NeoGAF & ResetERA - The Hilarious N̶e̶v̶e̶r̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ Splintering "Gaming" Forum Circus

[Clownfish]

It's strange though how in the past few years the moral watchdogs of society have done a complete 180 from being intensely conservative fundamentalists to far-left progressives. I wonder if it's at all a product of the vacuum that's been left since the right-wing watchdogs have pretty much disappeared in the past few decades.

I have a theory.
The "no fun allowed" folks are the same throughout history. They just wear different masks but at the core it's the same type. Even Jesus had to deal with virtue signaling tards in his day.

Matthew 6:5-6, "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward

So the issue is trying to remove the "mask" (ideology) and focus on the person themselves.

 

[Particle Bored]

A thread about literal cattle auction style human slave sales in Libya turns into a "US is worse" thread. https://archive.is/0KiFB

This is what happens when the west thoughtlessly bombs a country's government to dust; the animals take over.

Not "Obama," not "Hillary"... "the west."

Yeah, it was a NATO-sanctioned action, but the US admin launched the Tomahawks, so the verbiage is nonetheless amusing.

Also:

 

[Apex Predator]

I have a theory.
The "no fun allowed" folks are the same throughout history. They just wear different masks but at the core it's the same type. Even Jesus had to deal with virtue signaling tards in his day.

Matthew 6:5-6, "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward

So the issue is trying to remove the "mask" (ideology) and focus on the person themselves.

Often fundies and SJWs (or Communists and Nazis, or whatever groups there are at the time) are literally the same people, flipping between one ideology and another. Authoritarians easily change the mask, but it is damn hard to get them to change the underlying mindset that makes them botherers in the first place.

 

[Beardfish]

TBH I was surprised that some of the responses were reasonable. And that this guy apparently didn't get banned...(yet?)

Especially that last line. I wonder how they'd answer it, if forced to?

I can't see how that last line doesn't get him banned or at least dogpiled into oblivion despite being 100% correct. Maybe Resetera will surprise us.

And they won't answer that, they will call him a bigot and move on. They can't answer, their whole ideology is based around questions like that never surfacing.

 

[Vault Boy]

A thread about literal cattle auction style human slave sales in Libya turns into a "US is worse" thread. https://archive.is/0KiFB

Of course they'll deflect to "but White America!" It must break their minds that there can exist "POC" countries openly practicing slavery, so they gotta bitch about the "White Supremacists" to try to get their narrative back on track.

 

[Clownfish]

Often fundies and SJWs (or Communists and Nazis, or whatever groups there are at the time) are literally the same people, flipping between one ideology and another. Authoritarians easily change the mask, but it is damn hard to get them to change the underlying mindset that makes them botherers in the first place.

Right. They use ideals as masks to deflect from their behavior. By removing that ability, one removed the bad behavior.

I'm here to figure out what the difference between a moderate and a non moderate. Neogaf is an example of a society that filled with non moderates.
The result is a toxic environment ran like a dictatorship that collapses.

Kiwifarms is filled with moderates. As mentioned there is a wide diversity of thought and people here. People get along fine and it's not oppressive (unlike neogaf) and works fine.

So I guess I am trying to figure out what the main difference between a lolcow and non lolcow. Or in your view a authoritarian and non authoritarian. I apologise if I seem a bit spergy about it. IF I get annoying let me know.

One thing I've found out is focus on the ideal structure and said conquences of said structure.

One structure is built to fail.
Lolcows love ideas that are designed to fail. Moderates don't.

A good example of this would be cosmopolitan beauty magizine. What they do is present to young women an ideal (but unobtainable) standard of beauty. The implied message is "You're not lovable unless you look like this".

So women try to achieve that standard. They fail. This hurts self esteem. Insecurities make them double down on behavior to get said beauty standard. They fail. They double down more. Eventually the person is now suffering from eating disorders. The more pathological the person's mindset becomes, the more they adhere to practice designed to fail them.

