Plagued Nice Guys

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One of the commenters asked him how he'd feel if some chick he wasn't interested in did this to him, and he said that he'd give her a chance. :story:

That's what pretty much every 'nice guy' does and I guaran-fucking-tee you that if anything less than a supermodel wanted them they'd say no

But honestly they don't have to worry about it because generally they have the conversational powers of a drunken 5 year old and the charisma of a wet sack of noodles.
 
Yeah. Cutting off all contact after telling you she wasn't interested and you going stalker mcstalkington was totally her and not you, dude.
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The part where he went looking for her at her place of residency while talking to her on the phone really made me uncomfortable. It's one thing to show up unannounced to a place you're not welcome, but it's an entirely different one to inform them you're there in realtime when they want to know what the fuck you're doing there after they told you to leave them alone.
 
The question I'm left wondering is why he lied about the fundraiser being some posh gala full of tuxedos and ballgowns. Did he want people to think he was Bruce Wayne?


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As you can see, these screenshots hail from a webcomic called...The Nice Guy. Yeah. That really is what the creative forces behind this magnum opus of cringe decided to go with. And as you can see, they also doesn't have a very high opinion of women.

The site it was hosted on went down but the comic survives in archived form. You can check it out here.

https://web.archive.org/web/20070813224425/http://www.theniceguycomic.com:80/index.html
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Plot twist: You were the devil all along, Jeff.



This tweet gained some attention recently.
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Further explanation: (also implies that his friends are temporary lol gg)
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A few of his initial responses to criticism of the tweet:
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Well, he's got me sold on the fact that he doesn't emotionally invest in any woman. "Disagree with me? You're delusional lol"
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Literally: "You're in the wrong for wanting to be friends with me and not seeing that I only wanted to fuck you! FUCK OUTTA HERE!"

What a nice guy.
And don't just take it from me; he actually calls himself this.
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To his credit, he retweeted people who agreed and disagreed with him respectively, implying that he was open and accepting of the viewpoints presented to him.
His responses to those tweets, however, seem to imply otherwise.
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Women, it's not friendship, it's friendzone. Get it right; there's a huge difference.. apparently.

My most favourite part of all of this is that one whole day later, after receiving and responding to heavy criticism from other Twitter users, he posted the following tweet:
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I don't understand this issue?? If you aren't interested in just being friends with the person and the person isn't interested in dating you, just end the friendship.
Are women holding a gun to his head forcing him to be friends or what?

Fucking moron
The ''issue'' here is that the women don't want fuck him.

Funnily enough, it's the same issue that every other Nice Guy seems to have.

God forbid you encounter a woman that values you enough to want to be your friend. :|
 
He seems to not understand relationships can change in their nature. Just because she just wants to be friends now doesn't mean you won't grow on her later. If you respect the fact she just wants to be friends, and don't expect anything beyond that, you've shown you respect her choices. Don't be a creep by trying to be her bf when you're not, but getting bumped up from "friend" to "boyfriend" is not unheard of.
 
The question I'm left wondering is why he lied about the fundraiser being some posh gala full of tuxedos and ballgowns. Did he want people to think he was Bruce Wayne?
Like I said earlier, "finer things" = money = value = pussy.

He probably figured that it'd make him look better if people thought he attended these posh events. If nothing else, some girl reading it would see that and be like, "aww, you poor thing! Here, lemme suck your cock to make you feel better!"

I really hope that those messages from the boyfriend were real, though.
 
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Plot twist: You were the devil all along, Jeff.

He really isn't the saint we're supposed to see him as, huh?

In the Wine and Poody comic, Becki confides to Jeff that she's afraid her boyfriend might be cheating on her and he replies that she's worrying too much. But we're privy to his private thoughts and on the inside, he's sneering about how the guy probably cheats on her all the time. If he truly believes that she'll get hurt, why not speak his mind?

Because Jeff's role as Becki's confidant means he's the person she turns to when she's feeling upset about something. As much as he hates any rival for her affections, he jumps at the chance to spend time with her and he's not going to say or do anything that means she won't come over as much. He just pours her a glass of wine and tells her what she wants to hear, all while brooding about he'd be so much better for her if she would only give him the chance.

Jeff isn't Becki's friend. He's an opportunist who takes advantage of her in moments when she's vulnerable. And the writer expects us to feel so sad for him when it backfires and he ends the comic all alone in his apartment, gloomily aware that the only boob he'll be touching tonight...is himself.

