Science NASA propose giant magnet shield for Mars - Claim Mars can gain half the air pressure of Earth in years.

https://www.sciencealert.com/nasa-wants-to-launch-a-giant-magnetic-shield-to-make-mars-habitable

So crazy, it just might work.

PETER DOCKRILL
6 MAR 2017

NASA scientists have proposed a bold plan that could give Mars its atmosphere back and make the Red Planet habitable for future generations of human colonists.

By launching a giant magnetic shield into space to protect Mars from solar winds, the space agency says we could restore the Red Planet's atmosphere, and terraform the Martian environment so that liquid water flows on the surface once again.

Mars may seem like a cold, arid wasteland these days, but the Red Planet is thought to have once had a thick atmosphere that could have maintained deep oceans filled with liquid water, and a warmer, potentially habitable climate.

Scientists think Mars lost all of this when its protective magnetic field collapsed billions of years ago, and solar wind – high-energy particles projected from the Sun – has been stripping the Red Planet's atmosphere away ever since.

Now, new simulations by NASA suggest there could be a way to naturally give Mars its thick atmosphere back – and it doesn't require nuking the Red Planet into submission, as Elon Musk once proposed.

Instead, the space agency thinks a powerful-enough magnetic shield launched into space could serve as a replacement for Mars's own lost magnetosphere, giving the planet a chance to naturally restore its own atmosphere.

In new findings presented at the Planetary Science Vision 2050 Workshop last week, NASA's Planetary Science Division director, Jim Green, said launching an "artificial magnetosphere" into space between Mars and the Sun could hypothetically shield the Red Planet in the extended magnetotail that trails behind the protective field.


"This situation then eliminates many of the solar wind erosion processes that occur with the planet's ionosphere and upper atmosphere allowing the Martian atmosphere to grow in pressure and temperature over time," the researchers explain in an accompanying paper.

While the team acknowledges that the concept might sound "fanciful", they point to existing miniature magnetosphere research being conducted to protect astronauts and spacecraft from cosmic radiation, and think that the same technology on a larger scale could be used to shield Mars.

"It may be feasible that we can get up to these higher field strengths that are necessary to provide that shielding," Green said in his presentation.

"We need to be able then to also modify that direction of the magnetic field so that it always pushes the solar wind away."

In the team's simulations, if the solar wind were counteracted by the magnetic shield, Mars's atmospheric losses would stop, and the atmosphere would regain as much as half the atmospheric pressure of Earth in a matter of years.

As the atmosphere becomes thicker, the team estimates Mars's climate would become around 4 degrees Celsius (7.2 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer, which would be enough to melt carbon dioxide ice over the Red Planet's northern polar cap.

If this happened, the carbon in the atmosphere would help to trap heat like it does on Earth, triggering a greenhouse effect that could melt Mars's water ice, giving the Red Planet back its liquid water in the form of flowing rivers and oceans.

If all of this were to occur as the team anticipates – and admittedly, that's a pretty fantastical if – it's possible that, within the space of a couple of generations, Mars could regain some of its lost Earth-like habitability.

"This is not terraforming as you may think of it where we actually artificially change the climate, but we let nature do it, and we do that based on the physics we know today," Green said.

The team acknowledges that the plan is largely hypothetical at this point, but it's a pretty amazing vision for what might be possible in the years ahead. The researchers intend to keep studying the possibilities to get a more accurate estimate of how long the climate-altering effects would take.

If the concept does prove workable, there's no telling just how much it would alter the prospects of colonising Mars in the future.

"Much like Earth, an enhanced atmosphere would: allow larger landed mass of equipment to the surface, shield against most cosmic and solar particle radiation, extend the ability for oxygen extraction, and provide 'open air' green-houses to exist for plant production, just to name a few," the researchers explain.

"If this can be achieved in a lifetime, the colonisation of Mars would not be far away."

The findings were presented at the Planetary Science Vision 2050 Workshop.
 
