Netflix's The Witcher series

Let's just say there's a reason I only own physical copies of the short story collections. The witcher as a long-form fantasy epic is pretty uninspired.
It was always better when it was about snippets of a Witcher's life, and that's why the best part of the Witcher 3 are the smaller stuff that has nothing to do with the main plot. People who are mad that Witcher 3 flubbed the White Frost are going to be surprised when they figure out the books flubbed that plot too.
 
Dunno man. I've never heard or knew of anyone that praised the books for their own qualities.
Gamers don't read.

It was always better when it was about snippets of a Witcher's life, and that's why the best part of the Witcher 3 are the smaller stuff that has nothing to do with the main plot. People who are mad that Witcher 3 flubbed the White Frost are going to be surprised when they figure out the books flubbed that plot too.
But yeah the last couple of them have a lot of problems. I'm not pissed about the White Frost (though would have been nice if the game could have salvaged it). More shit like the Empress ending. It's like if when Frodo took the ring at Mt. Doom he actually somehow became the new dark lord. Makes no fucking sense.

Witcher 3 barely had a main plot. RIP Wild Hunt's potential as antagonists. Neither Sapkowski or CDPR could make you work.
 
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Let's just say there's a reason I only own physical copies of the short story collections. The witcher as a long-form fantasy epic is pretty uninspired.

I don't know I read the all of the books except for the last one. They're alright, but the plot has a way of meandering through that sometimes feels a bit stilted. The characters is where the storyline derives the majority of it's strength, the plot not so much. It's generally just as good as most of your generic fantasy novels.

The original short stories were excellent though and well worth re-reading from time to time.
 
I don't know I read the all of the books except for the last one. They're alright, but the plot has a way of meandering through that sometimes feels a bit stilted. The characters is where the storyline derives the majority of it's strength, the plot not so much. It's generally just as good as most of your generic fantasy novels.

The original short stories were excellent though and well worth re-reading from time to time.
That description is kinda what I meant by "uninspired". Its about as blandly good as your average fantasy schlock. I wouldn't put Sapkowski's saga all that much higher than your generic R.A. Salvatore series about Drizzt Do'Urden in terms of quality storytelling.
The sentiment that the short stories are where the concept really shines is so widespread within the fandom that I remain amazed that Netflix didn't choose to capitalize on that, at least initially. A season of Henry Cavill roaming around the Northern Kingdoms doing Witcher Things (TM) in 2-3 episode arcs would have totally worked, and I doubt Yennefer and Ciri not being per-episode fixtures would have turned off the video game fandom all that much.
 
That description is kinda what I meant by "uninspired". Its about as blandly good as your average fantasy schlock. I wouldn't put Sapkowski's saga all that much higher than your generic R.A. Salvatore series about Drizzt Do'Urden in terms of quality storytelling.
The sentiment that the short stories are where the concept really shines is so widespread within the fandom that I remain amazed that Netflix didn't choose to capitalize on that, at least initially. A season of Henry Cavill roaming around the Northern Kingdoms doing Witcher Things (TM) in 2-3 episode arcs would have totally worked, and I doubt Yennefer and Ciri not being per-episode fixtures would have turned off the video game fandom all that much.

Yeah I agree, I always thought the fact that Sapkowski in the books and stories borrows a lot of well established fantasy tropes as fairly unoriginal.

As for the production of a Witcher TV series, it's a hard one to decide. I can see why the production team would go for the meat of the plot directly. The short stories deserve some form of adaptation too, but I can see why they'd try to skip ahead to the point of Ciri being a teenager/young adult. (IRCC that's around book 3) But they could have a few different story elements thrown in from the older short stories.

At the very least they should have allusions to "A Question Of Price" in the series, because if it wasn't for Geralt helping Pavetta and Urcheon then there wouldn't be a Ciri. And at the very least it would help establish the whole child surprise storyline.
 
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Why don't the short stories count as part of the series?

That description is kinda what I meant by "uninspired". Its about as blandly good as your average fantasy schlock. I wouldn't put Sapkowski's saga all that much higher than your generic R.A. Salvatore series about Drizzt Do'Urden in terms of quality storytelling.
Oh come on it's at least A Song of Ice and Fire tier. If not slightly higher since it actually finished.