He probably figured that it'd make him look better if people thought he attended these posh events. If nothing else, some girl reading it would see that and be like, "aww, you poor thing! Here, lemme suck your cock to make you feel better!"

And even in his own fantasy, Jennifer's boyfriend is way cooler than he could ever dream of being.
 
Chef Nol (like other Nice Guys) doesn't understand is that being there to listen to a woman's problems and keep her company isn't using him, or "friendzoning" him--that's how most women "do" friendship. Men generally don't interact in the same ways with their male friends in the ways that women do with their female friends, and failing to understand this (or ignoring it) creates a lot of the conflicts between men and women over "friendship."

[And I'm going to stop right here to draw attention to those words most, and generally, and point out that these words do not mean all, because if I don't someone is going to come along and powerlevel about how they don't do that, or NAWALT/NAMALT. If you're that person, who doesn't see your individual experience reflected in what I'm describing? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU.]

So when a woman says she wants to be friends with a guy who has admitted he's attracted to her, she usually means it. But if she's typical, she's going to approach the friendship with him in the same way she does with her female friends. And that includes a lot of talking about personal stuff, and venting about her personal problems (without necessarily seeking a solution). Being there for each other--including late-night texts, or going to someone's house just to hang out--is part of how women provide emotional support to each other in difficult times. Women friends have their share of fun, but they help each other out as needed. And that's part of why women tend to handle major life changes (such as divorce or the death of a spouse), better than men do, and have lower suicide rates.

I've seen red-pillers and other Manospherians accuse women of using their male friends as "emotional tampons"--which shows just how much those men fail to understand women, and what friendship means to women. They're not "using" men; they're interacting with them as they would their female friends--because they see those men as actual friends. They may not want to have sex with those men, but they see them as people who are interesting and whose company is desirable--they see them as fully human. But the kinds of men who end up here don't see women as having anything of real value to offer if pussy isn't part of the deal, and if pussy is not forthcoming, then it's pointless to interact with a woman at all--they're not like real humans.

Men's friendships generally don't involve the same kind or level of interpersonal, emotional sharing as women's do. It's not that men don't provide emotional support for each other, but they do it in very different ways than women do, most of which don't involve talking about the problem. And when single men do open up? It's likely to be to a brother, or their very best bud, who they know they can trust. If they do so to a woman, it will be to one they feel no sexual attraction to.

So we have two completely different styles of relating to other humans as "friends," and both sexes are guilty of failing to understand how friendship for the other sex works. Women make good-faith offers of friendship to men, without understanding that men have different expectations for friendships than women do, and that treating them as "one of the girls" is a bad idea. And men, not understanding how women's friendships work (and, in many cases, not caring because they see them as inferior), get angry and claim women are using them, when that is not the case.

And Chef Nol is exactly one of these guys. If there's no pussy forthcoming, women aren't worth interacting with, and their friendship has no value. He tolerates women in order to have sex with them, but genuine non-sexual interest in his company on the part of women is "using" him.
 
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^Beautifully put. And this is also why women don't want to be around him and his stank 'tude; it wafts off of him in visible waves.

I mean, if a dude isn't going to care about you on a casual level, he's not going to care about you after you wet his dick for him. He's just mad most women are smart enough to put two and two together in order to reach the conclusion before getting in that onesided relationship.
 
As far as I can tell, the big difference is that a man, would have sex anyday with one of his cute female friends, if offered the chance.
A woman would never have sex, with a man that she sees as a friend.
That's all it boils down to, when discussing interpersonal reletionships between sexes.

I think that's simplifying things a bit too much

There are lots of women who'd like a casual fuckbuddy with a male friend of theirs, and there are lots of men who wouldn't consider just fucking one their women friends

I think Angry New Ager nailed it with her post. This idea that ladies are much more prudish than guys is a load of bunk imo
 
Chef Nol (like other Nice Guys) doesn't understand is that being there to listen to a woman's problems and keep her company isn't using him, or "friendzoning" him--that's how most women "do" friendship. Men generally don't interact in the same ways with their male friends in the ways that women do with their female friends, and failing to understand this (or ignoring it) creates a lot of the conflicts between men and women over "friendship."

[And I'm going to stop right here to draw attention to those words most, and generally, and point out that these words do not mean all, because if I don't someone is going to come along and powerlevel about how they don't do that, or NAWALT/NAMALT. If you're that person, who doesn't see your individual experience reflected in what I'm describing? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU.]

