Nintendo Switch 2 - For the Soytendo consoomers to speculate about the successor to the Switch, recently announced for 2025.

[Hermiöne Granger]

More relevant than ever…

 

[Fag Alert Major Fag Alert]

This video is such horseshit

 

[Action Orange]

The N64 was an absolute powerhouse of multiplayer titles. There's a reason that it's remembered more fondly than the ps1 in the states (euro faggots will still bemoan why eurojank shovelware like croc isn't as much of a household name as mario), because no one wanted to have a party at the kid's house who had a ps1 and watch them play final fantasy, they went to the n64 kid's house to play goldeneye, smash, mario kart, pokemon stadium, etc. Despite ps1 outselling n64 almost 2:1 in the states (3:1 worldwide) I bet more people PLAYED an n64 as a kid because a single n64 would probably be used by every kid in the neighborhood.

Your take on the 64 is so spot on bro. Hell, I'd go so far to say that, in my neck of the woods, the n64 was a staple of sleepovers well into the ps2 era. Atleast until around 2003 or so me and the boys would throw down on smash, 007, mariokart, conker, mario tennis and whatever else anyone brought over. And if a neighborhood kid dropped by on Saturday morning? You'd better believe he'd say "I'll be right back," before rushing home to grab his controller.

The 64 was definitely a flawed machine, but for any kid with a friend group in the late 90s to early 00s it was most definitely "the fun mutiplayer machine", and no amount of revisionist history from youtuber dorks will ever change that.

 

[Mister Fister]

I enjoy Seppos/Amerimutts paying more for global trade. If you think buying American made products will save you, I'd piss on American made before using anything your retarded workforce could produce, you can keep your High Fructose Corn Syrup slop for yourselves

Enjoy not being able to call your "leader" a faggot.

 

[starborn427614]

Your take on the 64 is so spot on bro. Hell, I'd go so far to say that, in my neck of the woods, the n64 was a staple of sleepovers well into the ps2 era. Atleast until around 2003 or so me and the boys would throw down on smash, 007, mariokart, conker, mario tennis and whatever else anyone brought over. And if a neighborhood kid dropped by on Saturday morning? You'd better believe he'd say "I'll be right back," before rushing home to grab his controller.

The 64 was definitely a flawed machine, but for any kid with a friend group in the late 90s to early 00s it was most definitely "the fun mutiplayer machine", and no amount of revisionist history from youtuber dorks will ever change that.

Seconding this, the N64 was always the go-to console for me when friends were around.

EDIT:
Pre-order invites for the UK Nintendo store are going live on Tuesday. It's one of these silly lottery things.

 

[Hermiöne Granger]

 

[Markorian]

PS1 lifetime sales globally: 102 million units
N64 lifetime sales globally: 32 million units

PS2 lifetime sales globally: 160 million units
Xbox lifetime sales globally: 24 million units
Gamecube lifetime sales globally: 22 million units

Just show these numbers to a developmentally stunted Nintendo cultist the next time it soys out about how great these consoles did, how they were in a "close second place" to the competition, and how they totally didn't put Nintendo in a financially precarious position for almost a decade. No, your anecdotal evidence about you and your friends playing Goldeneye or Melee while hopped up on Capri Sun and stuffing Cheetos in your face doesn't invalidate Nintendo getting fucked by Sony and to a lesser extent Microsoft. And saying the N64 sold 3:1 to PS1 is just the fanboy equivalent of saying that the system sold one third of their competition. Not half, not even close, a third. A distant second place.

When they aren't defending price hikes, Nintendo cultists enjoy rewriting history in a such way they must twist it to look like Nintendo can do wrong, or that they can't make mistakes.

M8, I was just pointing out why there was such a vast gulf between the n64 and gamecube's cultural impact and their actual success, and why the wiiu, despite being closer in sales to the gamecube than the gamecube is to the n64, doesn't benefit from that effect. Also
>Using sony's THRICE "revised" ps2 number

 

[Maxwell Carter]

Can't wait for the next console after the Switch 2 when Soytendo fans excuse games being over 100 dollars.

 

[NickDigger]

M8, I was just pointing out why there was such a vast gulf between the n64 and gamecube's cultural impact and their actual success, and why the wiiu, despite being closer in sales to the gamecube than the gamecube is to the n64, doesn't benefit from that effect. Also
>Using sony's THRICE "revised" ps2 number

You're American aren't you? Guess where the majority of consoles of N64 sales were.

