Megathread Non-binary genders / Enbies - When Male and Female Aren't Special Enough

But they never get any help for their mental illnesses since questioning troon identities is transphobic murder. Not even therapists can help because everything that's not identity affirmation is "conversion therapy" thanks to Obama.

Dysphoria/troonism is seen as the root of mental health problems and not as a symptom and thus people descent into madness further and further.

There is a reason why the mortality rate increases AFTER transitioning. Changing the body - cutting of parts and hrt don't cure ill brains. It can make people feel better temporarily but the euphoria fades eventually and reality rears its ugly head again.

Severe mentally ill people and children shouldn't transition.
 
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hey btw i'm not cis im actually really complex ask me about it, i also dont want to commit 100% if i wanna go back when it's not cool to be a girl with a fucked up chest.
I'm not dead against nonbinary people but if someone who looks very female or very male tells me their gender is complicated i will laugh in their face.
 
I'm not dead against nonbinary people but if someone who looks very female or very male tells me their gender is complicated i will laugh in their face.

I have always said that if someone's bio reads like a bad Sonic OC do not steal character, then they are clearly just making shit up for attention.
 
I literally lost a friend because I couldn't bring myself to call her "they/them," especially when she admitted herself it was based around her self-hatred over her looks and hormone imbalances. I still kind of alternate between being angry at her stupidity and kind of feeling like a bigot, not like she'd forgive me anyway
 
I literally lost a friend because I couldn't bring myself to call her "they/them," especially when she admitted herself it was based around her self-hatred over her looks and hormone imbalances. I still kind of alternate between being angry at her stupidity and kind of feeling like a bigot, not like she'd forgive me anyway
that happened wtih my ex girlfriend. she tried to force me to call her a "they/them" when I tried to rekindle a friendship with her after a particularly bad separation, only to come back and find that she'd become """"nonbinary""", and I couldn't do it. At the time I was slowly starting to transition out of my sjw phase, but it was extremely jarring to me that she did such a thing unnoticed, and because I knew her as a woman, I wasn't going to call her anything but. She was, and always would be, a girl to me.

She changed her gender because of pressure and the toxicity of the tumblrina community as well as her own confusion over her sexual orientation (to this day, I don't know entirely whether she's bi or lesbian... but definitely one of the two, and she seemed to struggle with accepting it.), but again, it's not an actual "gender dysphoria" problem, it's her other mental illnesses that she admitted to having, and it's her own inferiority.

People need to stop conflating basic or complex insecurities that've nothing to do with gender dysphoria as meaning that "one is trans". 99% of the time it's just a hormonal, mentally miffed female who doesn't like female things. i'm sick of it. These are all different goddamn thing. If you think you have a genuine mental illness, go to a doctor, don't self diagnose as transgender for snowflake points. It invalidates actual trans people to continually use transgender as a label for your fake lil third gender.

There seriously needs to be a reformation with the whole fake LGBTQWERTY long as a shopping list acronym, let alone the fact that virtually none of these "new" orientations are valid, and many of them, in terms of shit like "demisexual", are preferences, not sexualities themselves. This clinging to labels seriously needs to fuckin' stop. Real lgbt people who don't passively sit back and accept this madness should come forward to tell off the tumblr jargon for what it is..... trashy bullshit. Your gender and sexuality ain't a choice, kiddos.

This is probably the most irksome aspect of SJWs to me, their usage of the LGBT identity and mental illnesses as accessories and trinkets, who undermine the struggles and the past progression that original activists put forth years ago, in order to give us better, more equalized lives.... do they want to revert to the days where there was insistence that lgbt identity or mental illness were choices.... where we'd be shoved in insane asylums? It seems as such, that's what they want in the name of their precious tokenism.

With no common center and no compromise from either side, be it social justice warrior or alt rightist, the embodiment of insanity consumes the world, and if you try and take a centrist or fair position, say you don't believe that something is real, or valid, you immediately are shoved into a pit of snakes. In general, if the populous continually becomes polarized on even a sociopolitical level, it may unravel the fabric of all our predecessor's work. On a personal level it pisses me off.
 
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I literally lost a friend because I couldn't bring myself to call her "they/them," especially when she admitted herself it was based around her self-hatred over her looks and hormone imbalances. I still kind of alternate between being angry at her stupidity and kind of feeling like a bigot, not like she'd forgive me anyway

Something similar happened to me, but with an online friend back in the day who I was close to. I made a joke on some nonbinary post and they lost it and ranted at me and insulted me, then cut our friendship off. Looking back they were a very angry unhappy person who you had to walk eggshells around.
 