So when a woman says she wants to be friends with a guy who has admitted he's attracted to her, she usually means it. But if she's typical, she's going to approach the friendship with him in the same way she does with her female friends. And that includes a lot of talking about personal stuff, and venting about her personal problems (without necessarily seeking a solution). Being there for each other--including late-night texts, or going to someone's house just to hang out--is part of how women provide emotional support to each other in difficult times. Women friends have their share of fun, but they help each other out as needed. And that's part of why women tend to handle major life changes (such as divorce or the death of a spouse), better than men do, and have lower suicide rates.

I've seen red-pillers and other Manospherians accuse women of using their male friends as "emotional tampons"--which shows just how much those men fail to understand women, and what friendship means to women. They're not "using" men; they're interacting with them as they would their female friends--because they see those men as actual friends. They may not want to have sex with those men, but they see them as people who are interesting and whose company is desirable--they see them as fully human. But the kinds of men who end up here don't see women as having anything of real value to offer if pussy isn't part of the deal, and if pussy is not forthcoming, then it's pointless to interact with a woman at all--they're not like real humans.

Men's friendships generally don't involve the same kind or level of interpersonal, emotional sharing as women's do. It's not that men don't provide emotional support for each other, but they do it in very different ways than women do, most of which don't involve talking about the problem. And when single men do open up? It's likely to be to a brother, or their very best bud, who they know they can trust. If they do so to a woman, it will be to one they feel no sexual attraction to.

So we have two completely different styles of relating to other humans as "friends," and both sexes are guilty of failing to understand how friendship for the other sex works. Women make good-faith offers of friendship to men, without understanding that men have different expectations for friendships than women do, and that treating them as "one of the girls" is a bad idea. And men, not understanding how women's friendships work (and, in many cases, not caring because they see them as inferior), get angry and claim women are using them, when that is not the case.

And Chef Nol is exactly one of these guys. If there's no pussy forthcoming, women aren't worth interacting with, and their friendship has no value. He tolerates women in order to have sex with them, but genuine non-sexual interest in his company on the part of women is "using" him.
To be fair, what you're saying is completely true but not something that a lot of young adults actually understand. It takes some conversing and thought to realize out that both sexes have completely different expectations for what friendship entails. Socially unaware "nice guys" aren't ever going to figure out because they're not interested in female companionship, they just want a living fuckdoll. I find that rather funny, because it's entirely possible to just befriend someone of the opposite sex and then later start having sex with them on the side, no strings attached.

Of course for that to happen you'd have to be desirable in some way...
 
I think that's simplifying things a bit too much

There are lots of women who'd like a casual fuckbuddy with a male friend of theirs, and there are lots of men who wouldn't consider just fucking one their women friends

I think Angry New Ager nailed it with her post. This idea that ladies are much more prudish than guys is a load of bunk imo

I was talking about people getting together in a reletionship. I Should have been more clear.
For a man, the only difference between a female friend and a girlfriend is the sex, if you think about it. Doing the upgrade from friend to partner is something (of course is the girl is cute) that very few men would refuse.
For a woman is different. If she sees you as a friend, good luck making her change her mind and do the upgrade, even if youre a cute guy.

Of course there are exceptions and all, but from what ive seen around me, that's the norm.
 
I was talking about people getting together in a reletionship. I Should have been more clear.
For a man, the only difference between a female friend and a girlfriend is the sex, if you think about it. Doing the upgrade from friend to partner is something (of course is the girl is cute) that very few men would refuse.
For a woman is different. If she sees you as a friend, good luck making her change her mind and do the upgrade, even if youre a cute guy.

Of course there are exceptions and all, but from what ive seen around me, that's the norm.
You have like, no experience with women, do you?
 
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He honestly thought that this was what he should say to a woman who presumably knows who he is and can show this evidence of him threatening her to his employer/the police/everyone he knows? By the end of his tantrum, it feels like she's the one who should be threatening to ruin his life unless he leaves her alone from now on!

How does this guy manage to function in daily life, let alone in a workplace?
 
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Wow that is one sad exchange. How can they not see how pathetic they make themselves look?

Also the whore, slut, etc insult always makes me giggle, you are claiming this girl is super easy but yet you aren't getting any, despite trying so haaard. Doesn't exactly put them in a good light.
 
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He honestly thought that this was what he should say to a woman who presumably knows who he is and can show this evidence of him threatening her to his employer/the police/everyone he knows? By the end of his tantrum, it feels like she's the one who should be threatening to ruin his life unless he leaves her alone from now on!

How does this guy manage to function in daily life, let alone in a workplace?
Throwing slurs around like a COD kid is really good for your next resume.
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