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Joey and Reddick made it. I bet Denny is gonna loose at Martensville like every year. It should be a holiday at this point.
 
Ty Majeski won the Truck race & the championship yesterday and it wasn't a disaster like last year. Good on him, but man the Playoff system has cucked Christian Eckes so hard this year. Dude had finished outside of the top 10 only one race out of the whole season, won 4 of 'em, only has 3rd in the overall standings to show for it. Think he would've had the championship by a mile under a normal points system.

And tonight, Justin Allgaier finally gets himself an Xfinity championship. 2nd in the race behind Riley Herbst, who he let by in the final corner probably because otherwise he risked getting wrecked by the guy who dominated the race for the most part and whose team doesn't exist after this year. Unfortunately had to get through a few dumb cautions to get there, and that may have screwed Cole Custer's gameplan a bit, but man did Allgaier drive his ass off after putting himself two laps down for no reason late in the race. (Also worth a note, Chandler Smith would've won this championship under the Winston points system.)

Cup tomorrow. The potential for funny shit still awaits.
 
Wright said:
Ty Majeski won the Truck race & the championship yesterday and it wasn't a disaster like last year. Good on him, but man the Playoff system has cucked Christian Eckes so hard this year. Dude had finished outside of the top 10 only one race out of the whole season, won 4 of 'em, only has 3rd in the overall standings to show for it. Think he would've had the championship by a mile under a normal points system.

And tonight, Justin Allgaier finally gets himself an Xfinity championship. 2nd in the race behind Riley Herbst, who he let by in the final corner probably because otherwise he risked getting wrecked by the guy who dominated the race for the most part and whose team doesn't exist after this year. Unfortunately had to get through a few dumb cautions to get there, and that may have screwed Cole Custer's gameplan a bit, but man did Allgaier drive his ass off after putting himself two laps down for no reason late in the race. (Also worth a note, Chandler Smith would've won this championship under the Winston points system.)

Cup tomorrow. The potential for funny shit still awaits.
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Last night was a purely dominant performance. Tonight's was an epic slog back from mostly self-inflicted errors. Great stuff.

And Zilisch in with a top 5. That kid's going to be huge.
 
Serbian Peacekeepers said:
Calling it now, Joey either gets a third championship or he doesn't finish in the top 10.
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All I know there is going to be a lot of seething after the final call of the race that is for sure. It will be probably some dumb overtime rule.

Update: Alright, not even 10 laps and ty gibbs took himself out. Gee I hope this doesn't become a trend at the middle-end of this race.
 
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I am beside myself with how fucked this playoff format is. It always has been, but it spared us from a truly absurd champion until this point. I'm convinced that this was one of NASCAR's best seasons for average race quality, and it ended on a big ol shart.

I feel like you could fix the entire thing by only doing away with the idea of a winner take all championship race, which is precisely why I think they'll come up with something more retarded instead.
 
For amusements' sake and a bit of talking point, the oldschool standings for this season, as always from nwcs_standings on Twitter.

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Why don't they bring back the points system? The only people watching are racing fans anyway. It was more popular like that anyway if they are trying (and failing) to garner attention from non-racing fans. This year just proves how fucked the """playoff""" system is and it doesn't really add to the excitement. I don't know, I feel like a broken record asking why NASCAR makes dumbass decisions.
 
Boss Hawg said:
Why don't they bring back the points system? The only people watching are racing fans anyway. It was more popular like that anyway if they are trying (and failing) to garner attention from non-racing fans. This year just proves how fucked the """playoff""" system is and it doesn't really add to the excitement. I don't know, I feel like a broken record asking why NASCAR makes dumbass decisions.
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Business and retard 'fans' who want excitin' stuff.

The business side is mostly for the tracks and TV, and is a huge reason why nobody in the media ever says a peep against the system, especially not to suggest the old system come back. It ensures that every race 'matters' for purposes of the championship and then you don't have to deal with the late season TV package maybe being worth less due to a couple of 'pointless races' or tracks not wanting to be the last race for the same reason.
 
Mikoyan said:
Business and retard 'fans' who want excitin' stuff.

The business side is mostly for the tracks and TV, and is a huge reason why nobody in the media ever says a peep against the system, especially not to suggest the old system come back. It ensures that every race 'matters' for purposes of the championship and then you don't have to deal with the late season TV package maybe being worth less due to a couple of 'pointless races' or tracks not wanting to be the last race for the same reason.
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I don't know, I just feel like whoever said, "These ain't like the championships Dale and Richard won". (or however that quote goes)
 
Boss Hawg said:
I don't know, I just feel like whoever said, "These ain't like the championships Dale and Richard won". (or however that quote goes)
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The Frances care about two things. Control first, money second. You might think I have that backwards, but I think they know... Or believe at least that control makes money. Everything they touch, charters, the playoff system, track ownership... It all increases their already incredible hold on American racing.

Consider the seemingly minor issue of 'playoff eligibility'. We saw it twice this year. Do something the family doesn't like? Miss a race? You'll get your waiver held over you for weeks or flat out denied. This system gives them unprecedented tools to enforce their will on the field. That system doesn't make sense with straight points, so why would they go back to it?
 
Mikoyan said:
That system doesn't make sense with straight points, so why would they go back to it?
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It's just a damn shame that ego and whatnot have to bring the product down. Higher ups meddling and 'fixing' things to their liking is a tale as old as entertainment/sports have been around.
 
Boss Hawg said:
It's just a damn shame that ego and whatnot have to bring the product down. Higher ups meddling and 'fixing' things to their liking is a tale as old as entertainment/sports have been around.
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I wonder how the next generation of drives we will see act like entitled pricks because they had everything given to them. How many pieces of sliced bread would we see.
 
Medic said:
I wonder how the next generation of drives we will see act like entitled pricks because they had everything given to them. How many pieces of sliced bread would we see.
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The next generation? It's rampant among the younger members of the current one.
 
The Famed number 8 is coming back to the NASCAR Xfinity series in 2025, with JR Motorsports fielding their new car driven by Sammy Smith.

A follow up tweet from JR Motorsports hints at a sponsor reveal tomorrow.
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Given Budweiser's still close ties to Jr and the fact last month they sponsored the Bud 8's return to racing at Florence Motor Speedway, we might see the Bud 8 ripping around Daytona once again.
 
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