NeoGAF & ResetERA - The Hilarious N̶e̶v̶e̶r̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ Splintering "Gaming" Forum Circus

Guess who said this?
We can't make you be nice.

For the various folks who'd like to blame moderation for allowing people to act cruelly, that's something you should probably know. More to the point, you don't want us to try and make you be nice, because we have blunt tools, and the way we'd do it is tighten up on banning negative, hostile comments.

You don't want us to do that, because you're guilty of it. Go look in your reading history right now. If you can't find a single comment that someone might think was nasty or unpleasant, I will be deeply surprised. That means the rest of you would be banned.

No rule we can put up, no pogrom of bans, no effort on our part can make you change the way you talk to other people. I've spent a lot of time on OT trying to convince people not to be assholes directly to each other, with little success, so the idea that we're going to stop people from being assholes about someone who isn't here or made promises they didn't keep, is a fantasy.

The only person that can make you behave better, make you remember that there are people on the other side of the keyboard, is you. And you can't make anyone else behave better, either. Each of us can only be responsible for ourselves.

It's easy to blame "GAF" as if the software and hardware were making the comments. It's easy to blame moderation, although it's you guys who create all the content, not us. It's less easy to take a look at your own posting and make changes. But if you want GAF to be a nicer place, that's literally your only option, because GAF is a collective of thousands of different voices, and those voices create the chorus that people perceive.

So keep throwing stones -- at developers, at moderators, at your fellow posters -- but you're part of the problem, and rather than deal with your part in the problem, you're engaging in negativity about other posters, the forum, and its staff. Try, instead, treating fellow posters, developers, and staff as if they were people. Consider that your funny, cruel joke is less funny and more cruel, and maybe don't post it. Moderate your language and instead of calling people scam artists, or shoving your head up your ass in self-righteousness about your consumer rights, consider that the company you're railing against is really just people trying to make something neat and failing rather than a conspiracy to rob you and make you play bad games.

The least qualified living sack of flesh.
 
I was rooting through some imgur albums and found one I had forgotten about:
https://imgur.com/a/3Nv7R
It's a mishmash of Neogaf Best Of from 4chan I fav'd back in the day. No particular topic it seems and it hasn't been updated since late 2015. Honestly seems quite tame by now.

I'd love to add some of the more recent stuff discussed here and publish it on imgur myself for the whole world to laugh at though.
What are some of the best recent topics? There's the medical malpractice guy, Opiate, the Jontron salt, Amirox... anything else in particular?
 
"HANG. EVERY. FUCKING. NAZI."

I knew that simply punching the "Nazis" wouldn't be enough for those assholes, now they want people dead. I'm honestly a little concerned by how much their sanity has deteriorated since Trump won, how much worse can it get before one of them snaps?

I wouldn't be terribly sad if more of the Nazis had been hanged at Nuremberg, but I think their definition of Nazis is a lot wider than mine.
 
I wouldn't be terribly sad if more of the Nazis had been hanged at Nuremberg, but I think their definition of Nazis is a lot wider than mine.
At this point, being a Nazi is simply being slightly right of their far-left ideology.

Just like a cult, you either follow their beliefs 100%, or they'll dismiss you as a Nazi/alt-right monster/etc.
 
A mod made a thread about an infographic on video game purchasing statistics. Because this is Neogaf, he went with a headline that highlighted 37% of games being bought by women. Anyone asking if that included parents buying games for their children or mobile games got banned. :story:

http://archive.is/VDeV1
http://archive.is/qba4j
http://archive.is/xf1Wf
http://archive.is/8cocv

There are no less than four moderators policing a thread with 200 posts. Meanwhile, they can't find the time to ban users inciting violence and promoting other illegal activities.

The medical malpractice defender should take his own advice. Maybe minimize the amount of calories he intakes per day.
 
A mod made a thread about an infographic on video game purchasing statistics. Because this is Neogaf, he went with a headline that highlighted 37% of games being bought by women. Anyone asking if that included parents buying games for their children or mobile games got banned. :story:

http://archive.is/VDeV1
http://archive.is/qba4j
http://archive.is/xf1Wf
http://archive.is/8cocv

There are no less than four moderators policing a thread with 200 posts. Meanwhile, they can't find the time to ban users inciting violence and promoting other illegal activities.

