Megathread Non-binary genders / Enbies - When Male and Female Aren't Special Enough

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

When you first watch her, you are most probably going to think this is a parody about trans/non-binary people. The obviously fake voice of a woman trying to sound like a man, the fake mustache and little beard. Talking about "gender euphoria". The name that sounds like a clever world play.

She was really pretty before all this nonsense. What a shame.

 

[TruffleSpark]

Sorry to return to this, but I'm still mad that I got banned from a group for accurately pointing out that "non-binary" is an incredibly recent thing. I know "gaslighting" is one of those overused internet words. But this feels like actual gaslighting, I remember 15 years ago, I remember this didn't exist back then. I know most of the people who jumped on me remember this as well. Who are they kidding with this whole "non-binary has always existed" nonsense? The level of wilful self delusion in these spaces is astounding.

 

[Higgs Bonbon]

Both the authors of Heartstopper and Red white and Royal blue are now apparently zero effort enbies. Changed absolutely nothing about their appearance/names, still present as dowdy women and are very obviously trying to dodge the "sad fujos writing unrealistic yaoi" accusations.

The Heartstopper chick is also supposedly asexual but writes exclusively about romance and it's the most basic "heteronormative" romance since Twilight. The "gay" couple is a boy who is "the boy" and he's like a 1950s fantasy of a perfect boyfriend and a boy who is "the girl" and an obvious self-insert.

At least the grift has made them bank, can't hate that hustle.

90% of this shit seems to stem from women being afraid of their own sexuality and thus expressing it through proxies like yaoi and genderspecial nonsense, anything except being an icky cis.

The worst part is there's heaps of evidence it stems from being molested. Which would be sad if they didn't decide to make it everyone else's problem too.

and like most of my posts I realize I'm stating something said 5 posts earlier with a fraction of the eloquence

 

[LimeRikki]

Sorry to return to this, but I'm still mad that I got banned from a group for accurately pointing out that "non-binary" is an incredibly recent thing. I know "gaslighting" is one of those overused internet words. But this feels like actual gaslighting, I remember 15 years ago, I remember this didn't exist back then. I know most of the people who jumped on me remember this as well. Who are they kidding with this whole "non-binary has always existed" nonsense? The level of wilful self delusion in these spaces is astounding.

And then they'll go talk about some shit like "two spirit", to claim that they "always" been around, which kind of makes me laugh.

These are the same people who whine about "colonizer behavior" but they'll take cultural labels they know nothing about and give them a new meaning to validate their identities.

Next time one of them brings up "two spirit" ask them what tribe it originates from and watch them sqirm.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

These are the same people who whine about "colonizer behavior" but they'll take cultural labels they know nothing about and give them a new meaning to validate their identities.

What I especially love about a lot of them is that when properly translated, what a lot of those terms actually mean is something like "bottom bitch boy."

Basically, a term used to mock males who fail at being men, so they tell them that they're good for nothing but to be bottom bitches who take it up the ass.

No one dehumanizes troons harder than they dehumanize themselves.

 

[TruffleSpark]

And then they'll go talk about some shit like "two spirit", to claim that they "always" been around, which kind of makes me laugh.

These are the same people who whine about "colonizer behavior" but they'll take cultural labels they know nothing about and give them a new meaning to validate their identities.

Next time one of them brings up "two spirit" ask them what tribe it originates from and watch them sqirm.

 

[Molesting the Decapitated]

I know "gaslighting" is one of those overused internet words. But this feels like actual gaslighting,

Same with "projecting" or "boundaries". Etc. easily offended emily twitter hoes love to get into their word arsenal and just throw any special terminology at you (on special occasions even making up a "-shaming" suffix on the spot) just to make you feel like a lesser during a disagreement with them. These people are retarded and lonely

90% of this shit seems to stem from women being afraid of their own sexuality and thus expressing it through proxies like yaoi and genderspecial nonsense, anything except being an icky cis.

Can't deny it's like that for women, for men it sometimes seems to be a very disturbing fetish thing. If you never checked out the Troonytoons twitter account you really should. I normally wouldn't ever recommend seeing someone's profile who self-identifies as a "radical feminist" (because fucking lol). But it's just too good. Theres countless potential lolcow material that don't shy away from "I transitioned cuz I'm a sexy slut whore" type of horror.

 

[Windows 10 Upgrade]

A friend's teen son really got into the whole gender thing a couple of years ago - said he was pansexual, parroted off all the gender cult talking points, etc etc. His poor mother is a complete normie and just went along with it.

So recently he was going out with a girl in his little trans-flag clique at high school (a they/them obviously) who while they were getting intimate allegedly "froze" in the midst of heterosexual behaviour and later... well you know the way it pans out for him. I find it hard to write, because there's legitimacy and then there's whatever that was.

Anyway I told my kid, do not interact with any they/them's, be polite but keep your distance.