The more pathological the person gets them more product they buy advertised in magizine. The person gives up more and more autonomy

Let about about how built to fail works with polical correctness.
What a SJW does is point out a problem then offers a solution that intends to fail or produce opposite result.
When said solution produces opposite outcome most folks double down on the built to fail solution. Just like the anorexic.

Micro aggressions are a great example of this.
What it does is tell the person that everyone who is white doesn't like them. So trains them to be insecure and be on the lookout for rejection. This make the person act hostile. Which in turns make white people lash back. Now there is "proof' the white hated them along. Now there is racism where there was none before.

Now the non white person sees the "light" and relies on white liberals who taught them migro aggressions for further protection from "racist" whites.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

I can't see how that last line doesn't get him banned or at least dogpiled into oblivion despite being 100% correct. Maybe Resetera will surprise us.

And they won't answer that, they will call him a bigot and move on. They can't answer, their whole ideology is based around questions like that never surfacing.

Because he said he was black. I know that "Uncle Tom" and similar insults exist, but it does take away a lot of their ad hominem attacks which they often use in response to disagreement.

Without those, they don't have a lot.

 

[Reverse Cuck]

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Do they not realize they're making the same argument that people make in defense of Cosby, Weinstein, and all those other men accused of sexual assault?

 

[Robotron]

Do they not realize they're making the same argument that people make in defense of Cosby, Weinstein, and all those other men accused of sexual assault?

Considering Neogaf's track record of defending pedophilia and sexual abuse, I highly doubt they care.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

Because he said he was black. I know that "Uncle Tom" and similar insults exist, but it does take away a lot of their ad hominem attacks which they often use in response to disagreement.

Without those, they don't have a lot.

It hasn't stopped them so far with other posters. They will likely just say he's obviously some alt-right dudebro pretending to be black for concern trolling unless he doxes himself sufficiently.

 

[AnOminous]

It's strange though how in the past few years the moral watchdogs of society have done a complete 180 from being intensely conservative fundamentalists to far-left progressives. I wonder if it's at all a product of the vacuum that's been left since the right-wing watchdogs have pretty much disappeared in the past few decades.

Ironically, many of the people now acting as morality police were at least in part responsible for the discrediting of the usually Christian morality police they've now replaced with their own bitter, hateful objectives.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Ironically, many of the people now acting as morality police were at least in part responsible for the discrediting of the usually Christian morality police they've now replaced with their own bitter, hateful objectives.

I thought the decline of the "moral majority" was just because they were old and have now died.

 

[c-no]

Considering Neogaf's track record of defending pedophilia and sexual abuse, I highly doubt they care.

Considering that, would this tweet be fitting?

In relation to NeoGaf being something of a joke and the pedo whiteknighting, a certain robotic shitposter shows a year old post from NeoGaf where a horsefucker from that site says he wouldn't be surprised if an autistic movement over vidya did more damages than pedoforks.
https://twitter.com/mombot/status/932566521435455488

I thought the decline of the "moral majority" was just because they were old and have now died.

Much as the moral majority is dying, it wouldn't excuse the idea they'd have some sort of successor to surpass them, even if said successor is the opposite of their ideas.

 

[TowinKarz]

I thought the decline of the "moral majority" was just because they were old and have now died.

They are and have, but, it's not like they didn't try to hand it off to the next generation.

The late 90's to early 00's was full of Jack Thompson, Pat Buchanan as a 3rd party candidate and fighting to keep a vegetable by the name of Terry Schiavo alive in the name of Christian decency because pastors and politicians knew the power of prayer could save her, her doctors and husbands didn't know what they were talking about....

If i had to pick a moment, the failure of the anti-gay marriage was the fumbled snap that started the downfall.

 

[Medicated]

Ironically, many of the people now acting as morality police were at least in part responsible for the discrediting of the usually Christian morality police they've now replaced with their own bitter, hateful objectives.

