Plagued Nice Guys

[escapegoat]

A lot of these dudes don't get that smiling is a de-escalation tactic that a woman can use to stall until an escape is available. She's smiling like a maniac and keeping you in her field of vision constantly, so you don't stick her in a pit and turn her into a lady suit, Buffalo Bill.

 

[Beaniebon]

When will they understand if they're only being nice to a woman to get her to put out (or date them, ect.) then they aren't actually being nice and women can see through that shit

 

[councilman les whinen]

A lot of these dudes don't get that smiling is a de-escalation tactic that a woman can use to stall until an escape is available. She's smiling like a maniac and keeping you in her field of vision constantly, so you don't stick her in a pit and turn her into a lady suit, Buffalo Bill.

NOOOOO BECAUSE LIKE, IF SHE SMILES AT YOU AND YOU CAN SEE HER PUPILS DILATE THEN IT MEANS SHE WANTS TO HAVE SEX SO THEN YOU HAVE TO SEND HER SUBLIMINAL CUES LIKE MOUTHING WORDS LIKE "BLOWJOB" AND "ANAL" MID CONVERSATION WHILE SUBTLY THRUSTING YOUR PELVIS IN HER DIRECTION.

 

[JaneThough]

This issue is that, for the most part, these guys don't understand that women are human beings...like them.

 

[LtCucumber]

When will they understand if they're only being nice to a woman to get her to put out (or date them, ect.) then they aren't actually being nice and women can see through that shit

Like another user said, women can smell that sense of entitlement- they think they're owed something for doing something nice that they say is just because they're nice.

Honestly; if you had the option of even being friends with either someone who was nice just because they're nice and doesn't expect anything in return for friendship, or someone who was nice to you because they thought they could get something out of it, which would you choose?

 

[councilman les whinen]

Like another user said, women can smell that sense of entitlement- they think they're owed something for doing something nice that they say is just because they're nice.

Honestly; if you had the option of even being friends with either someone who was nice just because they're nice and doesn't expect anything in return for friendship, or someone who was nice to you because they thought they could get something out of it, which would you choose?

You usually can't tell the difference between the two before it's too late. these assholes need to be chemically castrated because the entire world will end up just being jaded and guarded because they'll assume any person that acts even remotely civilized is some opportunistic asshole.

 

[Miss Hortensia]

these assholes need to be chemically castrated

O wow, calm down. Yes, these dudes (and gals) may be a nuisance to their "victims" and sometimes they go too far with their neverending bitching and ranting, but they aren't the majority of unlucky singles looking for a significant other.

 

[councilman les whinen]

O wow, calm down. Yes, these dudes (and gals) may be a nuisance to their "victims" and sometimes they go too far with their neverending bitching and ranting, but they aren't the majority of unlucky singles looking for a significant other.

OK well look, if a guy is doing all this stupid passive aggressive low grade machiavellian shit just to get some ass, so if they got chemically castrated and would no longer seek ass, then they wouldn't act like that. That's why I specified "chemical" castration. It's totally reversible as far as I know. Just some pills to make you less horny.

 

[LtCucumber]

You usually can't tell the difference between the two before it's too late. these assholes need to be chemically castrated because the entire world will end up just being jaded and guarded because they'll assume any person that acts even remotely civilized is some opportunistic asshole.

That's the only problem, people not realising until the nice guy asks them out. God help anyone who goes on a date with these backward-ass guys.

It's kinda hilarious and annoying when people expect something in return for just them being nice. I think a lot of people feel the same because it's kinda like someone's being friends with you was only conditional.
I mean if a girl was thinking "someone wants to be friends with me, that's nice" and thinks that he's friends with her because he likes her as a person, (then again this goes for anyone and most likely is how friendship works, A is friends with B because they have common ground/shared interests/etc and actually enjoy their company without expecting something in return for their friendship) then imagine how shit will go down when he calls her every name in the book for not picking up on barely there signals, or just plain not being interested.
It's a dumb concept made worse by people who aren't self aware enough to realize that their being single is their fault.

See also; the reason why feminists think all men are pigs and want sex- nice guys.

 

[DrJonesHat]

@councilman les whinen You're getting too wrapped up in this. Calm down.

