Nintendo Switch 2 - For the Soytendo consoomers to speculate about the successor to the Switch, recently announced for 2025.

[Peguin Sandwich]

Not sure if this has been said already but, Nintendo see themselves as a high class club of sorts now only the privileged few can participate in.
"Its OUR stuff. You're paying for the privilege -- no -- the RIGHT to have PERMISSION to use it and a front row seat into our history and success and through your continued patronage over the years we've EARED it."
Also the funny thing to me about Amiibos being 30 to 50 fucking dollarydoos now is I bet the quality and sculpt won't improve one bit. One nice thing I'll say about the KARers ones is them being swapable is a cool. I always wanted something akin to that for the Smash Ult. Mii Amiibos with customizable heads, hair, and body color parts.

 

[Fcret]

in Japan even the PCE out sold it

Yep, it was actually massive success due to it coming out in 1987 and also getting a cheap-ish CD addon relatively quickly. TurboCD was basically the Saturn of its time with all the wacky cult-classic games that suddenly could be absolutely loaded down with CD quality music and tons of graphical data.

Also I know the Megadrive was technically more powerful but I always hate how unsaturated the games looked. PCE games just look better 40ish years on than most of the stuff that came out on the MD.

In Japan, the Super Famicom was the clear winner, but in Europe, it was the Genesis

Europe was a side market for consoles in that era. Despite being more populous than the US, the Megadrive in Europe sold less than half what it sold in the US (around 10 million compared to 22 million in the US). Hell, it sold around 4 million in Japan which means that, despite being a 'flop' in Japan, there were more MDs per capita there than in Europe.

I don't really get where this unwarranted self-importance about the European market comes from with retro youtubers.

 

[Enig]

I don't really get where this unwarranted self-importance about the European market comes from with retro youtubers.

It's moreso the br*ts drowning out all other talk of Europe in terms of video games, if they weren't yapping over everyone else so loud you'd hear more interesting stories like how scandinavia loved the NES or the hype and subsequent fumbled production numbers for the Jaguar on the mainland

 

[Jason_Cruiser]

Also I know the Megadrive was technically more powerful but I always hate how unsaturated the games looked. PCE games just look better 40ish years on than most of the stuff that came out on the MD.

I've tried MD homebrew a few times and fitting everything for the sprites in to two sets of 15 colors is a pain in the ass. Being limited to only 61 colors really set the system back, if it wasn't for that the MD would be my favorite 4th gen system. I never really minded the lack of parallax on the PCE. The system having 1 layer and PSG sound gives the system a enhanced nes look that I find charming. I just wish their were more good games on the system.

Europe was a side market for consoles in that era. Despite being more populous than the US, the Megadrive in Europe sold less than half what it sold in the US (around 10 million compared to 22 million in the US). Hell, it sold around 4 million in Japan which means that, despite being a 'flop' in Japan, there were more MDs per capita there than in Europe.

I don't really get where this unwarranted self-importance about the European market comes from with retro youtubers.

I don't think people realise that we were much poorer than Japan and Amerca back then. My older family members all had microcomputers in those days. Nintendo and sega games cost £50-£70. Floppies cost bascially nothing, you could get pirated games from the market or just get your friend to copy you a game for free.

 

[Fox Girl Enjoyer]

Europe was a side market for consoles in that era. Despite being more populous than the US, the Megadrive in Europe sold less than half what it sold in the US (around 10 million compared to 22 million in the US). Hell, it sold around 4 million in Japan which means that, despite being a 'flop' in Japan, there were more MDs per capita there than in Europe.

I don't really get where this unwarranted self-importance about the European market comes from with retro youtubers.

You have to understand your talking about a generation where both consoles together sold 90 million. The Playstation 1 outsold both of those consoles not a generation later. Europe was a small region, but it still represented about 10% of SNES sales and 20% of Genesis sales. This would still make it the smallest of the 3 markets but not completely irrelevant. For context, they both sold about 14 million in Western Europe from what I found but sold 20 million together in Japan. This is the kind of gaps we're talking about here.

 

[Hermiöne Granger]

I don't think people realise that we were much poorer than Japan and Amerca back then. My older family members all had microcomputers in those days. Nintendo and sega games cost £50-£70. Floppies cost bascially nothing, you could get pirated games from the market or just get your friend to copy you a game for free.

You walked into these shops that sold Nintendo and Sega games for £50-£70 and laughed all the way out, while you picket up a box of 10 disks for £15, and you knew you will get all the hit games of that year for free. ZX, C64 and the Amiga was what people played on back then. There was no video game crash in Europe for Nintendo to save like in USA. Even with all this piracy going on the video game market was thriving in Europe. No one did know who the fuck Mario was before the 90s, thats how much fuck was given for Nintendo. All this Nintendo dick sucking was in the USA.

 

[IrishGuy088]

So Nintendo is going to survive off of Disney Adults who will pay $400 to eat a hot dog if it is on a pikachu plate.

Isn't that sort of the goal? Nintendo played their cards right. It's cringe for the pathetic adults that buy Pikadogs, but if I had a company I'd kill for that sort of brand loyalty.

As for Miyamoto, he is definitely in his final stage of his career. But they began moving Yoshiaki Koizumi into position as the company elder almost a decade ago. Granted, he's only ten years younger than Miyamoto but it's still a worthy line of succession. Koizumi is much more personable than Miyamoto and an excellent game designer.

How about that Nintendo Direct? I finally caught up on it. That was a great show. Dragon Quest was a huge surprise and Metroid looks awesome.

