, they even added about:mozilla-like easter egg.
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So far it works, but in somewhat broken state, for example, addons page does not load due to some undefined variables in code.
 
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sardonica said:
Mozilla and their politics suck, no argument there, but the fact is they're limping along with an outdated browser engine that is struggling to keep up with Firefox, which itself is struggling to keep up with Chrome. I know the XUL and Flash Player stuff is the main reason they did something this desperate, but that stuff is just increasingly not relevant in 2021. As far as I can tell, they're basically just applying security updates to an old version of Firefox, yelling at websites for using stuff their old Firefox doesn't support, and acting like they've achieved something.

I think deep down they know their project is or soon will be dead in the water because of changing web standards they can't keep up with. They're getting more aggressive about licensing and forks because they have nothing left to lose, and they're going through the five stages of grief. They've been slowly moving from denial to anger and looking for someone to blame. Since they can't take out their frustration on Mozilla or Google, they displace their anger onto a target they think they can hurt, their downstream forks. Gonna be interesting to watch when they hit the bargaining stage.
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Yeah, but that's fine. The simple fact is that if XUL is not relevant anymore, then Pale Moon has no reason to exist. If Flash Player, JAVA, Silverlight, aren't things you need, don't use Pale Moon. That's fine. No point trying to track web 'standards' changes.
 
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Feline Supremacist said:
I'm using it now. It's gotten way shitter since 2019
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Consider SeaMonkey. It's not just Firefox with a different logo, it's a fork of Mozilla Suite / Netscape 7. They are also doing a lot of backports from Firefox Quantum, to the point where they have FF60 ESR's web rendering engine (and as a result is scores higher on https://html5test.com than pale moon) and are trying to add WebExtensions support, along with keeping old XUL add-on support. While native add-on support is fairly small, there is an online add-on converter that makes about 80% of Pale Moon's add-ons work with it.

They also managed to keep its UI pretty much the same since 2002-2006 (although you'll need to install Orthodox theme):
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IamnottheNSA said:
Consider SeaMonkey. It's not just Firefox with a different logo, it's a fork of Mozilla Suite / Netscape 7. They are also doing a lot of backports from Firefox Quantum, to the point where they have FF60 ESR's web rendering engine (and as a result is scores higher on https://html5test.com than pale moon) and are trying to add WebExtensions support, along with keeping old XUL add-on support. While native add-on support is fairly small, there is an online add-on converter that makes about 80% of Pale Moon's add-ons work with it.

They also managed to keep its UI pretty much the same since 2002-2006 (although you'll need to install Orthodox theme):
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Interesting. They have dropped NPAPI support unfortunately, but good to hear about XUL still working.
 
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TL;DR:
moonchild
> always be responsible
> only assfuck people from a moral high ground

feodor2
> fuck this hypocrisy

ron_1
> I'm a brownie point fag

athenian200
> greek philosophy has taught me to assfuck people on principle
> no hard feelings other than the hard-on I get from it

tobin
> shoulda assfucked you sooner so we coulda gotten away with it
> it's all your fault we're in this shit now
> they never woulda caught us assfucking you if you'd kept quiet
> we can be friends if you get them to drop the charges

moonchild
> you weren't interactive enough while we were assfucking you
> very sad that you didn't learn from the experience of getting assfucked
> assfuck is how we bring our ideals into this world
 
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Never Scored said:
I used Pale Moon as my main browser for a stretch of a couple of years. Since early 2020, compatibility with sites has just become more and more broken and I stopped using it.

I don't care if furries made it, I was a decent browser that didn't spy on me, and it was nice to have an option besides Firefox and the slew Chromium based browsers. Too bad it's gone to shit.
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Never Scored said:
If the only Browsers are based on Google's engine, Google gets even more control over the internet. It's nice to have alternatives. Right now with Pale Moon getting shit up, there's basically Firefox and that's it. There are a bunch of webkit browsers which Google forked their engine from years ago, but they're not very good.
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take the chromium pill instead of injecting a furry dewormer
Wally said:
You could do this and Moonchild Productions couldn't stop you. For all their whining about "muh MPL" they haven't even registered "Pale Moon" with the USPTO. Common Law Trademarks only apply to the geographic area of the company. Even then, Moonchild Productions trying to get anyone on Trademark Infringement is laughable because, like defamation, you have to show that you were hurt financially by the infringement and seeing he can't afford a monitor without e-begging, that's unlikely. I highly doubt that Moonchild Productions is even a registered business. View attachment 2539105

The company Tobin claims to be CEO and Owner of, Binary Outcast, does not exist on paper. I am not sure if IN lists Sole Proprietorships on their SOS Business Search, but I think it's likely. View attachment 2539137
Because he isn't registered with the state, his website's MPL's usage of BINARY OUTCAST as if it was a DBA is really funny:View attachment 2539142
Who's Binary Outcast? I only know Matt A. Tobin :^)
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If I were Moonchild Productions I would immediately incorporate to protect from schism. ALL software projects made by autistic people end in some sort of falling out or schism and an LLC owning the Pale Moon software and brand would protect them against this happening and give the developers legal standing to go after people they see as violating "muh MPL" and "muh trademarks."
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What's passing off duh
Wally said:
The Plan9 shill actually believes this is the future of computing:
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With no irony or nostalgia (none of them were Bell employees). They actually believe this is the future. Their operating system doesn't even have a word processor and they believe that's a feature.
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straight outta cowboy bebop universe
 
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My god what a bunch of autistic manchildren. You'd have to worry to use their browser or codebase because browsers are delicate privacy- and security-wise and they are just proving that they're people you cannot trust. I wouldn't put it beyond the developers to somehow sabotage the code if it's used by certain projects they don't approve of. It's exactly the kind of shit they'd pull.
 
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juicerBNR34 said:
are those real moon surface patterns? if they took some nasa photo, added blue color and shadow and now issuing dmcas because muh work when its not even about the picture - thats 10/10
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knowing the furry devs they probably stole it somewhere else, you'd need to figure out the image rights and if they don't own it or have license agreement they're even more on the hook then the forks.
besides, why not just change it to a literal stylized goatse? everybody knows it's not about the moon but someone forking it, remove the infringing part, thus removing any ground to object to the fork and watch them seethe for all eternity.
 
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ZMOT said:
remove the infringing part, thus removing any ground to object to the fork
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That doesn't actually work, because of loopholes in GPLv2 and related licenses (specifically the Mozilla Public License in this case) Once you break the terms of the license, you're unlicensed and there's nothing forcing the project owner ever to "let you back in", as it were. GPLv3 fixes this, but many projects (including the Linux kernel) are not using that license. There are even guys who make a living just by doing licensing shakedowns on companies that make mistakes in GPL compliance.
I posted some cases about this earlier in the thread. It seems like this kind of griefing would be subject to some strict scrutiny if it ever went to trial in court, but when it's just Github jannies dealing with a couple of no-name autists slapfighting, the griefers win.
 
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