I literally lost a friend because I couldn't bring myself to call her "they/them," especially when she admitted herself it was based around her self-hatred over her looks and hormone imbalances. I still kind of alternate between being angry at her stupidity and kind of feeling like a bigot, not like she'd forgive me anyway
I have an online friend of a friend who insists on using ze/zir pronouns and that she was not socialized as a woman, because she managed to "reject" all the information. I'm nice enough, but I'm so close to giving up and not use her dumb fucking pronouns anymore. It's so frustrating.
 
I have an online friend of a friend who insists on using ze/zir pronouns and that she was not socialized as a woman, because she managed to "reject" all the information. I'm nice enough, but I'm so close to giving up and not use her dumb fucking pronouns anymore. It's so frustrating.

Oh Christ. TBH I'll say "they/them" to friends of mine if they ask me to. But Ze/Zir, Xe/whatever is where I draw the line.
 
Real lgbt people who don't passively sit back and accept this madness should come forward to tell off the tumblr jargon for what it is..... trashy bullshit. Your gender and sexuality ain't a choice, kiddos.

I definitely agree. Thing is, I’m not sure how, which is kind of depressing. More and more news outlets and famous figures are buying into there being 57 varieties of genders and scared to offend the queer student body.

Basically, if lgbt people point out that it’s bullshit and making a mockery of their movement, they’re essentially kicked out of it. Cis lesbians are TERF, cis gay men are basically satan, cis bisexuals are straight passing... as for trans people, if they care enough to actually want to look like their preferred gender, then they’re not mentioning that they’re trans every five seconds. Which means that they’re not “breaking the gender binary” which means they’re basically cishets.

...It can feel like a no-win situation sometimes. There was already a piece a while back about gay men being not allowed in some LGBT spaces because privilege.
 
I definitely agree. Thing is, I’m not sure how, which is kind of depressing. More and more news outlets and famous figures are buying into there being 57 varieties of genders and scared to offend the queer student body.

Basically, if lgbt people point out that it’s bullshit and making a mockery of their movement, they’re essentially kicked out of it. Cis lesbians are TERF, cis gay men are basically satan, cis bisexuals are straight passing... as for trans people, if they care enough to actually want to look like their preferred gender, then they’re not mentioning that they’re trans every five seconds. Which means that they’re not “breaking the gender binary” which means they’re basically cishets.

...It can feel like a no-win situation sometimes. There was already a piece a while back about gay men being not allowed in some LGBT spaces because privilege.
Well I’m bisexual so I can’t speak for everyone, but I’m simultaneously pissed off when I hear “you’re too straight”, “you’re not even lgbt”, etc, and they insist their fakeass identities are, I wanna throttle them. It’s as bad as naysaying deniers saying that “it’s just a phase” or “you’ll get over it”.

I mean, I’m not even asking to be oppressed or a snowflake or anything, all I want is to be treated with decency, and these people don’t even practice what they preach, because they often exclude gay men & bisexual people.

They don’t preach decency, they preach tokenism and exclusion, it’s a game to them, of who can “smash the bINAREHHH” the fastest and that’s not what being lgbt is?? I don’t know how to explain it fully, but I’ve felt this way for a long time, and it’s part of who i am, I don’t let it compose my identity entirely… unlike them, I don’t talk about it every waking moment as if it’s my only defining trait… to me it’s how I’ve been for a long time and not what I consider to be of my own choosing. They have no right to be giving us shit for saying it’s not a choice when they themselves are manipulating and molding the label to become the antithesis of what it once was?

If anything they sound like the homophobes who’ve oppressed lgbt people over the years. It was “just a choice” to all the people who stuck lgbt folks in asylums and mental institutions and who forced conversion therapy on them, too. Theyre displaying regressive a f rhetoric in the name of progressivism, I fucking hate it. The left has gone wacko, as has any news outlet that’s adapted this nonbinarism madness. And people wonder why I began to consider myself a moderate.

I keep waiting for this trend to die. I was a SJW once, I went thru that phase, hella stupid, and learned the error of my ways. I began to resent it, and its existence. I prayed for its demise.It seems to have only exploded instead. The exact opposite of what I was hoping for. I watched many of my friends fall to madness. It seems innocuous enough, but their indoctrination and thought it almost like a little cult. Fucking awful, I just want it to die, alongside their fetishization of mental illnesses, esp mood disorders + bipolar disorder, ptsd, psychosis, etc. it’s not “cool”, it’s not “hip” and it won’t make you “popular”, maybe to the same outlying losers on tumblr who worship this shit, but us in the real world shoudjnt have to tolerate their entitled asses, let alone deal with them regularly. I’m not an “oppressor”, I’m rightfully fucking incensed. On a personal level, it stigmatizes me, and on a larger scale, it stigmatizes others, and shames the work of an entire movement that worked hard to earn rights for “marginalized” groups in the past. Just like all this “racial pride” and “let’s perpetuate misandry / misogyny” nonsense coming out of the far left and the far right.