Even at work "they" (99% she) are considered dangerous, forever lurking to report a slight or an offence.

The only places "they" thrive is in academia, where the normies have the language "kung fu" to deal with their gender bullshit and know the pitfalls that normies don't.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

I dated a they/them once because I didn't recognize their gender pronouns, absolutely a woman wanting to be edgy. I wanted to have sex with a heavily tattooed woman. She would always lump herself in with women, and occasionally would accidentally refer to herself as a women. These people are all BPD narcissists looking for attention.

 

[Jacques1194]

I still cant get over how TRAs moved the goal post in regards to trans brains because they realized the idea of male and female brains would refute the concept of non binary.(They cant claim male and female brains exist, but also say some people's brains dont have a sex.)This is why they now say "trans people's brains are "wired" similarly to the gender they identify with."Basically I herd their argument is that a non binary person's brain isn't wired similarly to either sex, and hence why they identify as that.Its still bullshit though because nobody explains what any of it means.I know TRAs will insist that it means you dont have a gender identity in that case, but they never explain the characteristics.Is your brain not prone to act out the stereotypes of either sex, or what?Their whole argument is about identity but never explaining what said identity is like or why a person sees themselves as it.

 

[Fapcop]

She was really pretty before all this nonsense. What a shame.

LMAO, this broad looks and sounds like a chick playing a guy in a 90ies Saturday Night Live sketch.

She’s frankly probably even more of a loon than the straight up FTM pooners.

 

[and I must scream]

So recently he was going out with a girl in his little trans-flag clique at high school (a they/them obviously) who while they were getting intimate allegedly "froze" in the midst of heterosexual behaviour and later... well you know the way it pans out for him. I find it hard to write, because there's legitimacy and then there's whatever that was.

Can you spell it out for me? You or someone else. I genuinely don't know what you mean here.

 

[Honeybadger v2]

Can you spell it out for me? You or someone else. I genuinely don't know what you mean here.

I assume she accused him of rape after a consensual sex, as it happens with attention whores.

 

[Windows 10 Upgrade]

I assume she accused him of rape after a consensual sex, as it happens with attention whores.

Sadly yes. She said she did the manly thing of "freezing" and could not tell him "no" or communicate in any way.

Then afterwards told everyone at school that this kid was a rapist, as you do, when it's the "real" thing and not something done for misery points.

 

[Honeybadger v2]

Fuck. Hope kid's family can sue her family for defamation. That's what you get when you nationwide approve this kind of behavior.

Never fuck a crazy person, yeah

 

[TruffleSpark]

Didn't really think this was worth an A & H thread, so I figured I'd just post it here.

https://www.abc.net.au/everyday/what-its-like-to-be-non-binary-and-have-a-feminine-body/103416006

What it's like to be non-binary and have a feminine body​

ABC Everyday
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By Silvi Vann-Wall



"Excuse me, miss?" "How can I help you, ma'am?" "And what would the lady like?"
I hear phrases like these every day, and as someone who is not a miss, ma'am, or a lady, they make my intestines curl.
I'm non-binary. I came to terms with this recently, after living socially as a woman for many years — but I think I knew from a very young age. I just didn't have the right words for it.

I didn't have a problem with being either​

When I was smaller, and flat-chested, I remember being cast in the school play as an ambiguously-gendered character called Snooze, a food-loving hippie who had no discernible physical features.
When in character, the male lead of our play consistently gendered me as a 'he', and while initially I would correct him to say 'she', after a while I came to realise I didn't have a problem with being either.
Then puberty hit and assigned me with the very special task of looking after two giant sacks of flesh, fat and membrane.
"Um, excuse me? I think you've made some kind of mistake!" is what I would have said to Puberty HQ's assignment manager, if they existed.
In every play I performed in after that point, I was only ever cast as matronly old women or busty temptresses. It sucked.

My pronouns don't match people's expectations​

Nowadays, I use they/them pronouns, and I try to let people know that upfront — but a funny thing tends to happen when people look at me.
You see, their eyes always trend downwards, scoping out what you might call the 'traditionally feminine' body I live in.
You might also call it my 'massive boobs'.
When this elevator-eye assessment is complete, I like to think that a little switch flips over in the cis person's brain to a 'SHE/HER' setting.
When this switch is flipped, it takes a gargantuan effort to reset it to neutral.
I am misgendered constantly, and it's all thanks to a part of my body I can't control.

My gender and pronouns matter​

Being misgendered is incredibly uncomfortable, and can make me sad and anxious for many hours afterward.
What's worse is the amount of people who come up to me, unsolicited, and offer praise about my chest. "You're so lucky," some say, "people usually pay a lot of money to go that big!"
"If I had a lot of money, I'd have them reduced to B-cups!" I often retort.
Apart from the constant discomfort of being misgendered, it really isn't easy living with what I was once told are the "equivalent of two grey squirrels" (Australian translation: two common brushtail possums) on my torso, both doing their darndest to pull my neck and shoulders into a permanent Mr Burns slouch, while simultaneously turning any low-cut top I wear into a workplace violation.
It hurts, and it has caused a multitude of back problems for me since the age of nine.

