New Covid Delta variant with mutation that could dodge vaccines found in UK - There are just 19 cases so far of Delta + E484K, the mutation associated with immune escape – suggesting the virus is coming under pressure from highly vaccinated population

A new mutation of the Delta variant which could make it more resistant to vaccines has been identified in the UK.

Some 19 cases of Delta with E484K, the mutation associated with immune escape in other variants, have been found, including 17 in England and two in Scotland.

Although case numbers are very low, the presence of E484K – known in virology circles as “Eeek” because of its vaccine-dodging qualities – is a cause for concern and Public Health England have classed it as a “signal under investigation”.

The latest technical briefing paper on Delta by PHE say changes at position 484 on the covid genome are “potentially antigenically significant” – meaning it could make the virus more resistant to current vaccines.

However all vaccines in the UK offer strong protection against Delta and while this mutation could potentially blunt their effect it would not make them ineffective.

The E484K mutation is present in the Beta virus first identified in South Africa, which triggered surge testing where it was found in the UK earlier this year due to its concerning properties, as well as in two other strains of B1617, the parent lineage of the Delta variant. All three did not have the same highly contagious properties as Delta.

But scientists have warned for some time that a combination of highly transmissible Delta with an immune escape mutation could pose a threat to vaccines.

However, the clusters of Delta + E484K may die out, as happened with the so-called “Delta Plus” variant in the UK earlier this summer, which was a combination of Delta with E484Q, another mutation of concern.

As of 13 September, the largest clusters of Delta + E484K are in the East Midlands and Yorkshire and the Humber regions, with six and four cases respectively. There are two in the East of England and one each in London, the north west, south east and south west of England, and a further one in an unknown region.

Three of the 17 English cases are linked to travel through Latvia and Nigeria.

Internationally there are 99 cases of Delta + E484K, including 25 in the United States, 22 in Denmark, 21 in Turkey, six in Italy, and three in Germany.

A PHE spokesperson said: “We constantly monitor all data relating to SARS-CoV-2 variants in the UK and abroad. Delta with E484K is not a Variant Under Investigation or a Variant of Concern at this time. When cases are identified, health protection teams are informed so that they can take actions appropriate to the epidemiological situation.”

The weekly average of hospital admissions has fallen for the first time in several weeks, according to the latest Government coronavirus dashboard figures.


There were 909 new hospitalisations as of 13 September. The number of new daily cases also continued to fall, to 32,651, a seven-day average decrease of 23 per cent. However daily deaths remain relatively high, with 178 new fatalities reported on Friday.

The shift also suggests the virus is coming under pressure in a largely vaccinated population in the UK and is trying to adapt to survive.

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So this is a new variant, why is it called "delta but with a mutation"? Is delta now just the "corona but MORE BAD" word?
Sigma variant or bust. I want every chance to go "SIGMA BALLLLLLS" when talking about corona.
 
And it was the retard unvaccinated who was the breeding ground for it. And they wonder why libs laugh at their FB posts of them fucking around and finding out.
Inb4 "but muh blacks are the most unvaccinated and they vote DEM!"
This is the UK you fucking dipshit. We don't have DEM's and this article specifically says pressure from the vaccinated.

If you're going to be a troll, at least be funny or clever. Being a dumb fucking retard isn't as entertaining.

OT: I think this has alread hit parts of the UK. Last week I got a 'flu' without the fever. Aches, headache, cough, sore throat, lots and lots of congestion. I thought it was just me, but going out and about i hear a lot of people coughing, more than I've heard over the last 18 months combined. Could be a coincidence, it could be the seasonal flu -even though the weather has been very good. Anyway, I'm over it.
 
This is the UK you fucking dipshit. We don't have DEM's and this article specifically says pressure from the vaccinated.

If you're going to be a troll, at least be funny or clever. Being a dumb fucking retard isn't as entertaining.

OT: I think this has alread hit parts of the UK. Last week I got a 'flu' without the fever. Aches, headache, cough, sore throat, lots and lots of congestion. I thought it was just me, but going out and about i hear a lot of people coughing, more than I've heard over the last 18 months combined. Could be a coincidence, it could be the seasonal flu -even though the weather has been very good. Anyway, I'm over it.
There is no seasonal flu anymore in my experience. Influenza is essentially sidelined while CoV rocks people's nuts off.
 
