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I'd never believed that Mayfield was innocent
 
Ryan Blaney saves us from a Bubba Wallace victory. :semperfidelis:
Congrats to Bubba Wallace for taking himself out with an ill-timed late block. Seems like he picked up the right things from Cousin Carl when he was at Roush.

Also congrats to Fox for showing us the Bubba Wallace Seethe Cam Part 2. I think this is the third or fourth time Nascar, Toyota, and various others have tried to give Bubba every advantage possible to own the chuds and he still fucked it up. Unlike Dale Earnhardt failing to win at Daytona, which was sad, watching Bubba fail to win at Dega is funny because no one actually likes the guy. I can't wait until another driver who's higher on the progressive totem pole gets a ride in the Cup Series and all the redditors drop Bubba like a hot potato. They're already sticking the camera on Rajah Caruth running 20th every few minutes in the truck series.
 
How often does Bubba manage to fuck himself over?
 
How often does Bubba manage to fuck himself over?
Well this time, he didn't have a spergout at least, trying to fight Kyle Larson and getting into a shoving match with officials.

To this day, I will never understand why NASCAR just suspended him for a single race. Not even giving the fucker a fine or dock driver points.

I can't wait until another driver who's higher on the progressive totem pole gets a ride in the Cup Series and all the redditors drop Bubba like a hot potato.
Probably another hood ornament from the "Drive For Diverty" program.

Picture this, a black woman! She'd be the sacred love child of Danica Patrick and Bubba. Double points if she's trans like
Charlie Christina Martin of Britcar fame.

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Well this time, he didn't have a spergout at least, trying to fight Kyle Larson and getting into a shoving match with officials.

To this day, I will never understand why NASCAR just suspended him for a single race. Not even giving the fucker a fine or dock driver points.
Bubba Wallace can't keep getting away with it. Not kidding either.
 
Well this time, he didn't have a spergout at least, trying to fight Kyle Larson and getting into a shoving match with officials.

To this day, I will never understand why NASCAR just suspended him for a single race. Not even giving the fucker a fine or dock driver points.


Probably another hood ornament from the "Drive For Diverty" program.

Picture this, a black woman! She'd be the sacred love child of Danica Patrick and Bubba. Double points if she's trans like
Charlie Christina Martin of Britcar fame.

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Because they are afraid to be called racist
 
I'd never believed that Mayfield was innocent

I think Brian France can be a lying shitty drunk and Mayfield can also be a tweaker. I think guys like Slap really alog Brian not for any reality based reason (of which there are plenty) but because he sued the Drunk Brian France Twitter guy.

Bubba Wallace can't keep getting away with it. Not kidding either.
The question is how long can Phelps get away with it. Bubba can get away with it as long as Steve can put his thumb on the scales - and leave the unsaid implication that the ton'o'bricks will fall on anyone who points that out. If the first year pop of nextgen keeps fading...

I take back what I said about Rajah too. His pretty good performance in ARCA fell on its face in the trucks.
 
NASCAR got too safe by every passing decade, and the early-2000s was the final nail in the coffin follwing Earnhardt Sr.'s tragic death.
The irony is that the current car is known to be rather dangerous with overheating and causing concussions. Granted, it's still super early in the Next Gen car's life but it is kinda interesting to me.

That aside, I do agree. Part of the allure of the olden days was the thrill of knowing how dangerous the sport was and watching in awe people race anyway.

On one hand, good that the sport is getting safer. It keeps the tragedy away. On the other, it takes some of the thrill away. which is honest but super morbid.
 
The discussion around NASCAR and safety is and always has been, weird. Plate racing fixed one problem and created another, possibly bigger problem, but everyone on the money side likes The Big One so nobody wants to fix that.

My disgruntlement with "NASCAR Media" really reached an apex last year when the drivers were coming close to open revolt over how bad the new car's safety is. First they covered up the really bad crash test (nobody can tell me after last year it was an 'instrument failure') and then when the drivers confronted the beardo that pseudo-designed the car he literally cried about "You think we don't care" and that was the news story for days. How those mean drivers made that poor guy cry. Sort of wish one of them would've said "Yeah, well he's not the one gettin' killed out here so I'll trade him." And they drug the changes on and on until they made it a 'next year thing, whatever'.

Every other form of racing has gotten massively safer. This car should've been safer and somehow they fucked that up. I really don't get it.
 