The medical malpractice defender should take his own advice. Maybe minimize the amount of calories he intakes per day.

I don't know why people put up with moderation like that. It's like posting on /r/GamerGhazi.

The only reason I can think of is :autism:.
 
The "most games are bought by women" has long since been debunked. When you remove mobile games, the number plummets. Same with "most PC gamers are women". When you remove Facebook games or only include legit Digital Distribution sites like GoG, Origin, Steam, Ubi, etc. the number plummets massively.

Nobody likes the truth anymore.
 
From someone's twitter banmessage:
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The offending post?
Is it weird that so many journalists are basically stalking Luckey as much as possible? Not saying the donations are OK (don't really care either way) but it's just weird. Dude isn't even involved with Oculus anymore.
This was about an article from Neogaf's corporate overlords, Gizmodo/Kotaku, who have a couple dozen or so articles dedicated to "Palmer Watch", in essence trying to stalk him and his girlfriend back when it came out the dude donated to Trump, on an almost daily basis:
http://archive.is/4KKpN
http://archive.is/5yFst
http://archive.is/Jh33d
http://archive.is/mMIFW
http://archive.is/NsH5Z

Also said stalker "journalist" is apparently 15 years old. Quality staff right here.

So in conclusion "HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE THE GRRRRRREAT KOTAKU JOURNALISTS OF STALKING! GAME JOURNALISTS ARE IMPORTANT PEOPLE! just ignore the 3 dozen articles trying to find Palmer Lucky's whereabouts though those aren't stalking at all nope"
 
I was going to bring up that thread. It's another Kotaku backed witch hunt that is currently at six pages. http://archive.is/zq3oq http://archive.is/lSsfp http://archive.is/agHj9 http://archive.is/apa7M http://archive.is/E7Lyi http://archive.is/iHoMh For comparison, the latest terrorist attack is currently sitting at four. Even a racist murdering three people is only worth two pages. I'm sure you can probably guess why.

For a moment they were even going after Shuhei Yoshida, a Japanese businessman who runs Sony's gaming division. He's usually very well loved on the site but someone found out he follows Palmer Luckey and Alex Jones on Twitter!!!!! I wonder if they'll start harassing Palmer's girlfriend again.

Palmer Luckey isn't involved with the gaming industry anymore, so it's interesting that Kotaku has no issue going after a private individual's legal use of money. They've never touched Neogaf despite a convicted drug abuser telling kids as young as 13 how to get high, a pedophile defender, an admitted sexual harasser, and a bi-polar man covering up medical malpractice as moderators. Even just talking politics, Neogaf's owner donated $7500 to the DNC, the entire forum had delusional moderators and members being official and unofficial members of Clinton's campaign staff. If that wasn't weird enough, Neogaf, a site that is supposedly about video games, was one of the largest traffic drivers to Hillary's website. A video game forum. Kotaku has never written about that. Maybe because they have their own questionable ties to that same political party? More likely they just didn't want to speak poorly about their unofficial message board.

This guy has to be a viral marketer.

They also fell for a very obvious promo attempt from a shitty SJW indie dev complaining Trump supporters were brigading their user reviews (there were 5 negative reviews written over a few months).

Some exceptionalism.
Got bitten by a puppy. What should I do?

How do I swallow pills?

 
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I don't know why people put up with moderation like that. It's like posting on /r/GamerGhazi.

The only reason I can think of is :autism:.

I'm sure this has been discussed earlier in the thread, but you have to understand what GAF used to be to understand why the (unbanned) long-time posters stay there.

NeoGAF's an old forum, and it used to be a very good one. The biggest gaming sites would get their "scoops" from GAF insiders. Anyone with a paid (or university) email account could post alongside and interact with huge industry figures. There were constantly new threads being made for quality discussions about everything video game-related, and the people in the discussions actually knew what they were talking about. (And the ones who didn't were clowned mercilessly.) It wasn't uncommon for big internet memes to get started there. It truly was the biggest and best gaming forum on the internet. And that was just the gaming side of the forum. The Off Topic side was even more active.

