Napoleon (2023) - GET HYPE

The whole movie will be decided by the Coup of 18 Brumaire. That scene will decide whether or not the rest of the movie is still worth watching or not.

The scene where Napoleon enters the chamber and to the deputies declares the Constitution dead, dead by the hands of its supposed defenders. You cannot allow this to be ruined and be a good Napoleon movie.
 
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1917 was great and it wasn't current year stuff
Completely different production, entirely different setting, and not as much an appeal to the masses as they're selling this movie as. 1917 was about a microcosm within a specific conflict in comparatively recent history, it's hard to embellish much on that without getting embarrassed for it.
Napoleon was just long enough ago and just distant enough I can see them using this movie to try to put fag politics or have Napoleon have jungle fever or have some moment where he laments the errors of colonialism or something.
 
Completely different production, entirely different setting, and not as much an appeal to the masses as they're selling this movie as. 1917 was about a microcosm within a specific conflict in comparatively recent history, it's hard to embellish much on that without getting embarrassed for it.
Napoleon was just long enough ago and just distant enough I can see them using this movie to try to put fag politics or have Napoleon have jungle fever or have some moment where he laments the errors of colonialism or something.
I'll try to see if they do implement identity politics in the new movie, but so far, I don't see it.
 
I mean you've got shitskins playing the Vicomte de Barras and the Duke of Auerstedt...then again, I guess they're at least passable instead of obnoxiously out of place dark Africans, so maybe they were just shoved in as the token darkies to placate TPTB. Basically best case scenario for any modern movie not made for <10M.

There's nothing to go on in the trailer, but considering Ridley's entire ouvre, I'm 100% sure that Josephine will be the true genius behind Napoleon's strategy, and ignoring her counsel is what will lead to his downfall.

Still, he shoots fights/action scenes better than virtually anyone still around. Even The Last Duel had some well done fight scenes in it. So if nothing else you can at least just skip everything and watch those.
 
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Still, he shoots fights/action scenes better than virtually anyone still around. Even The Last Duel had some well done fight scenes in it. So if nothing else you can at least just skip everything and watch those.
Yea the fight choreography in The Last Duel was great, even though it was still a shitty woke propaganda movie, just being medieval #MeToo bullshit.
 
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Saw the movie today, here’s my review
Positives
  • The battle scenes were well shot and truly captured the gruesomeness of the Napoleonic Wars
  • There was a lot of focus on Napoleon’s general egotism, which helped build up to his defeats in Russia and Waterloo
  • Josephine was well cast and was a great foil to Napoleon’s behaviors
  • Phoenix kept his American accent, but as a stylistic choice, it works as he was Corsican by birth and was known to speak French with a Corsican accent. It helped emphasize how he was an outsider
  • The costuming was great and stayed true to the time period
    • The uniforms in particular stood out just for how many had to be made and how high quality they looked.
  • The prop designers were quite amazing as they had to create so many realistic looking corpses of both horses and humans
  • Makeup and special effects were also well done and the wounds ended up looking very lifelike. Thought it was impressive how they showed a woman with a missing foot right after experiencing one of Napoleon’s cannon shots
Negatives
  • There was this theater scene during the survivor’s ball, where I thought it was too lewd. I understood it was R rated and that Marie Antoinette was disliked, but it could’ve been toned down some. It also took away from the importance of Napoleon meeting Josephine there
  • I wish there was some of his backstory explored more, such as his time as a youth in Corsica, which is what prompted him to join the French military in the first place
  • I think they should’ve showed on screen some of Napoleon’s affairs, as it ended up not showing the dynamic he had with Josephine well enough. The time he is depicted having sex within his marriage, it is shown more out of “duty” to prove Josephine can’t get pregnant rather than his actual sexual urges he experienced while at war
  • It would’ve been nice to see Napoleon actually on his deathbed rather than end credits discussing when he died and what he said
  • I would’ve appreciated some battle scenes being cut shorter to give more time to what Napoleon went through in isolation on both Elba and St. Helena
  • To give build up to Napoleon’s encounter with Duke of Wellington, I think a scene or two on the Peninsular Wars would’ve helped show the viewers what Napoleon was up against
I’ll admit, a lot of these are more nitpicks, but if I were to make a movie on Napoleon, my focuses would vary slightly. It was really cool to see the battles on the big screen though, and if you want lots of war scenes, this movie is great for that.
 
