Plagued Nice Guys

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Honestly, anyone who rates people on some numerical scale based on "attractiveness" is insanely autistic to me. I don't get the idea of trying to put a number to the looks of a person, not to mention the issues with basing relationships solely on appearances and the litany of other problems.

Oh yeah, I totally agree, I was just using the rating scale in an attempt to explain things.

To Nice Guys, the only thing that matters about women is how hot they are. There could be a super hot girl who is a total vapid bitch with no consideration for other people whatsoever but there will always be at least one guy who tells her that she's the sweetest person on the planet in an attempt to get into her pants.

Also, this is a perfect analogy to the whole "She says she can't find the right guy when I'm right here!" argument...

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Also, this is a perfect analogy to the whole "She says she can't find the right guy when I'm right here!" argument...

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It pretty much is exactly like that, too.

Nobody wants a dude who thinks going around finding hot dogs on the ground to eat is a way to satisfy hunger.
 
Oh yeah, I totally agree, I was just using the rating scale in an attempt to explain things.

To Nice Guys, the only thing that matters about women is how hot they are. There could be a super hot girl who is a total vapid bitch with no consideration for other people whatsoever but there will always be at least one guy who tells her that she's the sweetest person on the planet in an attempt to get into her pants.

It's one of those nasty traits bubbling just under the surface of a Nice Guy, he'll swear up and down that he just wants a relationship, and he respects women, all of them, seriously, ALL OF THEM ALL THE TIME.... but won't give the time of day to one who isn't modle-grade in the looks department. He won't come out and SAY that, but, his actions betray what he's thinking all the same.

He knows it's not socially acceptable to dump on a woman for her looks, so he does his best to hide it, while still saying how "nice" he is..... convinced the fact he doesn't advertize it is just as good as being one of those guys that don't THINK like that in the first place.

That is the essence of the facade the Nice Guy constructs around him, deep down inside, they feel entitled to attractive sexual partners, but know coming out and saying it will get them labeled a creep, so they invent their own martyrdom, the guy who deserves the hot girl for how beautifully he suffers the machinations of a cruel world...... it's window dressing, but they see no reason why aping the mannerisms of a virtuous person isn't the same as actually being one, and why they get so angry when your average person sees right through it.
 
Honestly, anyone who rates people on some numerical scale based on "attractiveness" is insanely autistic to me. I don't get the idea of trying to put a number to the looks of a person, not to mention the issues with basing relationships solely on appearances and the litany of other problems.

I always took the scale to be meant subjectively and based entirely on personal preference. That being said, I find it ridiculous and vague when redpillers spout out all these numbers like concrete examples of a woman's value.
 
I love guys who are like "I'm right here!!" when they hear that girls are looking for the right guy, like they're some diamond in the rough.

Newsflash. If you were that awesome, you probably wouldn't be single.

And even if you told them that they wouldn't believe you. To admit that the problem might be with them and their entitled, shitty attitudes and deeply misogynistic views on women and sex would be a blow their over-inflated egos simple couldn't stand. It's much easier to blame women for not seeing how awesome they are, even if deep down they know that's a lie. But the lie is comforting and easy while serious introspection is difficult, and so they will believe it even if it makes their goals unobtainable and put all their hopes on their dream 10/10 sex robot just falling into their laps with no effort on their part.
 
@An Ounce of Vagina SOmetimes they can flip in the span of the 3 minutes it takes to read and respond to someone's texts. Stop me if THIS sounds familiar:

Girl: My boyfriend really annoys me sometimes

NG: I'd NEVER do that to you! I respect you sooooooooooooooo much, so, wanna have sex?

Girl: What? I don't even know you

NG: You nasty skank! I KNEW you were only in it for yourself! Well I didn't want to fuck you anyway, you're probably DISEASED! Have fun being slapped around by your big black boyfriend, and don't bother asking me for a second chance when you're in the emergency room being treated for a broken arm AND herpes!!!!
 