 

[Tanner Glass]

I guess it's "derivative" but how is it not going to be derivative? How is a follow up to Mario 64 supposed to change the game beyond what Sunshine already changed? If they did try to recreate the wheel with a new Mario game people probably would have hated it and wished it was more like Mario 64, which is how most people felt about the US version of SMB2. I agree that Sunshine isn't as charming or revolutionary as Mario 64, but it doesn't need to be revolutionary it just needs to be fun, it has fun game design similar to Mario 64, way better controls, and better graphics so I think it's good enough. No one complained about Super Mario World being too similar to SMB3 when it came out.

Gamecube had better games than N64 in a lot series or at least titles that are just as good. F-Zero GX, Smash Bros Melee, Mario Kart Double Dash, Zelda Wind Waker are all either just as good as their N64 counterparts or are just better all around. N64 didn't even have a Metroid game at all but Gamecube had 2 of them and one of them was amazing and the other wasn't bad either. The only series I think Nintendo really dropped the ball on for Gamecube was Starfox.

Well the jump from Super Mario World to Mario 64 was massive, Smash came out of nowhere, and Zelda OoT and Majora's were insanely good. The 64 had the major benefit of being Nintendo's first foray into 3D.

By comparison - the GameCube games all felt smaller just from that alone, coupled with Double Dash being a bit gimmicky, Wind Waker's art style and traversal system, Twilight Princess co-launching with the Wii, etc.

Another point is that the N64 got to compete against the PS1, which wasn't bad per se in terms of games available - but the Gamecube had to compete with the PS2 coming out of the gate with GTA3, FFX, MGS2, GTAVC, Devil May Cry, Silent Hill 2 and Kingdom Hearts basically all inside of a year. PS at that point had a really healthy stable of third party developers and the PS2 had a fantastic game library, possibly one of the best to ever exist - compared to Gamecube's first party titles and had full backwards compatibility with PS1 discs.

Gamecube using the mini discs meant it became a real hassle for developers to port over games (as they had like 1/4th the capacity of a PS2 disc) so they largely just didn't bother - on top of it.

 

[Markorian]

You're American aren't you? Guess where the majority of consoles of N64 sales were.

Damn, we've got a regular detective here.

There's a reason that it's remembered more fondly than the ps1 in the states

Despite ps1 outselling n64 almost 2:1 in the states (3:1 worldwide)

 

[Picnic_Boy]

Nintendo adults are a lost cause.

 

[LifeAlert]

is anyone really talking about what happens when Nintendo eventually shuts off the Switch 2 servers

How many times do niggertendo simps need to learn this lesson? They bitch and moan about what happened to the Wii Shop Channel and 3DS eShop but then turn right around and simp for the literal "OWN NOTHING" console after years of smug "huehuehueh we have ridiculously overpriced FISIKUL copies on our shitty tablet :3". Even the PS5 and XSeries have discs with game data on them.

But whatever tendies. Go ahead and drain the equivalent of 15 mortgages on data that you are renting for shitty downgraded versions of last generation's slop that you will lose the instant the servers shut off, bonus points if there's no offline storage so there's no possibility of rigging it to play offline. Tendies really are the most retarded of the 3 console cults

 

[Dysnomia]

How many times do niggertendo simps need to learn this lesson? They bitch and moan about what happened to the Wii Shop Channel and 3DS eShop but then turn right around and simp for the literal "OWN NOTHING" console after years of smug "huehuehueh we have ridiculously overpriced FISIKUL copies on our shitty tablet :3". Even the PS5 and XSeries have discs with game data on them.

But whatever tendies. Go ahead and drain the equivalent of 15 mortgages on data that you are renting for shitty downgraded versions of last generation's slop that you will lose the instant the servers shut off, bonus points if there's no offline storage so there's no possibility of rigging it to play offline. Tendies really are the most retarded of the 3 console cults

They'll defend this so hard. Right up until the moment the servers go down and their game dongles become useless dominos with pretty pictures on them.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I don't see anything on the launch titles that is exclusive and worth playing. Heck I haven't touched my Switch for like 2 years because besides Xenoblade it's shit to play on and everything costs several times than Steam. Nintendo doesn't make new games, just rereleases same shit, and the only new innovation of theirs is Zelda BotW which uses its budget to mistake you to think is a well made game.

