NeoGAF & ResetERA - The Hilarious N̶e̶v̶e̶r̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ Splintering "Gaming" Forum Circus

[CharlesBarkley]

Huh. You think tankies and vidya wouldn't mix or whatever... considering video games are pretty much a ultimate symbol of needless capitalistic hedonism.

Protected class tranny posters just actively ignoring tranny mod because they know they can just endlessly shitpost and actively antagonize other posters.
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It must be sad after like ten months of some thirst dude pm'in this nigga, plane tickets are bought and when he opens the door it's a 35 year old fat balding man in a my little pony dress.

 

[CrunkLord420]

Don't derail the thread, fucko. We have a zero tolerance for that type of bad faith behavior: https://www.resetera.com/threads/eras-woman-problem-read-op.57534/page-34

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Slide into my DMs you silly boys tee-hee~~~

 

[Stock Image Photographer]

That top post there is some rapey incel shit. No one's going to call it out because "muh troons" though

 

[CrunkLord420]

new feature: ban lengths https://resetera.kiwifarms.net/graphs

EDIT: I already fixed the ordering of the bars, it'll be included in next code deployment.

 

[NotoriousD]

new feature: ban lengths https://resetera.kiwifarms.net/graphs
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EDIT: I already fixed the ordering of the bars, it'll be included in next code deployment.

You're doing God's work, CrunkLord. I have been really enjoying the shitshows lately with these guys.

 

[CrunkLord420]

What a weird ban. You'd think you could just lock the thread.
But also, what a weird thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/self-improvement-may-be-saving-my-marriage.57429/

 

[Feline Darkmage]

The New Member Introductions thread on GAF has a bunch of people in it complaining about getting perm bans on ReeeeEra. It's only about 8 pages so its an easy scroll through just skim and see how many there are.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/the-official-neogaf-introduce-yourself-thread.1460728/

 

[CrunkLord420]

Saw another one of Hecht's patented "Don't do this" posts on the bot, but he deleted it. This is the first time I've noticed something deleted. Maybe I should run a check on old posts and see which ones have been deleted. https://archive.fo/VSY6R

 

[Next Task]

I've seen this happen in other lefty echo chambers. Someone decides that the fact that they've ever seen someone disagree with them means 'minorities aren't safe here', and all of a sudden an aggressively progressive space is the equivalent of Stormfront. And yet the pearl-clutchers get all defensive and fighty if someone dares to question their narrative, or try and say 'No, we're actually not that bad.'

It also causes a bind for the mods, which is funny considering how bad they are. Because it's an overt criticism of how they are running things, but they have to treat it as valid and kowtow to the complainers because otherwise they're proving their point for them. It also means they're having to cede some of their power to the users, otherwise they get REEEEEEd at and treated as traitors - not acknowledging that by having any authority they will always be subject to being attacked for not having the right values.

The most effective way to deal with it also runs counter to their idea of being fair and balanced mods, because it is to warn/ban the complaining users and say 'We're doing our best, we think that's actually pretty good, if you don't like it you don't have to post here.' But that wouldn't be listening and believing, that wouldn't be 'supportive of minorities', and that wouldn't prize the user-identities they claim to think are the most important.

And so, through screeching, purity testing and demanding some people's feelings be treated as more important than anyone else's, instead of a handful of loud assholes making a public spectacle about how the forum isn't woke enough for them and flouncing off, dozens of more rational posters will just decide that there's no point coming back to the forum and just stop visiting.

And so the hugbox gets tighter and tighter.

 

[CrunkLord420]

excelsiorlef is still talking about how straight men are transphobic because they don't want to sleep with someone who was named Joe 2 years ago. Also pushing hard for that diversity consultant meme of "pay me to educate you" when people are simply trying to understand your position. It's all very disingenuous, or maybe even bad faith: https://www.resetera.com/threads/eras-woman-problem-read-op.57534/page-37

 

[Next Task]

God I hate the 'it's not my job to educate you/fuck you pay me' mindset of people like this and Nora Reed. It's such a condescending brush-off, and usually vastly overrates the value of their time, contributions and level of information.

If you're actually interested in changing someone's mind or informing them about something, you answer their questions. If you're only interested in hating on people or acting superior while insulting someone, you dismiss them like this - which means you've not only turned off someone who you could have perhaps persuaded to see your point of view, but if they do go and look up stuff on their own, there's absolutely no guarantee their information source won't contradict everything you're trying to get them to believe.

I bet they'd be pissed if the person decided to look stuff up on their own and followed a link to the Farms to learn more. But it would be entirely their fault for being an asshole.

