Plagued Nice Guys

Cracker Jack said:
I haven't read every single page of this thread, but I tried searching for r/legaladvice and similar to see if it had popped up here.

Nice guy gets slapped down with "a fucking cease and desist letter" after stalking and harassing his crush. Poceeds to be humiliated every which way after whining about it on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/6ebbq9/had_a_falling_out_with_the_girl_i_love_and_got

The (deleted) x-post from r/relationships: https://www.ceddit.com/r/relationsh..._girl_19f_i_21m_am_in_love_with_thinks_i_am_a

The heartwarming follow-up that will restore some of your faith in humanity. Proof that there is still hope for some of these jokers: https://www.ceddit.com/r/legaladvic...te_had_a_falling_out_with_the_girl_i_love_and

It's a wild ride. I was winded after my first read-through.
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Maybe I'm retarded but the ceddit links don't show anything.
 
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vertexwindi said:
Maybe I'm exceptional but the ceddit links don't show anything.
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Dude, that is too bad! I'll post a screencap of the first post, but much of the gold is in how he replies to comments. Those threads really made me understand a thing or two about this kind of behaviour. It's worth a read for the prychology nerds among us.

https://imgur.com/a/mlxPY - will upload with image later. The site won't let me upload files right now, for some reason.
 
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I love this.

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"This is outrageous, it's unfair!"
 
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Cracker Jack said:
I haven't read every single page of this thread, but I tried searching for r/legaladvice and similar to see if it had popped up here.

Nice guy gets slapped down with "a fucking cease and desist letter" after stalking and harassing his crush. Poceeds to be humiliated every which way after whining about it on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/6ebbq9/had_a_falling_out_with_the_girl_i_love_and_got

The (deleted) x-post from r/relationships: https://www.ceddit.com/r/relationsh..._girl_19f_i_21m_am_in_love_with_thinks_i_am_a

The heartwarming follow-up that will restore some of your faith in humanity. Proof that there is still hope for some of these jokers: https://www.ceddit.com/r/legaladvic...te_had_a_falling_out_with_the_girl_i_love_and

It's a wild ride. I was winded after my first read-through.
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On the one hand, the ending shows there is hope for 'nice guys' to grow enough self-awareness to intervene or accept outside intervention. On the other, there will be others that don't get it simply because movie logic will SURELY happen to them.
 
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Problem is nice guys will take our constructive criticism as "being nice means fuck all" and/or "theres no advantage/value in being nice". Then they will loose the friends/family around them that they do have because they believe that being a dick is the way to get a girl to like you
 
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WhatNemesisMeans said:
I wonder what qualifies as an abusive boyfriend by their standards. It seems not showering your gf with gifts and not peppering your speech with five dollars word automatically places you in the scum category.
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In terms of abusive boyfriends, I think I’d personally prefer a Spencer Tracy style slap as a means of settling an argument, to the passive aggressive word salad feelings texts spewing from the Nice Guys.
 
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I tend to see love a bit like respect: it must be earned, especially the romantic kind.
Earning love doesn't mean to have good looks or lots of money, or a good social status, but by being an actual nice person (not a nice guy) and a decent human being. I believe there's a match for everyone, and what it takes to find it is to do good and live well. It's not at all like in movies, were gals go for edgy, dark and troubled guys; or unsecure, barely unable to speak a complete sentence and greasy weaboos.
 
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Heinrich Himmler said:
I tend to see love a bit like respect: it must be earned, especially the romantic kind.
Earning love doesn't mean to have good looks or lots of money, or a good social status, but by being an actual nice person (not a nice guy) and a decent human being. I believe there's a match for everyone, and what it takes to find it is to do good and live well. It's not at all like in movies, were gals go for edgy, dark and troubled guys; or unsecure, barely unable to speak a complete sentence and greasy weaboos.
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Hmm.. I disagree with you there. I dont think being a nice decent guy is enough to find love or attract interest. Telling young and upcoming teenagers that being a decent human being is all you need to find love can be misleading. Because after a while they will feel disorientated (because most teenagers are decent guys who need a bit of direction) and lied to. I would tell them to have values, principles and goals and nothing guarantee d in life. And that becoming intimate and having a romantic partner is a SUPPLEMENT to a good life, not a need in order to live a good healthy life. There has to be some kind of physical attraction Initially. And Im very cautious of "theres someone for everyone" statement.

I do believe there are a small portion of guys who arent cut out to date. Obviously plan A for most guys would be to get married and settle down eventually. But not all guys can achieve plan A, despite many dating sites, dating coaches ect ect. What we need to stop or reduce the amount of nice guys/incels/ER/disorientated young men is a PLAN B. Making peace with being single. Not defining yourself or obssessing yourself on what you cant have. I dont mean MGTOW, because they are a bunch of whining idiots. I acknowledge that naturally men arent used to doing that (Plan B) so this might be harder to achieve but I do think we need it.
 
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I think parents need to do a better job at making sure their sons don't turn out like this.
Sign him up for sports. Sign him up for activities where there will be girls. Get him tested for autism, ADHD, and depression, and get treatment if he needs it. Only you can prevent the next generation of nice guys!
 
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Crunchy Leaf said:
I think parents need to do a better job at making sure their sons don't turn out like this.
Sign him up for sports. Sign him up for activities where there will be girls. Get him tested for autism, ADHD, and depression, and get treatment if he needs it. Only you can prevent the next generation of nice guys!
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I disagree about medicating, I think it would make the situation worse. If anything we need sports+proper diet+supplements. Basically get them to a point where they don't estrogenicly rage at girls.
 
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Jewed Hunter said:
I disagree about medicating, I think it would make the situation worse. If anything we need sports+proper diet+supplements. Basically get them to a point where they don't estrogenicly rage at girls.
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I was thinking more along the lines of therapy than medication, honestly. Fix those thought patterns before they become entrenched.
 
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