Every other form of racing has gotten massively safer. This car should've been safer and somehow they fucked that up. I really don't get it.
NASCAR might as well be the Galapagos Islands when it comes to it's isolation from all other motorsports. Nothing else exists outside their system in their eyes.
 
NASCAR might as well be the Galapagos Islands when it comes to it's isolation from all other motorsports. Nothing else exists outside their system in their eyes.
But what about Formula 1?
 
NASCAR might as well be the Galapagos Islands when it comes to it's isolation from all other motorsports. Nothing else exists outside their system in their eyes.
Yeah but Dallara had something to do with the nextgen car. I suspect 'a lot' with how hushed up they keep it, but I refuse to believe that soy beardo did it himself (except the safety problems, I believe that).

(And now an xtrac trans and BBS wheels. It was funny when the first wheel modification scandal happened to see an official NASCAR edict come on BBS letterhead complete with "Technik aus dem Motorsport". The single lug wheels are weirdly one of the things that bothers me the most about the car.)
 
The discussion around NASCAR and safety is and always has been, weird. Plate racing fixed one problem and created another, possibly bigger problem, but everyone on the money side likes The Big One so nobody wants to fix that.
Increased safety in racing is always a double-edged sword. Obviously, no one wants drivers to be at regular risk of death, but I feel like the increased safety of the Gen-5 and 6 was one of the major factors that led to drivers racing each other ridiculously hard and driving like idiots because they didn't have to worry about hurting themselves and others due to a bad move or block. The other factor is that young drivers aren't having to grow up spending hours fixing their own midgets/sprints/late models after wrecking anymore because either a) Daddy is paying for someone else to do it or b) they're on IRacing where all they need to do is quit and restart.

If there's one silver lining to the Gen-7 being so unsafe, it's that maybe drivers will learn to race each other with a little more respect instead of just piledriving each other out of the way like we've seen happen in the past- but judging by the yearly COTA pileup, the Big Ones being as big as ever, and Chimpgate, that's not happening. I can only pray Dallara fixes the problems before someone actually does get badly hurt. A stock car hitting the outside wall at Texas should not leave its driver injured worse than an open-wheel car doing the exact same thing.

Well this time, he didn't have a spergout at least, trying to fight Kyle Larson and getting into a shoving match with officials.

To this day, I will never understand why NASCAR just suspended him for a single race. Not even giving the fucker a fine or dock driver points.
It's totally baffling considering that the wreck also took out Bell and could have taken him out of the next round of the "playoffs" through no fault of his own. One thing Nascar has been clear on for the past decade is that they don't want drivers outside of the playoffs messing with ones who are in. Matt Kenseth wrecked Logano at Martinsville going 50 mph and they not only suspended him 2 races, but changed the rules so that nothing like that could ever happen again. My tinfoil hat theory is that Nascar wasn't originally going to punish Bubba at all, but they saw the outcry from everyone watching (especially the redditors and social media addicts who usually support Bubba and corporate Nascar) and had to do something, so they slapped him on the wrist to make it look like they were being fair.
The question is how long can Phelps get away with it. Bubba can get away with it as long as Steve can put his thumb on the scales - and leave the unsaid implication that the ton'o'bricks will fall on anyone who points that out.
Ding ding ding.
 
Increased safety in racing is always a double-edged sword.
Good point. I've felt this since I started watching Cup again. See also the resurgance last year of 'this car hurts people' which was notable around the Bubba suspension. And speaking of which..

Matt Kenseth wrecked Logano at Martinsville
You're quite right but from a certain perspective that was a (little) different. "He wrecked me, so I wrecked him back" is a bit more understandable than coming back out of the pits (IIRC) to turn your car into a Joey-seeking missile. Even if, like I said at the time, Bubba was way out of line.

There is no organic force that will push Bubba out. Even if he was backmarker trash (which I think he's trash but he's not even the worst currently in cup), he'd skate by being basically a pay driver. Look at the sponsorship on that car, everything from McD's to Doordash (omg tech moooneyyyyy) to Leidos, who are literally Glownigger and Glownigstien, LLC.
 
They do at least recognize that other things exist, even if they view everything else as beneath them.
Well they are classy.
Good point. I've felt this since I started watching Cup again. See also the resurgance last year of 'this car hurts people' which was notable around the Bubba suspension. And speaking of which..
Yea, last year was very interesting what with the whole statement of cars hurting people and having improved the stock cars technology wise to spite Bubba.
 
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