 

[Taily Puff]

O wow, calm down. Yes, these dudes (and gals) may be a nuisance to their "victims" and sometimes they go too far with their neverending bitching and ranting, but they aren't the majority of unlucky singles looking for a significant other.

Right. Nice Guys are just annoying.

It's the incels that need to be castrated.

 

[Lackadaisy]

Right. Nice Guys are just annoying.

It's the incels that need to be castrated.

Don't forget the pedos and the dogfuckers.

 

[SamTheEagle]

A lot of these dudes don't get that smiling is a de-escalation tactic that a woman can use to stall until an escape is available.

This. It's one of the things I love about the Snuff Box boyfriend sketches:

Part of what makes it feel real (and funnier) is the forced smiles and awkward body language of the women. It's subtly done, but most noticeable with the first girl and at 2:18.

I don't know if I want to feel sorry for these guys, to be honest.

I don't know, is there a difference between pitying someone and feeling sorry for them? I feel like I'm in the former camp. Some Nice Guys genuinely don't realize just how creepy and entitled they're being, and just need a few rejections and an honest look at themselves to start fixing the problem. The ones who cuss girls out for turning them down or not replying within five minutes deserve less sympathy, though.

 

[Butta Face Lopez]

@councilman les whinen You're getting too wrapped up in this. Calm down.

I'd say Councilman Les Whinen should do more thinkin' and less whinin'

 

[invalid]

I didn't realize how big the market is for this stuff, I just found out about this return of kings site and others like them. They seem to do the same clickbaity stuff that other sites do except they are designed around confirming guys own biases about women and telling them they are right and all women are hoes. In the same way some social justice site confirms what the reader already knew, everything is sexist, and Trump will destroy the earth.

I guess thats the business model of journalism these days. No site encourages you to think, they all tell you what to think. Or more like "what you already think is the right thing to think"

 

[escapegoat]

"What you are willing to click on is the right thing to think." It's all about that page view revenue.

 

[The Valeyard]

 

[councilman les whinen]

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That's a common theme in that whole movement, the whole mgtow and nice guys shit, but it's inherently flawed. There *are* women that are like that, the ones that don't cook or clean or whatever, and there *are* a lot of them, but:
1. They'll never ever cry 10 years later about the lack of good men; they will stubbornly do those exact same things they were doing before. It's human nature. People rarely get these magical epiphanies where they realize something, whether it's men or women. That shit happens only in movies. Go on any dating site: there are women in their late 30s, 40s, and even 50s that continue to have those standards.

2. Her idea of a good man is literally right fucking there! 6ft tall, rich and hot. It's a little vain, sure, but those guys are not going to disappear 10 years later unless she moves to Ubangi and hooks up with a reclusive pygmy tribe.

 

[Vorhtbame]

What I'm saying is that these guys assume that things like common courtesy and manners are an end and not means to an end.

And that's the thing. It's a longstanding rule of etiquette that if you invite someone to do something with you, you cover the costs--man or woman, and regardless of the guest's sex--unless you specifically agree otherwise. You do it because the pleasure of their social company is worth the cost to you, not because you expect "reciprocation" afterward. It so happens that men usually pay for dates because they usually ask the lady.

 

[LtCucumber]

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If they're saying their partner needs to do all the work, no wonder they're single. Because they clearly can't pull the weight in a fucking household if they're relying on their partner to cook and clean for them. What next will they say, not willing to wipe their ass or something?
This goes for anyone really; like if a woman relied on the man to do all the cooking/cleaning clearly they're too immature to be an adult and have the capability to cook and/or clean for themselves. Then again the guys who post this sort of idiocy are probably 23 and living in their mum's basement and are used to having someone do everything for them.

I don't see how not wanting kids is a bad thing- I mean if a guy is thinking of having kids early on into the relationship; back dat ass up dude. You're gonna scare the women away by getting too serious too soon. This may seem really odd and/or stupid, but someone complaining about a woman not wanting kids seems like the sort of person who would take off the condom mid sex just because he wants to have kids even though she isn't as willing- it can't just be me that gets that impression.

Then again someone complaining about the concept that women, god forbid, have standards in the first place, probably shouldn't date and maybe should steer clear of breeding too.