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This is the UK you fucking dipshit. We don't have DEM's and this article specifically says pressure from the vaccinated.

If you're going to be a troll, at least be funny or clever. Being a dumb fucking retard isn't as entertaining.

OT: I think this has alread hit parts of the UK. Last week I got a 'flu' without the fever. Aches, headache, cough, sore throat, lots and lots of congestion. I thought it was just me, but going out and about i hear a lot of people coughing, more than I've heard over the last 18 months combined. Could be a coincidence, it could be the seasonal flu -even though the weather has been very good. Anyway, I'm over it.
Wait a second, if I'm getting this right, you got the signs of covid, you couldn't be assed to take lateral flow test which takes like 30 minutes from your own house. Just said fuck it and went out, no wonder the UK is getting new mutations when people are acting that retarded.
 
Wait a second, if I'm getting this right, you got the signs of covid, you couldn't be assed to take lateral flow test which takes like 30 minutes from your own house. Just said fuck it and went out, no wonder the UK is getting new mutations when people are acting that retarded.
No. I'll explain better.

I quit smoking a few weeks back, so when i felt shitty with flu like symptoms, minus the fever (having flu without a fever describes quitters flu to a T) I thought it was just me. I stayed at home for a week because I felt so shitty. This week, when I felt better, I went out walking to get some exercise. On my travels through places and to the shops, I noticed a lot of people coughing/I heard a lot of people coughing. At first I thought "maybe a lot of people have quit smoking ready for stop-tober or whatever".

When I say i heard a lot of coughing, i mean, it's a frequent thing to hear from people walking passed the house, the man on the street or in the shops. It's wierd because I haven't heard anyone cough for well over 18 months. Maybe people were hiding coughs for fear of being labelled covid-positive or something, but it wasn't just hearing the cough but the high frequency of it, which would have been noticable even in pre-covid times.

Although, FWIW, i wouldn't test myself for covid. I don't wear a mask, do keep a 2M distance (even more if I see an elderly person with a mask on, while I think it's a load of bollox I do it for their peace of mind). If i felt very rough or shitty I wouldn't go out. If i felt a bit under the weather I would, just like I would if i had the flu.
 
No. I'll explain better.

I quit smoking a few weeks back, so when i felt shitty with flu like symptoms, minus the fever (having flu without a fever describes quitters flu to a T) I thought it was just me. I stayed at home for a week because I felt so shitty. This week, when I felt better, I went out walking to get some exercise. On my travels through places and to the shops, I noticed a lot of people coughing/I heard a lot of people coughing. At first I thought "maybe a lot of people have quit smoking ready for stop-tober or whatever".

When I say i heard a lot of coughing, i mean, it's a frequent thing to hear from people walking passed the house, the man on the street or in the shops. It's wierd because I haven't heard anyone cough for well over 18 months. Maybe people were hiding coughs for fear of being labelled covid-positive or something, but it wasn't just hearing the cough but the high frequency of it, which would have been noticable even in pre-covid times.

Although, FWIW, i wouldn't test myself for covid. I don't wear a mask, do keep a 2M distance (even more if I see an elderly person with a mask on, while I think it's a load of bollox I do it for their peace of mind). If i felt very rough or shitty I wouldn't go out. If i felt a bit under the weather I would, just like I would if i had the flu.
Thanks for explaining, while I disagree with you not getting a test or wearing a mask. You did stay at home for the week, can't give you any shit for that even if you didn't get the test.

Good luck with quitting smoking.
 
And it was the retard unvaccinated who was the breeding ground for it. And they wonder why libs laugh at their FB posts of them fucking around and finding out.
Inb4 "but muh blacks are the most unvaccinated and they vote DEM!"
GO FUCK YOURSELF also enjoy the new mask mandates while i criuse around without a mask in my country
 
Good thing we still pushed for vaccinations even after Delta emerged, otherwise we wouldn't have a crisis now. Wonder what will happen next. Will we learn how to use mRNA vaccines now or is this just going to lead to the next mass vaccination with new ones that don't stop the spread, don't protect from all serotypes and largely focus on one epitope (spike protein)? Will we return back to reason as a society, will we finally find peace amon- oh, who am I kidding, this is just going to be the fault of the unvaccinated again, isn't it? Heckin' bigots and science deniers. Should've gotten the jab.