I don't owe anyone androgyny​

As for potential solutions, a lot of AFAB (assigned female at birth) non-binary people will bind their chest, to give it a smaller, flatter appearance.
But at my cup size it's simply not possible — not without doing serious damage to breast tissue and potentially rib bones.
I can usually settle for a sports bra, but it provides only a miniscule change to my appearance.
Breast reduction is available, but for a high price or a long, long public waitlist.
It's not always an issue I want to 'solve', either.
I believe gender expression is fluid and complex, and I would also argue that non-binary people don't owe anyone androgyny.
What I mean by that is we often think of a certain, 'not quite male, not quite female' look when we think of non-binary people.
Most non-binary people I've met don't meet that very shallow criteria.

Sometimes I really like dressing up in a feminine way.
"We're all born naked and the rest is drag," as RuPaul said, and we all have the right to self-expression in any way we choose.
Still, even if I am out in a low-cut dress and heels, I expect a baseline level of respect when it comes to using my preferred pronouns.
If you're not sure how to refer to me, you can always ask! An awkward conversation is definitely preferred over prolonged chest-staring.
Silvi Vann-Wall is a gender-diverse podcaster, journalist, award winning-writer and filmmaker from Naarm/Melbourne.

How is this a real problem?
The fact that we've accepted "non binary" as being an actual thing is peak clownworld.

 

[deermeat]

Anyone else heard of the enby who was murdered recently, Nex Benedict? Of course the troons are blaiming this on "trans panic" even though it makes no logical sense. This is most likely related to the fact they were gay.

The "trans panic" is centered around grown ass men wanting to rape people by lying about being trans, grown adults wanting to groom kids, etc. Yaknow, actual things that the movement promotes. Wanting women to compete against biological men, wanting kids to take puberty blockers, saying kids as young as 1yrs old are truly trans, saying it's okay to lie about being trans when getting with someone.

The most controversy I've ever seen in regards to enbies being involved was with adults raising their kids be gender neutral. Otherwise, it's mostly other troons hating on enbies. Most people don't take them seriously enough to care.

 

[Coo Coo Bird]

Of course the troons are blaiming this on "trans panic" even though it makes no logical sense. This is most likely related to the fact they were gay.

"Nex" and one interesting fact about the school:

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I'm not seeing it. She looks like an average nerdy girl who probably would've been emo or something 15 years ago.

A family member shared screenshots of text messages sent by "Nex" about the fight, in which she says she started the fight by dumping water on some girls:

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Source: https://www.fox23.com/news/family-m...cle_a08a9600-d069-11ee-a555-a721a9701cad.html

Also it seems like the bullying was going on for a while, she tried to get back at them by dumping water on them in the bathroom, and that turned into a brawl where she suffered head trauma that killed her hours later.

 

[Spangled Drongo]

I find it hard to believe that in current year a kid would be bullied for being a they/them - if not from a school that has been captured by gender ideology, the younger generations are picking it up from social media, pop culture and each other, and I'd imagine the bullying had been going on before the girl decided to go non binary. In fact I could see her turning to online communities for friendship and a sense of belonging and coming to the conclusion that because she's not into typical girly hobbies/interests and the popular girls pick on her, that she must somehow be something other than female.

I could of course be totally wrong but it's way too common at this point - quirky nerdy kids falling in with the gender crowd because it provides an explanation for why they're different, and with the ideology being pushed so hard, they think changing genders will make the bullies leave them alone since "transphobia" is punished much harder than simply belittling someone for not fitting in with the popular crowd.

 

[Dromedary]

Anyone else heard of the enby who was murdered recently, Nex Benedict? Of course the troons are blaiming this on "trans panic" even though it makes no logical sense. This is most likely related to the fact they were gay.

The "trans panic" is centered around grown ass men wanting to rape people by lying about being trans, grown adults wanting to groom kids, etc. Yaknow, actual things that the movement promotes. Wanting women to compete against biological men, wanting kids to take puberty blockers, saying kids as young as 1yrs old are truly trans, saying it's okay to lie about being trans when getting with someone.

The most controversy I've ever seen in regards to enbies being involved was with adults raising their kids be gender neutral. Otherwise, it's mostly other troons hating on enbies. Most people don't take them seriously enough to care.

Is this girl a victim of the nonbinary fad? I don't know. What I do perceive is that when I read it was 3 on 1, the three girls who beat her so brutally were probably black. I don't think they read Libs of Tiktok on TwitterX, which so many shitlibs are blaming for this death, But we will never, ever know, will we?