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What the fuck is "arguing in bad faith" anyway? Is that just social justice nerd speak for "off to the gulag with you wrongthinker?
To a normal person, face-to-face, this would refer to the idea that you began a discussion with opposite viewpoints but never had any intention of engaging with the other speakers constructively or with any positive intent whatsoever, i.e. you meant to emotionally wound someone or get them heated so that they embarrassed themselves in public.

Online, it's lost all meaning & just a catch-all now to moderate with impunity.
 
What the fuck is "arguing in bad faith" anyway? Is that just social justice nerd speak for "off to the gulag with you wrongthinker?
The real definition of "arguing in bad faith" would be pretty close "being devils advocate without letting people know". The crux of it is someone is accusing you of arguing in bad faith, they are telling you that you secretly believe something else other than what you're arguing.

Of course, this means exactly what everyone else has already elaborated on in practice on the internet because it's far easier to dismiss you by saying you're actually the strawman you've been set up as than engaging with whatever argument you made.

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The real definition of "arguing in bad faith" would be pretty close "being devils advocate without letting people know". The crux of it is someone is accusing you of arguing in bad faith, they are telling you that you secretly believe something else other than what you're arguing.

Of course, this means exactly what everyone else has already elaborated on in practice on the internet because it's far easier to dismiss you by saying you're actually the strawman you've been set up as than engaging with whatever argument you made.

Edit: Damn, ninja'd :late:
Why does the speaker's actual belief matter to the discussion, if the speaker isn't being dishonest? For example, if I hear someone make a fallacious argument against creationism, even though I don't believe in creationism, I would disagree with their premise.

I think they're afraid of people talking about theoretical situations, which is basically what playing the devil's advocate is, because it forces them to reveal a position. Plus, of course, it matters deeply to them that you believe what you're saying, and more importantly, what you're saying really means about you, because they want to judge people.
 
Why does the speaker's actual belief matter to the discussion, if the speaker isn't being dishonest? For example, if I hear someone make a fallacious argument against creationism, even though I don't believe in creationism, I would disagree with their premise.

I think they're afraid of people talking about theoretical situations, which is basically what playing the devil's advocate is, because it forces them to reveal a position. Plus, of course, it matters deeply to them that you believe what you're saying, and more importantly, what you're saying really means about you, because they want to judge people.

They ban people for "attempting to rationalize", which for a discussion forum is pretty mad. But it's not a discussion forum is it, it's an agreement forum.

But it also a very useful cuntsponge, keeping the lunatic woke bellends away from other parts of the internet. There is that.
 
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What the fuck is "arguing in bad faith" anyway? Is that just social justice nerd speak for "off to the gulag with you wrongthinker?

It refers to when you're arguing with a closed mind and unwilling to soak in new ideas or when you're playing devils advocate/trolling.


Resetera enforces this retarded anti-consumer idea that we shouldn't compare things between two competing corporations.

However, you sure as hell can make thread after thread bragging about how you're above that shit.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/have-you-outgrown-a-console-warrior-mentality-yet.9320/

I still find this one of the most painful to read threads to read on this forum and that is saying something.
 
It refers to when you're arguing with a closed mind and unwilling to soak in new ideas or when you're playing devils advocate/trolling.



Resetera enforces this exceptional anti-consumer idea that we shouldn't compare things between two competing corporations.

However, you sure as hell can make thread after thread bragging about how you're above that shit.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/have-you-outgrown-a-console-warrior-mentality-yet.9320/

I still find this one of the most painful to read threads to read on this forum and that is saying something.

So the whole forum should be banned, because that is exactly their TOS policy and how they enforce it.
But it's the same for their "supporting bigotry" bann reason. Resetera is extremely bigot.
 
So the whole forum should be banned, because that is exactly their TOS policy and how they enforce it.
But it's the same for their "supporting bigotry" bann reason. Resetera is extremely bigot.
Closed Mind has some specific connotations in this context that I think might confuse things, because having a closed mind plays a role but the deception about being closed minded is key to the equation, the wikipedia quote on "bad faith" generally sums it up fairly well:

In the 1913 Webster’s Dictionary, bad faith was equated with being double hearted, "of two hearts", or "a sustained form of deception which consists in entertaining or pretending to entertain one set of feelings, and acting as if influenced by another"

Obviously trolling would fall under this category.

The twisted aspect of this on the internet comes from people projecting their views of the people they disagree with onto the argument itself. So if you disagree with someone on something and your worldview is "people who disagree with this position are objectively engaging in at least one of 5 million unflattering 'isms'" then they take that and say "well you disagree, so you're arguing in bad faith because the position you are arguing SOUNDS much more reasonable than the position I KNOW you hold". I don't actually know if people consciously put lines between those dots, but that's what's happening. After all if you hold the Objective Truth (SM) then you aren't wrong and therefore...you get the idea.

To actually prove arguing in bad faith you need some evidence, which is often lacking as we have seen given how many people generally are banned for argumentation in bad faith.
 
Great, on top of being a left wing shithole, that site has scams and malware disguised as ads. Can it get even worse?
Well we just need the owner making pleas for money on a monthly basis for bandwidth and server costs (but that actually get spent on box wine and ambien), a confirmed convicted pedophile on the mod team, and a subforum dedicated to doxing current users, and its transformation into peak somethingawful would be complete I suppose...
 

So they've gone to the full Zaiger rape the shit out of the side with malicious ads route much faster than ED ever did.

I think they realize their scam is about over.

Great, on top of being a left wing shithole, that site has scams and malware disguised as ads. Can it get even worse?

What else do you do with a gathering of the dumbest, most gullible suckers ever assembled together on one forum?
 
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