Edit: Maybe I'm too much of a doomer, it seems that the vaccines are mostly still working. The article there repeats again that

The significant impact of a single point mutation in the neutralizing activity of polyclonal sera highlights the need for the rapid characterization of SARS-CoV-2 variants.

but remains that

Therefore, it is important to aim for the highest titers possible induced by vaccination, as this should enhance the chances for protection even in the case of antigenic drift of circulating SARS-CoV-2 strains.

So, although the spike protein got changed a little, when you are vaccinated your high concentration of antibodies still seems to be protecting you relatively well. Same with those of you who already recovered.
 
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And it was the retard unvaccinated who was the breeding ground for it. And they wonder why libs laugh at their FB posts of them fucking around and finding out.
Inb4 "but muh blacks are the most unvaccinated and they vote DEM!"
The vax vs anti-vax debate in the UK is not comparable to what it is in the US at all. In the UK, Tory voters are overwhelmingly old and white, and the old and white are overwhelmingly vaccinated and mostly pro-lockdown. The least vaccinated areas in the UK are invariably urban and ethnically diverse areas.

This is also I think why vax passports aren't really getting off the ground in England at least. In the US the Dems can lecture at "dumb, stupid rednecks" who are refusing the vaccine. In the UK this would be much less politically correct, because our anti-vax people are mostly black or Muslim.
 
This is the UK you fucking dipshit. We don't have DEM's and this article specifically says pressure from the vaccinated.

If you're going to be a troll, at least be funny or clever. Being a dumb fucking retard isn't as entertaining.

OT: I think this has alread hit parts of the UK. Last week I got a 'flu' without the fever. Aches, headache, cough, sore throat, lots and lots of congestion. I thought it was just me, but going out and about i hear a lot of people coughing, more than I've heard over the last 18 months combined. Could be a coincidence, it could be the seasonal flu -even though the weather has been very good. Anyway, I'm over it.
Pressure from the vaccinated to take the vaccine you mongoloid. It was still the unvaccinated who were no doubt the breeding ground for this new variant. Or are you dumb enough to think it came from nowhere.
 
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Pressure from the vaccinated to take the vaccine you mongoloid. It was still the unvaccinated who were no doubt the breeding ground for this new variant. Or are you dumb enough to think it came from nowhere.
Yawn. You need some fresh material, you're getting boring.

Have you had your third vaccine yet you granny hating rethuglican anti-vaxxer?
 
This is a side effect of too many people being unvaccinated. The virus grows and develops into something stronger. Think of it like mold in a house. The more the mold grows, the stronger it gets.
 
Pressure from the vaccinated to take the vaccine you mongoloid. It was still the unvaccinated who were no doubt the breeding ground for this new variant
The new vaccine resistant mutation... came from the un-vaccinated.

Never mind that at least 82% of the U.K. is fully vaccinated, and never mind that you can still transmit the virus as much as an unvaccinated person after being vaccinated with at least the mRNA vacccines-- you're just being a fool, at this point.
 
This is a side effect of too many people being unvaccinated. The virus grows and develops into something stronger. Think of it like mold in a house. The more the mold grows, the stronger it gets.
It's not so simple. While it's true that the vaccines reduce transmissions and thus lower the chances of random mutations to happen, since most of our current mRNA vaccines are mostly only targeting the spike protein of the virus the result is a sort of selection in the vaccinated population for those strains that deviate from the expected spike protein. Unvaccinated people don't have that specific defense so when they get Covid it doesn't matter that much how the spike protein looks. This development was predicted before and that is the danger of these highly specialized vaccines.
 
It's not so simple. While it's true that the vaccines reduce transmissions and thus lower the chances of random mutations to happen, since most of our current mRNA vaccines are mostly only targeting the spike protein of the virus the result is a sort of selection in the vaccinated population for those strains that deviate from the expected spike protein. Unvaccinated people don't have that specific defense so when they get Covid it doesn't matter that much how the spike protein looks. This development was predicted before and that is the danger of these highly specialized vaccines.
So an explanation is that COVID is ever developing. Likely because it was manmade.
 
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