They'll defend this so hard. Right up until the moment the servers go down and their game dongles become useless dominos with pretty pictures on them.

And then a year later they'll buy those games again for two times the original price. Assuming they are ever released again ans Nintendo doesn't sue anyone making a playable version.

 

[LightDragonman1]

BOTW isn’t well made, and every new game in their established franchise is just a repeat? Well, to each their own (I agree that some of their series could use a shake up though).

I’m still going to hold off on getting a Switch 2 until all the launch shenanigans calm down.

 

[Brap God]

This video is such horseshit

I love how he spins this cutesy narrative about Nintendo treating their Japanese customers like kangz when in reality they're probably desperate to keep their domestic consumer base alive. No, Mr. Miyamoto, the cheaper console price isn't Nintendo giving back to the "community", it's a result of your country's economy looking like a ski slope for the past 5 years.

Same goes for scalping, the buying power of the average Japanese salaryman drone is pretty low so Nintendo can't afford scalpers tying the noose tighter around their consoomer's necks. Americans, meanwhile, have far more purchasing power and are able to afford tanking the gaijin tax while still having more money in the bank than their Jap counterparts. But I guess it's more reassuring to cope about how some corporation is looking out for your interests instead of facing the less pleasant truth.

 

[wholetthegodsout]

Just buy a switch 2. Dont ask questions. You guys all have credit cards right?

 

[Angelic 2 the Core]

The dipshits who say that game prices were higher in the 90's fail to mention that games also dropped in price quickly, too. The best sellers were released on budget lines (Greatest Hits/Player's Choice) as soon as nine months after a game released for less than half-price during the PS2 era and for a year before that during the PS1/N64 generation. We also had plenty of other options to get games cheaply (used game stores that took trade-ins and rental stores were everywhere, plus you could trade physical copies with friends or people online or even borrow games for free from your friends). Now you have launch Switch games like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe that are nearly a decade old (even older if you consider the fact that it was already an upgraded re-release of an old Wii U game) that never dropped their original full MSRP prices.

 

[Buck Broken Chimp]

So here is my thoughts on the Switch 2 backlash. I agree with most if not all of the complaints but I don't get why console gamers are just now taking issue with this.

So, people say the Switch 2 is too expensive and yeah, it kind of is. But at the same time, I don’t see how it’s any more overpriced than the PS5 Pro. I see people calling it underpowered, but remember: it’s a handheld. You might not use that feature, but most Switch owners play almost exclusively in handheld mode.


As a PC gamer, I did always not necessarily like or respect Nintendo but I understood Nintendo's appeal more. Xbox and PlayStation have always just felt like worse PCs to me like, why does this need to be on its own hardware? But Nintendo tries to leverage the benefits of a closed ecosystem with unorthodox, proprietary hardware. I’ll admit most of the time it's retard shit but sometimes it's kind of snazzy.



People were mad that the webcam was bad and yeah, you can get better ones for cheaper on PC. But like… that’s true of literally any first-party hardware. The PlayStation 5 disc reader costs way more than a PC Blu-ray drive (both internal and external), and those can read, write, and even handle formats like M-DISC. Why is this just now a problem?


Then people are mad about game upgrades costing money. Sony did it first and no one fucking cared. The PS5 is the best selling console of this gen so people bought it no one cared.


Related to that is the limited backwards compatibility, especially with GameCube, and the idea that Nintendo is restricting it to resell old games. Again, that’s valid, but why is this just now an issue? Nintendo has always done this. Sony and Microsoft have improved, but even they still restrict backwards compatibility far more than PC ever has.


Also, people are mad about the digital key cartridges. I don't get the point of these either but Nintendo and other consoles have sold “physical copies” that are just codes in a box for years. So why is this any different?


Lastly, there’s the game pricing. I actually agree with this one games are too expensive. But console games have always been more expensive. Sony and Microsoft raised prices without much pushback. GTA 6 is rumored to cost $100, and people just accepted it with “It’s Rockstar, their games are good, they can charge whatever.” Sony raised games to $70 and no one cares