Yeah I agree, I always thought the fact that Sapkowski in the books and stories borrows a lot of well established fantasy tropes as fairly unoriginal.

As for the production of a Witcher TV series, it's a hard one to decide. I can see why the production team would go for the meat of the plot directly. The short stories deserve some form of adaptation too, but I can see why they'd try to skip ahead to the point of Ciri being a teenager/young adult. (IRCC that's around book 3) But they could have a few different story elements thrown in from the older short stories.

At the very least they should have allusions to "A Question Of Price" in the series, because if it wasn't for Geralt helping Pavetta and Urcheon then there wouldn't be a Ciri. And at the very least it would help establish the whole child surprise storyline.
If they don't do The Lesser Evil I'm gonna be mad.
 
Oh come on it's at least A Song of Ice and Fire tier. If not slightly higher since it actually finished..
Agree to disagree. The Game of Thrones TV show shitting the bed this spring kicked off a whole re-read of the asoiaf novels for me, the Netflix adaptation of the Witcher has inspired no such nostalgia for the saga.
 
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They finally released a real trailer for this.

Doesn't look awful but I'm still not very optimistic for it.
I get that they want this to be their GoT, but this isn't how they should be marketing the Witcher. It looks like a damn action movie. Also, the monster CGI still looks awful. They should have ordered a first season entirely based around The Last Wish and marketed it like a low-key drama series, because if the series is mostly like the book people are going to be surprised when you get to the monster fights and they're often anti-climactic or Geralt gets his ass kicked.
 
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Hahah. This is why you don't hire a major actor you can't afford.

"Oh we just wanted to uhhh... tell the story through the women's eyes. Because uh, Polish women world war II....that's it."

Right. That's why you put the focus on two completely unknown actors instead of the seven figure blockbuster actor that everyone wants to watch. It's because wokeness. I totally believe you Netflix. It's not because you couldn't afford him with all the special effects and fantasy shit. It's a 'creative decision'. Not that you fucked up the budget and exploited your writer's wokeness.

Monster hunting is boring! Let's follow a child actress around and the politics of sorceresses. Amazing creative decision Netflix. Following shit nobody wants to see.

"Oh, he's on screen a lot."

That builds tons of confidence you fucking mongoloid. You say "Of course he's there. He's the main character." Not that 'he's on screen a lot'. It makes it sound like he's a glorified cameo.
 

Hahah. This is why you don't hire a major actor you can't afford.

"Oh we just wanted to uhhh... tell the story through the women's eyes. Because uh, Polish women world war II....that's it."

Right. That's why you put the focus on two completely unknown actors instead of the seven figure blockbuster actor that everyone wants to watch. It's because wokeness. I totally believe you Netflix. It's not because you couldn't afford him with all the special effects and fantasy shit. It's a 'creative decision'. Not that you fucked up the budget and exploited your writer's wokeness.

Monster hunting is boring! Let's follow a child actress around and the politics of sorceresses. Amazing creative decision Netflix. Following shit nobody wants to see.

"Oh, he's on screen a lot."

That builds tons of confidence you fucking mongoloid. You say "Of course he's there. He's the main character." Not that 'he's on screen a lot'. It makes it sound like he's a glorified cameo.
I'm almost disappointed, because your theory presents a way more plausible explanation for why Geralt might be sidelined, but the version where they spent the money on Cavill regardless and he's just a glorified prop lumbering around while the women endlessly prattle on is way funnier in concept.
 
black and not hot sorceresses is very against the book canon. In the books sorceres are said to be able to shape their looks and age by magic, to help them create their image of being powerful, wise and magical. It says guys usually go for the middle aged, serious wise dude look and gals going for hot af. With some extra spells of going into unrealistically hot (think extreeem photoshop retouch but irl) when they really want to impress the common plebians. For example Yen in reality is like 100 years old but looks 20-something maybe thirty.
With that said, why would they want to be black?
 
Because Netflix is Netflix.

You think if everyone had magic that they'd chose to be fat? Fucking lol no. Everyone would be running around hot as shit or like in Altered Carbon the dude appears middle-aged to convey a sense of wisdom. It obviously makes no sense but is a diversity mandate from Netflix itself.
 
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