Two of the same threads are active. Weird.

But yes, I'm gonna watch this sometime this weekend as it's part of my weekend watchlist
 
I have never asked for a refund for a film, however, this was my first time. I walked out of the middle of the viewing, as the movie was absolutely boring and lacked a clear direction in every way, shape and form. Glad I got my refund: the theater people were very nice about it.
 
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What a misdirection.

Napoleon? More like "Josephine: Napoleon Story."

Fuck. Kind of angry. This movie truly fucked the real image of Napoleon and what inspired so many to follow him to death despite the vanity and ego.
It's like James Cameron's Titanic. How can you take a famous moment or person in history and turn it into some faggy love story for women? Yeah sure the actual Titanic had 1,500 people brutally drown or freeze to death hopelessly in the ocean. But closet fag twink Leonardo Dicaprio and Kate Winslet are in love and it's so romantic and he dies for her and she always remembers him. Her heart will go on.

Napoleon is basically the same thing. Take Josephine and age her down quite a bit. She's a decade older than Napoleon in real life? Let's instead make her two decades younger and smoking hot in the movie. And also she's five feet tall in real life so instead get an actress who is 5'10" or whatever and just pray that battlefield and army level CGI effects can remove her botox injections in time for reviewer screeners. Get the team that did the dragons for Game of Thrones to hide the botox with some computer effects. Historical accuracy? Fuck that. Let's have Josephine cuck Napoleon at home and he loses his mind and abandons his army. Josephine is dead in 1814 in real life? Fuck that let's have her die in late 1815 because it's more romantic or whatever Ridley Scott was going for.

Also Joaquin Phoenix can't act and has a hideous face.
 
It's like James Cameron's Titanic. How can you take a famous moment or person in history and turn it into some faggy love story for women? Yeah sure the actual Titanic had 1,500 people brutally drown or freeze to death hopelessly in the ocean. But closet fag twink Leonardo Dicaprio and Kate Winslet are in love and it's so romantic and he dies for her and she always remembers him. Her heart will go on.
I think a better comparison would be not just Titanic due to a bullshit love story, but also either United 93, a bullshit 9/11 movie from Bourne director Paul Greengrass by making some bullshit love story about what happened during the terrorist attack on a plane, or Pearl Harbor, a bullshit WW2 drama love story from Michael Bay.
 
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I liked it. It was fine.

Some guy brought his little kid to the movie, which I found funny. I'm sure the kid had a wonderful time watching this very long movie that he couldn't understand at all.
 
What a misdirection.

Napoleon? More like "Josephine: Napoleon Story."

Fuck. Kind of angry. This movie truly fucked the real image of Napoleon and what inspired so many to follow him to death despite the vanity and ego.
Is Joaquin Phoenix miserable for the entire movie or was that just the trailer?
Already feeling pretty mid on the movie after Ridley Scott went on a whole press tour complaining about historians harshing his vibe
 
Is Joaquin Phoenix miserable for the entire movie or was that just the trailer?
That’s pretty much his character in the movie. They really hammer home the contrast between his professional life being successful while his personal life is a mess. Anything that’s not war related, he’s angsty and insecure.

Unrelated, but in the Battle of Waterloo, Napoleon is depicted leading a calvary charge, but Napoleon didn’t lead those, since he was an artillery general. He also had hemorrhoids by 1815, so he couldn’t even mount a horse well by that point.

The movie took a lot of artistic liberties that didn’t even make sense. For instance, Napoleon only figured out his wife couldn’t bare children after his mom proposed he have sex with a fertile 18 year old to see if she got pregnant. In reality, during his time in Egypt, he took up a mistress and she was able to get pregnant and have kids, which led Napoleon to the conclusion much earlier than depicted in the movie.
 
That’s pretty much his character in the movie. They really hammer home the contrast between his professional life being successful while his personal life is a mess. Anything that’s not war related, he’s angsty and insecure.
It's pretty much any of modern day Ridley Scott movies from mid-90s onward. Trying too hard to be "deep."
 
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