I'm not sure they are the same people, I think maybe it's a generation instead of being raised on religious fundamentalism, it's turned to a generation raised on social justice/communist fundamentalism. Religion is replaced by another religion that is instead pseudo-science and yet structured in the same way. It's the same fundamentalist message packaged in a different way (original sin/born white) (confess your sins/check your privilege). And everyone seems to have their own spin on it. Like people interpreting the Bible.

It even has it's own shady religious leaders that want you to buy their books and send them money. The only thing missing is a dedicated Church of Social Justice and tax exemption.

 

[kcbbq]

Do they not realize they're making the same argument that people make in defense of Cosby, Weinstein, and all those other men accused of sexual assault?

No bad assaults, only bad victims.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

a generation raised on social justice/communist fundamentalism.

No generation in the US has ever been raised on communist fundamentalism.

 

[northstar747]

On a different topic, the post talking about sexism in games confuses me. The "dont buy the game then" is an interesting point. If the media truly offends their sensibilities why vote with their wallet. I hate the term "gamer" in fact I hate people who make the media they consume part of their identity.

But I would but gamers are addicted to the media so they will play it any way.

Though I wonder how well studios could make money by viture signaling in their games just like how everyone loves steven universe.

 

[TowinKarz]

They can't go that route because gaming as a medium is seen as a male-dominated arena, like comics and team sports, not a more neutral one like television or literature.

Those mediums have the same "this is patriarchy because I don't' like it!" detractors, yes. But they stick to specific tropes and shows. Mad Men is problematic, Star Trek is sexist, but there's not the added on demand for "televisionists" to be destroyed through social de-platforming because they're all Nazis.

Gaming is seen as a toxic cesspit of cismales that needs to be cleansed first before they'll even consider becoming a part of it to even allow pandering to. It's compounded outrage. They won't even DARE buy a GAME, that would make them an, ugh, GAMER! You should remove the gamers to make us more welcome! (and then we'll move the goalposts and never approve of any game you make because it lacks enough helicopterkin)

And they've clearly gloriously and embarrassingly failed at that "no boys" prerequisite despite their best efforts.

 

[Clownfish]

They are and have, but, it's not like they didn't try to hand it off to the next generation.

The late 90's to early 00's was full of Jack Thompson, Pat Buchanan as a 3rd party candidate and fighting to keep a vegetable by the name of Terry Schiavo alive in the name of Christian decency because pastors and politicians knew the power of prayer could save her, her doctors and husbands didn't know what they were talking about....

If i had to pick a moment, the failure of the anti-gay marriage was the fumbled snap that started the downfall.

The conservatives failed to adapt.

The whole point of being a conservative is to value stability above all else. They don't have to cling to the current interpretations of their traditions and values. Just focus on the main goal of stability.

For example the main reason of marriage is to join two clans and express this union by offspring. It is a business and political contract between two groups. Not two individuals.

This means as long a marriage produces children by two people of the opposite sex it is valid. Whatever else is added into the contract should be ok.

In today's society both parents work. This means daycare, having the kids baby sat by friends and relatives or they become latchkey children.

Daycare is expensive. Not to mention it having the children reared by total strangers who may or may not be good people. Friends and relatives are unreliable or not the best people. Latchkey kids tend to grow up delinquents (Source Emotional Intelligence by Dan goleman).

This does not produce the most stable children. When a nation produce unstable children society becomes unstable.

So what the solution? Well in the Bible a man could have a second wife. A second spouse could be used to help with the children raising while the main couple work.

What happens between the main couple and the other spouses in the bed room is their business. Ta da! There now a conservative version of gay marriage that provides a stable home life for all.

A conservative can embrace and invent new ideas for various issues as long it promotes stability. I hope my alternative idea for marriage for non hetrosexual couples is a good example of this.

By inventing new ideas based on promoting stability will give minority voters more choices to promote their interests and concerns. It will help conservatives become competitive and destroy the monopoly the left has over minority voters.

Now I could go further into how making society more accessible for minorites would promote stability but I think I have said enough.