NASCAR Discussion - Sperg out about four left turns here

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Roger Penske being a likable person challenge (impossible)
Reminds me of a certain someone... Joey Logano? But except the thing is, at least Logano outside of the race is more of a chill dude than Penske, so honestly that's an unfair comparison.
 
I have mixed feelings about Fontana. I have some good memories of CART going there but also very bad ones.
The very bad one must be the tragic death of Greg Moore. What an amazing talent that was never fully realized due to that fatal accident. I was never a fan of Fontana, ever.
 
I like it when the cars go fast and I like when they make a left turn
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Bubba Wallace pole at Michigan. Reddit and Twitter gloating. Of course, it has nothing to do with the fact that 5 out of the top 10 cars are Toyotas, and the 6th is in 11th with a replacement driver. Just total driver skill, of course.

I would like to remind them that Danica Patrick won a pole once, but most Bubba nuthuggers got into the sport at noosegate and genuinely don't remember her.
 
I didn't know there was a NASCAR thread here until all too recently, so I've missed on plenty of opportunity to sperg out.

NASCAR was one of the main things I bonded with my grandpa over, one of my earliest vivid memories is watching the Bristol night race were Dale dumped Terry Labonte for the win, I was so pissed because that was my guy. I eventually fell off from watching around 2005 or so as the cars started looking more silly and less like the name on the stickers, which got worse with the car of tomorrow. I got curious again around 2018 and got bit hard, and hardly missed a race since. I was already fully invested but when COVID came and isolated everybody, NASCAR being just about the only sport going at the time virtually, and then being the first sport back to playing in person was a good comfort. Then of course My namesake got in trouble for saying Nigger even though he was a good boy who didn't do nothing. When I registered I picked the name because I wanted to stand in solidarity with N-word sayers around the world. Then it was announced that the 5 would be returning with Larson behind the wheel I was all in, and he followed it up with an all-time dominant season to the tears of redditors all year long, genuinely one of the best times to be watching the sport for me.

Personally, I think for the majority of what NASCAR has been doing the past couple of years they've been on fire. The new cars have been putting on incredible races and the schedule is exciting. I really think it's got potential for a lot of organic growth over the next 5+ years. Even the street race is a good idea on paper, I've got little faith in the execution but the idea to add a street race in and of itself I can't hate.

NASCAR as a brand though is making huge strides to kneecap their progress though. There's things like the forward number placement being a sin, but really the racing has been good enough to excuse it. The real ballbuster is all the kowtowing that has been done to BLM and the fags in direct opposition to their audience. Redditors and even NASCAR themselves seem to think it's a priority to "distance" themselves from the stereotypes of NASCAR and fans, and that naturally means sucking gay black cock when the core fanbase is more conservative than any sport in America. You would think NASCAR of all sports would have learned a thing or two about pushing core fans away for a national audience after the 2000s, after huge organic growth from the rednecks it's been trying to push away no less.

I'm all for more people getting into NASCAR but there is this mentality that fans must be actively catered to, and it's unreasonable to ask someone to meet a hobby, sport etc. at its own level. Redditors will be embarrassed to admit they like NASCAR because of stereotypes associated with NASCAR, because liking something is an issue of identity to them. If they watch NASCAR, they might *become* the stereotype. The though isn't "this is cool, I'll watch this" but instead "this is cool, I want to watch it, but is it okay to watch/what will my friends think of me watching it?" I've been to a few races over the past couple years and the crowd does look like a Walmart's Greatest Hits album, but I had a good time and that's all anyone I ever saw was concerned with.

All NASCAR has to do to distance itself from whatever issues it has as far as perception is concerned is to just not actively be playing into them, no declarations of BLM or pride flags on racecars necessary. I promise, the people on Twitter or Reddit aren't going to be any more open to the idea of watching NASCAR until it resembles nothing of what made it big in the first place. And I would much rather NASCAR be a regional brand and be the only one I know watching than have it shed everything that makes it unique and put it where it is on the first place to chase after the coveted casual fan.


As an aside, the Indy RC was a complete farce and that race needs to be run on the oval or not at all. The fact that missing Turn 1 entirely (either by Bubba taking and keeping 10 positions through the grass or the Chastain "just run the oval instead" maneuver) emerged as a tactic at all was an embarrassment to motorsport and the most WWE I've seen NASCAR be in a very long time.
 
Apparently the big buzz is that "there are drivers from 7 different countries at Watkins Glen!"

Of course 4 of them are ringers in shitboxes, but it's a total clown move to try and posture as international when you can barely keep fans in your own country...
 
Casually strolls back in

So, how about that Daytona?
 
This is our annual reminder that the playoffs are dumb.
They fucking are. I don't know why people like them so much. Yeah it keeps the season 'interesting' to the end, but basically reducing the rest of the season to 'be in Phoenix and don't have a bad day' is really really shitty.

Again, like everything else it's all about being fans of drivers and 'spectacle', not racing. There are few racing series not going towards personality cults and manufactured excitement, though, NASCAR is just the worst.
 
They fucking are. I don't know why people like them so much. Yeah it keeps the season 'interesting' to the end, but basically reducing the rest of the season to 'be in Phoenix and don't have a bad day' is really really shitty.

Again, like everything else it's all about being fans of drivers and 'spectacle', not racing. There are few racing series not going towards personality cults and manufactured excitement, though, NASCAR is just the worst.
There's an account on Instagram that tabulated all the points if the format never changed in 2004 and shows who would have won championships from then till now. I think Gordon ended up being the 7 time and not Jimmie.

But their standings for this year are so telling. Truex and Blaney would be in the top 10 from consistency but in the playoffs system they're out.

This was after the Glen
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There's an account on Instagram that tabulated all the points if the format never changed in 2004 and shows who would have won championships from then till now. I think Gordon ended up being the 7 time and not Jimmie.

But their standings for this year are so telling. Truex and Blaney would be in the top 10 from consistency but in the playoffs system they're out.

This was after the GlenView attachment 3655755
Got a link? My dad's been wondering if someone's been doing this for years. :D
 
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