Nintendo Switch 2 - For the Soytendo consoomers to speculate about the successor to the Switch, recently announced for 2025.

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Harambe said:
I'm curious what would make it a must-buy console for people, since it was a day 1 for me
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Games that aren't $80+, free upgrades for every game to use the new hardware, not paid shit, and a screen that isn't hot garbage and I probably would have gotten one. Smaller things would be, magnetic sticks, normal sd card storage, actual physical releases, hdmi 2.1, dolby atmos support, not being so expensive. Basically for me its the fact its so expensive and yet they cheaped out and price gouge you on everything they can. I had some money put aside for one back at the start of the year but I didn't expect Nintendo to become so jewish with the fake carts and the sd express and the paid game updates, you are ending up paying the whole price of the console again as you use it.

If I bought one now I would have zero use for it since I own a modded Switch already and the only two actual games on it are Donkey Kong and Mario Kart, neither of which interest me, and none of my Switch 1 games have updates to use the hardware, so they would still be 720p 30fps
 
It's a Christmas Miracle.

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Computer Guardian said:
Yes genius, that's what I said. the PS5 sales is 40% down from the PS5 sales last year. 40 is a bigger number than 10. Switch 1 + 2 total november 2025 sales being 10% down compared to Switch 1 sales in November 2024 is still better than PS5 total November 2025 Sales being 40% down from PS5 sales from November 2024 because almost half of your total sales vanishing year over year is way worse than a tenth of it vanishing Year over Year. and that's not bringing up Xbox going down 70% (almost double the PS5 loss vs last year) compared to how well it sold the year before, which is a far bigger "It's over" moment than the Switch 1 + 2 losing 10% compared to how well just the Switch 1 sold the year before.
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Holy shit you are the biggest dent imaginable.
Those number are percentages. If I have Item A that sold 100,000 last year and Item B only sold 1,000, but A is down 40% and B is down 10%, you aren't going to go around claiming B did better unless you are a complete fucking retard. The PS5 being down a higher percentage doesn't matter when PS5 still sold better than Switch 2. You're also talking about a machine that is on its 6th Christmas so, yeah, no shit it declined. Obviously, Switch being down despite including a brand new system in this year's number is really bad.
Incecticyder said:
Again, the sales were still good for the consoles. Not to mention the S2 has yet to have its killer app.
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You mean the launch? Because that's all you can really point to saying the Switch 2 is doing well. The console being down compared to the S1 in its first holiday and down year-over-year despite launching a new product isn't good. It means that the early launch numbers were just diehard Tendies and this console has no appeal outside of that.
 
Incecticyder said:
Look, MS and Sony shat the bed this generation. Valve is Nintendo's only real competition. They will do well even with the S2.
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Agree, the “Nintendo is actually struggling rlly hard guyz” is grade-A copium. Reminiscent of the numberfags you often see in steam-charts and vtuber threads, when you have to dig into minutia to try and make a point it’s a waste of time. If Nintendo (or Sony for that matter) were in truly dire straights it would be obvious (as it is with the festering corpse of Xbox). I suppose people cling to these market evaluations because they feel more “objective”, but at the end of the day who cares how well the company is doing, we should be discussing whether the game/console are good/bad.
 
Fox Girl Enjoyer said:
Holy shit you are the biggest dent imaginable.
Those number are percentages. If I have Item A that sold 100,000 last year and Item B only sold 1,000, but A is down 40% and B is down 10%, you aren't going to go around claiming B did better unless you are a complete fucking retard. The PS5 being down a higher percentage doesn't matter when PS5 still sold better than Switch 2. You're also talking about a machine that is on its 6th Christmas so, yeah, no shit it declined. Obviously, Switch being down despite including a brand new system in this year's number is really bad.

You mean the launch? Because that's all you can really point to saying the Switch 2 is doing well. The console being down compared to the S1 in its first holiday and down year-over-year despite launching a new product isn't good. It means that the early launch numbers were just diehard Tendies and this console has no appeal outside of that.
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The S1 is still getting support. We are at the beginning of the S2. A bad beginning does not mean bad lifetime sales. Consoles with good first years have failed.
 