All this talk reminds me of two things I have about the use of Nice Guys in media. One, any man who actually peruses women is portrayed as a jerk (this goes double if it's for the object of the Nice Guy's attention). The second is that the constantly obsess over the girl and have no real life outside of her. (Which was the reason I couldn't stand Nitz from Undergrads.) This review of the Nice Guy Comic I did years ago goes more into it.
 
Storytime:

There's a guy in my circle that everybody calls 'Bear', because that's his favourite animal. Bear isn't an overtly hateful guy and isn't completely socially retarded. He's had girlfriends, was once engaged, has a job, and doesn't live with his mother (anymore). He's also a Nice Guy. He brags about being a 'gentleman' and 'too nice', but he won't interact with women except when he's trying to get them to fuck him. He doesn't get violent or aggressive when turned down, which he almost always is. He just sighs and laments being 'too nice' and goes after the next girl.

He would have much better luck were it not for his ludicrously high standards. He will only go for literal model-quality girls. He has a weight limit for potential dates (I'm a US10 size and he told me I was 'too fat' for his tastes, even though I wasn't even interested in him and had a boyfriend anyway) and will tell them frankly and unapologetically that he won't go out with them because they're 'too big'. Even when they're clearly very interested in him. I remember this girl once being all over Bear and couldn't have been more obvious if she'd put her hands in his pants and said 'Do me right here!' She was cute, but she was very slightly chubby and also had a hearing aid. Bear turned her down because she was 'over the size limit' (his words exactly) and also partially disabled. Bear is, not incidentally, at least 300 pounds, and an unkempt mess with a bit of a neckbeard.

He wonders why he can't get laid. Everyone else wonders why he wonders why he can't get laid.
 
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There's a guy in my circle that everybody calls 'Bear', because that's his favourite animal. Bear isn't an overtly hateful guy and isn't completely socially retarded. He's had girlfriends, was once engaged, has a job, and doesn't live with his mother (anymore). He's also a Nice Guy. He brags about being a 'gentleman' and 'too nice', but he won't interact with women except when he's trying to get them to fuck him. He doesn't get violent or aggressive when turned down, which he almost always is. He just sighs and laments being 'too nice' and goes after the next girl.

He would have much better luck were it not for his ludicrously high standards. He will only go for literal model-quality girls. He has a weight limit for potential dates (I'm a US10 size and he told me I was 'too fat' for his tastes, even though I wasn't even interested in him and had a boyfriend anyway) and will tell them frankly and unapologetically that he won't go out with them because they're 'too big'. Even when they're clearly very interested in him. I remember this girl once being all over Bear and couldn't have been more obvious if she'd put her hands in his pants and said 'Do me right here!' She was cute, but she was very slightly chubby and also had a hearing aid. Bear turned her down because she was 'over the size limit' (his words exactly) and also partially disabled. Bear is, not incidentally, at least 300 pounds, and an unkempt mess with a bit of a neckbeard.

He wonders why he can't get laid. Everyone else wonders why he wonders why he can't get laid.
A big hairy guy named bear. Makes him sound like he's a regular at gay bars.
 
Also, this is a perfect analogy to the whole "She says she can't find the right guy when I'm right here!" argument...

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And eating that hotdog on the ground can cause some problems. It's on that same note dating the guy who wrote that wouldn't be the best experience for her, especially since one would have their own preferences.
 
Also, this is a perfect analogy to the whole "She says she can't find the right guy when I'm right here!" argument...

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I think people are kind of misunderstanding this post, or maybe I am. I read it as satirical; the OP isn't serious, they're just showing how dumb the whole "she says she can't find a guy but I'm right here!" argument is.
 
I'd agree, except he might just be that dense after all, there have been a couple examples of these guys telling off a woman they were hitting on via social media, demanding an apology (for not recognizing their niceness) and then saying "I'm waiting" or "I'm still here" in the same page/thread, oblivious that everyone else has stopped listening to the petulant little manchild.

Some literally think the issue is that they aren't being noticed... not noticed, and disregarded.

ED: Actually, they probably think the woman is too dumb to realize they're waiting.... not that she doesn't care.
 
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