Nintendo Source code leak - source for games, DS emulator, prototypes and more

[TrippinKahlua]

I look most forward to whatever is in the Super Mario RPG documents. That game was always chock-full of history, has a very lengthy TCRF page, and even has actual proof of Luigi once having a bigger role at one point.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Video of that prototype game in the files

Cant tell if this game is blessed or cursed

Looks like Rayman if it was made for the 16bit consoles instead of the 32bit ones.

 

[whatever I feel like]

This is like the 3rd nintendo leak this year lmfao.

Its the same leak (and by leak I mean theft, which happened over two years ago,) they parceled shit out.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

They just want their loyal consoomers to rebuy the old games everytime they shit out a new console.

Isn't that every video game company, though?

 

[No Face]

Also rumour is that there is more to come. Earthbound 64 has been tossed around a lot but I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[TrippinKahlua]

https://twitter.com/Protodude/status/1286756366741377026

Oh be still my heart!

 

[Rosemary]

All I really know about games and shit is play. What the fuck does this mean?

 

[tehpope]

Looks like Rayman if it was made for the 16bit consoles instead of the 32bit ones.

We already have that. Rayman's creator showed it off a few years ago

 

[No Face]

Interestingly there is a document inside the star fox 2 repository that shows the Argonaut programmers talking about how amazing the PS1 is going to be, and discussing the hardware and if its realistic or not. No wonder Nintendo dropped them, given their paranoia about 2nd party loyalty:

Spoiler: the text

Hardware Specifications
Thus dids't the Playstation come forth from the dark alleys of Tokyo... This
is one serious gaming machine. SNES, Megadrive, 32X, Jaguar and 3DO all pale
besides this monster. The PSX has 5 processors running concurrently, similar
to the Atari Jaguar. Then main processor is the powerful LSI R3000A 32 bit
RISC processor, running at 33.8 Mhz. In addition to it, there is a 66 MIPS
High-speed Matrix Processor for calculating 3D polygons, there is a graphics
processor for displaying sprites (2D) at 60 frames a second, a sound
processor for doing CD quality sound and a 80 MIPS Data Expansion Engine
for decompressing graphics and sound data from the CD-ROM.
What does it all mean? Well, this machine is built for 3D! And since that
is where the games are going, we're all set. (In all fairness it should be
mentioned that the Sega Saturn is on par with, if not better than, the PSX
on 2D scrolling games, note 2D only. However, this is not a problem since
these machines are lightyears ahead of the competition anyways!)

CPU
∑ R3000A 32bit RISC chip @ 33.8mhz - Manufactured by LSI Logic Corp.
∑ Clearing capacity: 30 MIPS
∑ Bus bandwidth: 132 Mb/sec
As stated above, a very kuel CPU, slamming the 68000 in the Jaguar and the
ARM 60 in the 3DO, even the Hitachis in the Saturn! A high bus bandwith is
important when using lots of colors in fast moving animations! (Like
Tohshinden)

3D Geometry Engine
∑ High speed matrix calculator
∑ Clearing capacity: 66 MIPS
∑ 1.5 million flat-shaded polygons/sec
∑ 500,000 texture-mapped and light-sourced polygons/sec
Ahhh, the key to the ultimate 3D performance. Note, however that the above
specs are rather optimistic. There is a slight difference between displaying
random polygons on screen and calculating whether or not a polygon will be
visible or not as the arm is lifted in defense, then shown according to the
position it is in. Toshinden achieves 80.000 of the latter polygons, a very
impressive number for such an early game. Expect this to increase as the
programmers really get to know the hardware. Luckily the Playstation
development setup is hailed as being among the best in the industry.

Data Engine (MDEC)
∑ Clearing capacity: 80 MIPS
∑ CPU, direct bus connection
∑ Also compatible with JPEG, MPEG1, H.261 files
A very important player. It even helps cutting down load time, since the
data can be loaded from the CD in compressed form, then uncompressed on the
fly by this baby! Note the support for industry formats, not just
proprietary.

Sound
∑ ADPCM, 24 channels
∑ Sampling frequency: 44.1 Khz
CD quality sound! What more could you ask for... Well, since you ask, it
would have been nice if it had a little bit better sound support. By all
means, it is great for using sound of the CD, but more or less incapable
of producing sound on its own. Oh well, you won't notice it!

Graphics
∑ 16.7 million colors
∑ Resolution: 256x224 - 740x480
∑ Sprite/BG drawing
∑ Adjustable frame buffer
∑ No line restriction
∑ Unlimited CLUTs (Color Look-Up Tables)
∑ 4,000 8x8 pixel sprites with individual scaling and rotation
∑ Simultaneous backgrounds (Parallax scrolling)
∑ 360,000 polygons/sec
Why do people question these specs? OK, so the Saturn might be a bit
better on 2D, but read the specs again. Parodius has some slowdown, NOT
because of lacking hardware, but due to programmers not used to the system
. Raiden has less slowdown, i.e. more experienced programmers. So in
6-9 months we should see no more slowdowns in 2D scrolling games. Relax,
the hardware CAN handle it!