Harambe said:
I'm curious what would make it a must-buy console for people, since it was a day 1 for me. An actually upgraded Switch that can hit 4k was an automatic must-buy for me, a Switch that could get more current gen ports was also a must-buy, and a Switch with better social features was also a must-buy, I play mostly on it since it makes the most sense for my life, it's the only machine I have that my wife would touch, and as far as gaming goes it gets me the most bang for my buck and feels like the device of maximum sanity compared to my gaming PC. But people seem inclined to shit on it, like they're hearing about how digital games work for the first time, or just now hearing about tariffs, inflation, and the current tech cycle driving demand for hardware way past what supply is capable of providing. As far as the lineup goes, I really enjoy Mario Kart World, I thought Bananza was great, and the switch 2 edition of TOTK felt genuinely transformative and got me interested in the game enough to beat it with a pretty high completion, and Kirby Air Riders is fun even if I'm still figuring it out. I'm kind of wondering what's missing for people. Sure they made another Zelda musou, but it seems like some people want that. And they failed to tard wrangle Retro, but it's not the end of the world.
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While “Must-buy” is, of course, highly subjective, Nintendo, to their credit, at least understands that having proper exclusives is a big part of fulfilling that (unlike Sony, and especially Microsoft, this generation). From my own perspective, they’ve fumbled a lot of the exclusives that would interest me (MK World has the stupid intermissions, MP4 was BOTW-ified alongside having a dogshit story with marvel writing, Bonanza seems fine, and Kirby Airride actually interests me (I loved the og)). Though, the biggest disincentive is the bad hardware (the bad lcd screen). From my vantage point, it makes much more sense to just wait for the inevitable OLED version (if I end up getting the S2, which is possible if more friends get one, MK8 alone was enough to sell me on the first switch when enough of them got it).
 
<3 norafawn said:
Have you guys seen the new Digital Foundry video on Switch 2's Skyrim port? Seems it can barely handle the game with major input latency and inconsistent frame rates
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Wouldn't say Howard is a beacon of talented game dev but holy shit, it's a fourteen year old game.
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They claimed it was really easy to port, but given the blatent input lag, it's easier to say that Todd and co. don't give a fuck because it's another port of Skyrim to make money off of. They supposedly needed the power of the Xbox Series consoles to make Starfield yet had the scope of Fallout 4 but most of the content is ProcGen'ed slop.
 
Or it could just be Indiasoft telling them to do a shitty job on purpose. Anything is possible in Current Year.
 
Computer Guardian said:
They claimed it was really easy to port, but given the blatent input lag, it's easier to say that Todd and co. don't give a fuck because it's another port of Skyrim to make money off of. They supposedly needed the power of the Xbox Series consoles to make Starfield yet had the scope of Fallout 4 but most of the content is ProcGen'ed slop.
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lol they probably just took the Switch 1 port, loaded it into the Switch 2 devkit, changed the build target from "1" to "2" and clicked [Build], Whatever little errors popped up got a hacked up fix and once it built without errors they called it good & shipped it. Nintendo probably tested it for "quality" for like 5 minutes -- it booted, got as far as the "you're finally awake" carriage scene without crashing, so they called it good and approved it. Like Bethesda, it's free money to Nintendo letting that garbage through.
 
In the wake of so many lazy and bad Switch 2 ports, I am continually baffled that Red Dead Redemption has an excellent Switch 2 port that leverages the hardware properly.
Very good first impression for Rockstar games on the console, which will surely not be lived up to at all.
 
Harambe said:
I'm curious what would make it a must-buy console for people, since it was a day 1 for me.
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Mario Kart probably would have been enough for me to buy one if it weren't so expensive and the 60fps upgrades were free. The Mario Kart combo and a couple game upgrades would be pushing $1,000 taxes in here in Canada. It's just not worth it. I'd rather spend that $1,000 on other things.
 
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Harambe said:
I'm curious what would make it a must-buy console for people, since it was a day 1 for me.
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I bought it day 1 as well but it was never a must buy and there was no system seller, It was a my switch 1 was broken and I had a backlog of games I never got to finish, so may as well upgrade, was only $100 more
 
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