I'm going to be honest. I'm still pretty fuzzy on the details on how exactly they plan to give Mars a magnetic field. Do they want to send up an array of satellites that generate a magnetic field or do they have something better in mind? Because no matter how you look at it, they're still trying to shield an entire planet with an artificial magnetic field and the material and power requirements would be astronomical.
 
I only skimmed through it, but I think I understand it now:

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There's a fuckload of 'what ifs' about this, though. Mars isn't Earth. Even if they manage to get some sort of atmosphere back and get water flowing again on Mars, there's no telling how the planet would react to that. There could be bacteria and other things harmful to human life that we have no idea about there, and no idea of how to deal with. We still don't fully understand how our own atmosphere and weather systems affect the earth, so predicting it, never mind working with it on another planet will be very, very difficult.

It's an amazing idea, though. I'd love to see it happen. Cue sci-fi stuff about Martian people rebelling against earth and claiming independence etc.
 
I'll be very blunt about this entire endeavor . The relative cost of building an airtight underground city on Mars versus trying to give the whole planet an atmosphere is laughably disproportionate. This concept perfectly demonstrates what a pipe dream is. It's a fantastic idea that sounds great on paper until you begin to ask yourself how hard and costly it's going to be to pull off. This project is basically another Alcubierre drive. Sure, it's nice to think that FTL travel is possible and perhaps it even is, but the energy costs are incredible and it requires technology far beyond what currently exists.
 
This would be an incredibly expensive and possibly impractical endeavor, but if it works it would make it easier to eventually terraform Mars. The biggest hurdle to modifying the planet is getting the atmosphere thick enough to maintain heat and protect the surface from the solar wind. This is exactly the kind of project you want an Elon Musk kind of guy pouring money into.

Why does Mars get all the love, why not Venus. It's closer, has a more protective atmosphere, was the destination of 'The Final Countdown' by Europe. The girl don't get no respect

The surface of Venus is best described as literally hell; the atmospheric pressure is equivalent to being on the ocean floor, it rains sulfuric acid, and the surface is hot enough to have rivers of molten lead. Even if you could find a way to remove the excess carbon from the atmosphere and get the temperature to a more reasonable level, there are many more problems you have to deal with. For one, there is likely very little or no water on Venus and no available hydrogen to produce water. Your next issue is that Venus has an extremely fucked up axis and rotation from something large (possibly its moon) impacting the planet billions of years ago. The planet doesn't have seasons and it rotates so slowly that night lasts two months.

Mars, by comparison, already has most of the components needed to be habitable easily (relatively) available and has a day only slightly shorter than earth's. As insane as it sounds, if you're trying to make a planet inhabitable by humans in the next hundred years, building an artificial magnetic field for Mars is far more practical than trying to make Venus tolerable.
 
Sure, it's nice to think that FTL travel is possible and perhaps it even is, but the energy costs are incredible and it requires technology far beyond what currently exists.

They're not really talking about creating an entire magnetosphere, but simply interposing some large object between Mars and the Sun that deflects the solar wind. That's a lot more manageable of a project.

It isn't really the same thing as FTL which is basically impossible, at least at present. This would simply be rather tricky. The question is more whether there's actually enough raw material left that if the solar wind stopped blowing away the atmosphere, it would accumulate like they're speculating it would.
 
Mars, by comparison, already has most of the components needed to be habitable easily (relatively) available and has a day only slightly shorter than earth's. As insane as it sounds, if you're trying to make a planet inhabitable by humans in the next hundred years, building an artificial magnetic field for Mars is far more practical than trying to make Venus tolerable.
I'm just suspicious that everyone thinks the first planet we'll colonize is Mars. I'm wary of contrarian indicators, and that other more habitable moons or planets are ignored.

It was also all an excuse to make the Final Countdown joke.
 
I'm just suspicious that everyone thinks the first planet we'll colonize is Mars. I'm wary of contrarian indicators, and that other more habitable moons or planets are ignored.

It was also all an excuse to make the Final Countdown joke.

Well it makes sense, as other potentially habitable planets and moons are further out. Mars is a foothold to Titan as the Moon is likely going to be a foothold to Mars.
 
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