People get attached to a forum like that. They make friends. Occasionally they lose friends, and the entire forum mourns. They form gaming clans. They meet partners. They get and give life advice. They even develop memories of "the good times" over time. In short, they have an online routine that has a big impact on their real lives.

It's the Sunk Cost Fallacy in action. You've been posting for years, so when all of this falls apart gradually, it makes sense for a few frogs to refuse to leave the boiling pot, right? They have friends there, or it's part of a routine, or they don't know where to go to replace it, so they rationalize the bad changes. Especially if they're comfortable. Especially if they're shut-ins or NEETs or other sorts of social outcasts. Or maybe their true natures come out along with the bad changes.

And as the forum SocJus infection gets worse, it gains a new reputation and attracts SJWs to replace the normal people who get fed up and either leave or get banned. The guy running the forum knows who butters his bread: it's whoever is the least threatening to advertisers and the most likely to contact the advertisers if upset. And so he gives in to the infection, hoping it will keep him raking in ad dollars. And he appoints moderators who will help with that mission.

GAF's regular posters now are mostly newer posters who like the hugbox it's become, because they're so awful they don't know anywhere else online they won't be kicked out.

Basically, GAF is like most big online forums that go to shit over time, but GAF was really big. The closest comparison I can think of is the Something Awful forums or something like Fark, which is still pitifully limping along the last I checked.
 
I'm sure this has been discussed earlier in the thread, but you have to understand what GAF used to be to understand why the (unbanned) long-time posters stay there.

NeoGAF's an old forum, and it used to be a very good one. The biggest gaming sites would get their "scoops" from GAF insiders. Anyone with a paid (or university) email account could post alongside and interact with huge industry figures. There were constantly new threads being made for quality discussions about everything video game-related, and the people in the discussions actually knew what they were talking about. (And the ones who didn't were clowned mercilessly.) It wasn't uncommon for big internet memes to get started there. It truly was the biggest and best gaming forum on the internet. And that was just the gaming side of the forum. The Off Topic side was even more active.

People get attached to a forum like that. They make friends. Occasionally they lose friends, and the entire forum mourns. They form gaming clans. They meet partners. They get and give life advice. They even develop memories of "the good times" over time. In short, they have an online routine that has a big impact on their real lives.

It's the Sunk Cost Fallacy in action. You've been posting for years, so when all of this falls apart gradually, it makes sense for a few frogs to refuse to leave the boiling pot, right? They have friends there, or it's part of a routine, or they don't know where to go to replace it, so they rationalize the bad changes. Especially if they're comfortable. Especially if they're shut-ins or NEETs or other sorts of social outcasts. Or maybe their true natures come out along with the bad changes.

And as the forum SocJus infection gets worse, it gains a new reputation and attracts SJWs to replace the normal people who get fed up and either leave or get banned. The guy running the forum knows who butters his bread: it's whoever is the least threatening to advertisers and the most likely to contact the advertisers if upset. And so he gives in to the infection, hoping it will keep him raking in ad dollars. And he appoints moderators who will help with that mission.

GAF's regular posters now are mostly newer posters who like the hugbox it's become, because they're so awful they don't know anywhere else online they won't be kicked out.

Basically, GAF is like most big online forums that go to shit over time, but GAF was really big. The closest comparison I can think of is the Something Awful forums or something like Fark, which is still pitifully limping along the last I checked.

Fark still exists? Is it bigger than NeoGAF?
 
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I got perma-banned from NeoGAF for the fourth time yesterday. It's a badge of honor at this point. I think I beat my previous record too- I got perma'd less than 24 hours from account creation. The message?

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Interesting how you get banned for saying a videogame having "offensive" stuff is a matter of cultural differences, but GAF uses the same argument to defend muslim terrorism/rape all the time and nobody gets banned.
 
Interesting how you get banned for saying a videogame having "offensive" stuff is a matter of cultural differences, but GAF uses the same argument to defend muslim terrorism/rape all the time and nobody gets banned.

The Japanese are a lost cause to social justice after they didn't accept the whitewashing in the Ghost In The Shell film was a crime against humanity.
 
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