Memory
∑ Main RAM: 2 Megabytes
∑ VRAM: 1 Megabyte
∑ Sound RAM: 512 K
∑ CD-ROM buffer: 256K
∑ Operating System ROM: 512K
∑ RAM cards for data save: 128K EEprom
Hey, it's more RAM than any others console out there! Stuff can be stored
in RAM in compressed form, then uncompressed on the fly in game. So don't
expect that this will limit its performance. (You just can't compare how
much RAM the PSX has vs. a PC. It is a totally different concept!)

CD-ROM
∑ Double speed
∑ XA compliant
It's faster than any of ther other CD systems out there! And they sometimes
even let you play games while you are waiting. (We're talking 6-7
seconds.....)

 

[tehpope]

So in the lha files inside the Star Fox folder is the source code. And the paths.asm file lists the game as Star Glider, an earlier game by Argonaut. Wikipedia said they wanted to ported it to the NES using an earlier version of the SuperFX chip but Nintendo told them to port it to SNES since NES was outdated. They apparently did in a week. I guess at some point Nin said to create an original IP since SG was ported to a ton of PC platforms by that point.

 

[Bussy Catalog]

This year has been absolutely wild for video game leaks. All of this is pretty good stuff, but that Super Donkey game is especially interesting because it's obviously a very early protoype build of Yoshi's Island. The visual style, enemies, and the way the main character moves are all clearly indicative of that, and the idea that YI may have evolved from a completely unrelated game SMB2-style is intriguing. The name seems to imply that it's related to Donkey Kong, but nothing in it looks very Kong-esque to me except that the character looks kind of like the guy from the DK3 arcade game. I'd love to know what the creative processes behind the change were, and what the original concept for the game was, because the prototype is too barebones to make much of a judgement from.

 

[werbwub]

Its possible Star Fox is capped at 15 fps to not overload the SuperFX chip. And even if it was uncapped, the SuperFX on its own is too slow to run 60fps. Maybe a PC port could run it like that.

You can actually play Starfox at a higher fps by using a SNES emulator that allows overclocking the virtual SNES.
EX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysszaj00Cqw

 

[tehpope]

You can actually play Starfox at a higher fps by using a SNES emulator that allows overclocking the virtual SNES.
EX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysszaj00Cqw

Yeah you can do that too.

 

[Ponchik]

if that brownie brown earthbound 64 cart actually surfaces eventually and is made publicly available as a rom dump then i fucking guarantee my creamy jizz will flood at least four major american metropolitan areas

 

[Judge Dredd]

I'd love to see those source codes, especially StarFox. I'm always curious about how early 3D games work, but any of these will be interesting to look at.

 

[tehpope]

NEWS/テープリストア/NEWS_05/home/watanabe/INDY
from the news_05.tar

Possibly early n64 stuff. Indy was the name of the SGI workstations Nintendo used for 64 dev kits and based the n64 around.

 

[whatever I feel like]

This year has been absolutely wild for video game leaks. All of this is pretty good stuff, but that Super Donkey game is especially interesting because it's obviously a very early protoype build of Yoshi's Island. The visual style, enemies, and the way the main character moves are all clearly indicative of that, and the idea that YI may have evolved from a completely unrelated game SMB2-style is intriguing. The name seems to imply that it's related to Donkey Kong, but nothing in it looks very Kong-esque to me except that the character looks kind of like the guy from the DK3 arcade game. I'd love to know what the creative processes behind the change were, and what the original concept for the game was, because the prototype is too barebones to make much of a judgement from.

There is a complete set of graphics for old-style Donkey Kong in one of the Super Donkey builds. And its all jungle themed, and there are monkey enemies.

 

[Marissa Moira]

NEWS/テープリストア/NEWS_05/home/watanabe/INDY
from the news_05.tar

Possibly early n64 stuff. Indy was the name of the SGI workstations Nintendo used for 64 dev kits and based the n64 around.

oh for fucks sake. They're finding real niche stuff like that, yet somehow none of these idiots have tripped over the Panzer Dragoon Saga source code.

All that early N64 shit was also presumed destroyed.

 

[tehpope]

oh for fucks sake. They're finding real niche stuff like that, yet somehow none of these idiots have tripped over the Panzer Dragoon Saga source code.

1) PDS is sega 2) that shit is gone forever. The devs have admitted that they threw that shit out in the trash.

Then again, it might be buried in an archive somewhere that Sega/Sammy never found.

 

[Marissa Moira]

1) PDS is sega 2) that shit is gone forever. The devs have admitted that they threw that shit out in the trash.

I know for a fact that things being thrown out in the trash have wound up in other places after.

You're talking mid 90's and fans would still steal shit from dumpsters just like they did in the 80's.

Hell a ton of early Disney World stuff was preserved this way after Disney threw them out.