 

[Fox Girl Enjoyer]

So Nintendo is going to survive off of Disney Adults who will pay $400 to eat a hot dog if it is on a pikachu plate. Miyamoto also seems to be in his late stage Walt Disney phase (focusing on amusement parks and the Brand instead of the core product)

Yes and no? Nintendo as a company absolutely relies on nostalgia. As @Hermiöne Granger said, no one cared about Mario in Europe so Nintendo struggled there until the DS. The same was true in China. Nintendo basically flopped there because, despite them playing a lot of games, they never grew up with Mario.

What Nintendo is doing is trying to morph and mold its existing IPs to appeal to Gen Z and Alpha. This is why every game has some element like Minecraft or Roblox. Its building vehicles in ToTK or destroying environments in DK Bananza (DK is actually mining lol). The new Ditto game looks like its straight out of Minecraft. Nintendo is desperate to get this audience but they absolutely can't. They get the Nintendo Adults because thats really the only group who will put up with this slop they are churning.

Nintendo can't command an audience like Disney Adults because Disney Adults are mostly women. Women are the greatest consumer. Guys are a lot harder.

 

[Fcret]

How about that Nintendo Direct? I finally caught up on it. That was a great show. Dragon Quest was a huge surprise and Metroid looks awesome.

There were some good things shown, but the stuff I'm most excited about is multiplat and I'll probably end up grabbing on PC anyway.

 

[Jarch6]

Nintendo can't command an audience like Disney Adults because Disney Adults are mostly women. Women are the greatest consumer. Guys are a lot harder.

While millennial man-children aren’t as reliably sycophantic as their counterpart Disney foid-soldiers, they still have enough expendable money to satiate Nintendo. The concern is if they will be able to curry favor with the next generation (and if the future generations will even be able to afford to pay for such frivolities). With that said, it’s quite a long term problem, and one that pales in comparison to the looming chaos that will be wrought upon society by the death throes of the baby boomer generation.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I remembered what the Virtual Boy reminded me of:

Granted that stand price us still fucking insane and probably done because corporations will pay for it rather than individuals.

 

[Computer Guardian]

Want to hear something a little depressing?, According to VGChartz, estimated Switch 2 sales might be just over 7 million since July (Archive, though they just posted the article a week ago.), Which if true really shows how much the consoomer mindset and the fanboys can push this thing in terms of sales, I wouldn't be supprised if it'd be any higher with the direct giving the consoomer even more things to burn money on because you know the $40 Wii ports or the upcomming $100 pokemon game will make someone out there briefly lose the ability to have good financial decisions.

 

[IrishGuy088]

Want to hear something a little depressing?, According to VGChartz, estimated Switch 2 sales might be just over 7 million since July (Archive, though they just posted the article a week ago.), Which if true really shows how much the consoomer mindset and the fanboys can push this thing in terms of sales

You people are weird.

We live in a economy.

 

[Fox Girl Enjoyer]

I doubt it has sold 7 million. From the Circana data, we know it sold about 400K in July and it sold about 500K from the first weekend to the end of June (1.6 for June minus the 1.1 for the first few days). So we see sales declining in July vs June (even excluding the first weekend). Nintendo announced they had sold 6 million by the 25th of July (right around when Bananza came out). Unless most of the sales for July were almost all at the end of the month, then there is a good chance they are over tracking. VGChartz has a habit of doing that.

 

[Jason_Cruiser]

Want to hear something a little depressing?, According to VGChartz, estimated Switch 2 sales might be just over 7 million since July (Archive, though they just posted the article a week ago.), Which if true really shows how much the consoomer mindset and the fanboys can push this thing in terms of sales, I wouldn't be supprised if it'd be any higher with the direct giving the consoomer even more things to burn money on because you know the $40 Wii ports or the upcomming $100 pokemon game will make someone out there briefly lose the ability to have good financial decisions.

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I'm not that well-read on it, but supposedly in economics there is a phenomenon where when people become poorer, they actually gain more spending money for purchases like this, due to them cancelling more expensive things like a vacation. So instead of splurging a few thousand on going to Madrid for the summer, they might buy themselves an expensive new gaming system or a big lego set for half-a-grand instead. I don't have a source, so I could be talking out my ass, but it would make sense to why Nintendo and NVIDIA have gotten away with gouging their prices way above inflation. And why so many people just accept these prices under the cope of "I should treat myself, it's still cheaper than x system from the 90s with inflation or a weekend in Paris".

 

[broners]

VGChartz has been wildly inaccurate for its entire existence. Nothing they say matters unless a real source independently confirms it.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

The U.S. Government itself constantly lies about job/CPI numbers, so I have no reason to believe the numbers of "sales" about or from a Kosherized multi-national corporation. I know one thing - there's no way in hell Switch 2 comes close to Switch 1 sales.

 

[LightDragonman1]

Welp, despite all the rightful complaints about Nintendo's price gouging antics, guess what is the best selling video game on Amazon?

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[Rome's rightful successor]

Want to hear something a little depressing?, According to VGChartz, estimated Switch 2 sales might be just over 7 million since July (Archive, though they just posted the article a week ago.), Which if true really shows how much the consoomer mindset and the fanboys can push this thing in terms of sales, I wouldn't be supprised if it'd be any higher with the direct giving the consoomer even more things to burn money on because you know the $40 Wii ports or the upcomming $100 pokemon game will make someone out there briefly lose the ability to have good financial decisions.

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Nintendo fanboys are just like the Sony fanboys that bought up the PS5 despite not having any games.

 

[moocow]

Also the funny thing to me about Amiibos being 30 to 50 fucking dollarydoos now is I bet the quality and sculpt won't improve one bit.

Amiibos are literally shitty molded plastic with an NFC chip worth $0.25 embedded in the base. They're Funko Pops with corporate branding and an RF tag. Buying them is peak consoomer.