 

[FalsePositive]

Pay me to indoctrinate you on how I'm actually normal.
t. mentally ill faggot

 

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God I hate the 'it's not my job to educate you/fuck you pay me' mindset of people like this and Nora Reed. It's such a condescending brush-off, and usually vastly overrates the value of their time, contributions and level of information.

If you're actually interested in changing someone's mind or informing them about something, you answer their questions. If you're only interested in hating on people or acting superior while insulting someone, you dismiss them like this - which means you've not only turned off someone who you could have perhaps persuaded to see your point of view, but if they do go and look up stuff on their own, there's absolutely no guarantee their information source won't contradict everything you're trying to get them to believe.

Yeah. That's the whole point of an argument--to show the other party why your position is better, and you do so by presenting your points while acknowledging and addressing each of your opponent's points as well. If you tell the person that you refuse to elaborate your stance, then you are not demonstrating the superiority of your position and so, by extension, you have effectively lost the argument.

Imagine it from the perspective of a third person. If two friends were trying to convince you about what to do for the day, and one of them says "we should see a movie, and I refuse to explain why," and the other actually presents the reasons why you should go to a restaurant instead, you're not really going to be convinced by the former, are you? In addition, this demonstrates their disingenuity, because somebody who actually felt strongly for their position would be interested in explaining it to another person, and furthermore would also not want to present their position in a way that makes it appear indefensible by refusing to explain it.

Whenever somebody shuts down the discussion by this, either by refusing to continue or just banning the opponent, it doesn't demonstrate that the other person is "arguing in bad faith," it shows that these people are afraid of being proven wrong.

 

[Dogs can't look up]

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We and ResetEra seem to agree that this guy is wrong for different reasons. We would say that RE is not open and accepting because it instantly bans anyone not toeing the party line, while ResetEra users in the thread are saying that this guy is wrong because the site is apparently a den of misogyny and racism.

If you're constantly looking for misogyny and racism, you'll eventually start seeing it everywhere.

Edit: excelsiorlef should have been banned for antagonizing other users, aggressive posts, and arguing in bad faith. Hell, he put on a clinic on using those discussing techniques in the last few threads we've discussed.

 

[Emperor Julian]

If you're talking ideology, then you really should actually want people to relate to you and agree with your perspective. You have an invested interest in it, not just with your opponent but with anyone watching. It may not be my duty to educate you but if I have any sense of self-interest I certainly will.

And frankly it is my duty, I have a moral obligation to try and make the world less of a shit hole.

 

[Munchingonfish]

If the moderators weren't immensely autistic I'd think they've got a sense of humor.

 

[Denmark Mafia]

excelsiorlef is still talking about how straight men are transphobic because they don't want to sleep with someone who was named Joe 2 years ago. Also pushing hard for that diversity consultant meme of "pay me to educate you" when people are simply trying to understand your position. It's all very disingenuous, or maybe even bad faith: https://www.resetera.com/threads/eras-woman-problem-read-op.57534/page-37
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I fucking love excelsiorlef so much. Everything about him is exceptional. It doesn't get much more condescending and overall toxic on the internet than that.

 

[JuanLee]

Man joins internet discussion forum. Blocks the only person generating a contrary viewpoint. From a Brexit thread.

Echo chamber much?

https://www.resetera.com/posts/10727141/

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

They're not really helping their own case, are they? The issue isn't exclusive to NeoGAF, not by a long shot, but they're the perfect example.

If everything you do gets you called a racist, homophobic, transphobic, heteronormative shitlord, eventually you'll just stop caring when people call you those things. And if you cross the line into saying or doing genuinely bigoted, the words won't have any effect to shame you anymore.

... wait. Is NeoGAF some kind of alt-right 7D quadruple chess bluff?

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

They're not really helping their own case, are they? The issue isn't exclusive to NeoGAF, not by a long shot, but they're the perfect example.

If everything you do gets you called a racist, homophobic, transphobic, heteronormative shitlord, eventually you'll just stop caring when people call you those things. And if you cross the line into saying or doing genuinely bigoted, the words won't have any effect to shame you anymore.

... wait. Is NeoGAF some kind of alt-right 7D quadruple chess bluff?

Hell, I guess I've seen weirder shit online. I still remember 'Doctor' Gene Ray and Timecube, after all.

But you're correct. That's the danger the idiot left has courted with their excessive use of buzzword accusations to shut down discussion. Eventually, people just get tired of talking, and say, 'Fuck it'.