It’s not like people actually worked to give us all rights or anything, so let’s just all hate one another and completely unwind the intent of trying to equalize each other!
fucking seriously, I can’t anymore. That’s their mindset.
 
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I definitely agree. Thing is, I’m not sure how, which is kind of depressing. More and more news outlets and famous figures are buying into there being 57 varieties of genders and scared to offend the queer student body.

Basically, if lgbt people point out that it’s bullshit and making a mockery of their movement, they’re essentially kicked out of it. Cis lesbians are TERF, cis gay men are basically satan, cis bisexuals are straight passing... as for trans people, if they care enough to actually want to look like their preferred gender, then they’re not mentioning that they’re trans every five seconds. Which means that they’re not “breaking the gender binary” which means they’re basically cishets.

...It can feel like a no-win situation sometimes. There was already a piece a while back about gay men being not allowed in some LGBT spaces because privilege.

It's crazy how the LGBT circle seems to be turning against each other.
 
:powerlevel: I'm (unfortunately) involved in some pretty liberal 'kweer politcs' circles due to a brief stint at my university's rainbow group. :powerlevel:

It's incredibly disheartening to see eighteen to twenty year olds who dress entirely feminine, or even just wear a graphic tee sometimes, claim to be transgender. A lot of them go along the lines of 'gender euphoria' or the Milo Stewart 'gender confusion' lines, and are genuinely convinced that traditionally gay or lesbian people are regressive because they don't subscribe to 'autigender'.

I've been called truscum for saying I don't understand why people without dysphoria would transition. (For the uninformed, 'truscum' are typically people who believe that dysphoria is a requirement to be transgender. Those who think anyone can be transgender, no matter what, and that xe have it the worst, dub themselves 'tucute'.)

The LGBT± community genuinely is experiencing an incredible amount of internal conflict, and most of it is coming from a combination of transgender and asexual politics.

The 'enby beans' are oppressed because strangers don't call someone who dresses entirely like a woman 'them', and the 'cake is better than sex' asexuals are oppressed because they have to form an emotional bond before having sex.

This is a pretty long post and borders on powerlevelling, but I feel like there might be some useful information for the lucky ones who prefer to stay out of certain circles.
 
:powerlevel: I'm (unfortunately) involved in some pretty liberal 'kweer politcs' circles due to a brief stint at my university's rainbow group. :powerlevel:

It's incredibly disheartening to see eighteen to twenty year olds who dress entirely feminine, or even just wear a graphic tee sometimes, claim to be transgender. A lot of them go along the lines of 'gender euphoria' or the Milo Stewart 'gender confusion' lines, and are genuinely convinced that traditionally gay or lesbian people are regressive because they don't subscribe to 'autigender'.

I've been called truscum for saying I don't understand why people without dysphoria would transition. (For the uninformed, 'truscum' are typically people who believe that dysphoria is a requirement to be transgender. Those who think anyone can be transgender, no matter what, and that xe have it the worst, dub themselves 'tucute'.)

The LGBT± community genuinely is experiencing an incredible amount of internal conflict, and most of it is coming from a combination of transgender and asexual politics.

The 'enby beans' are oppressed because strangers don't call someone who dresses entirely like a woman 'them', and the 'cake is better than sex' asexuals are oppressed because they have to form an emotional bond before having sex.

This is a pretty long post and borders on powerlevelling, but I feel like there might be some useful information for the lucky ones who prefer to stay out of certain circles.

Okay, how is it even an insult to say that trans people have to have dysphoria? Every trans person I know has dysphoria and is at least trying to get surgery.
 
What the fuck is trans masc even supposed to be? Like I know what trans is, but trans masc? Because every trans masc person I've seen basically just looks like a lesbian but with short hair.

Every person who I have seen using it is an AFAB person who doesn't want to be an 'icky oppressive man' and subsequently lose oppression points, but doesn't want to be an 'evil cis lesbian either'.

Okay, how is it even an insult to say that trans people have to have dysphoria? Every trans person I know has dysphoria and is at least trying to get surgery.

Honey, you got a big storm comin'.

If you decide one day you want in the cool 'transgender kweer treehouse', but you're perfectly happy with your tits, or you're a guy trying to get into some poor lesbian's pants, you declare yourself transgender.

If someone asks you why you're transgender but you don't wear anything other than a dress, or won't stop talking about your girldick, you slam them with the 'truscum' comment.

You are declared a medical, evil gatekeeper, and kicked out of the kweer community forever. :optimistic:
 
The most funny nonbinary Tumblr person I saw was this woman who posed sexually to turn on horny guys on Tumblr and did all of it for money. But they claimed they were nonbinary even though they looked entirely female and didn't even try to look the part. But if anyone misgendered her she'd give them hell and start ranting and it was like- of course they'll call you a girl. You look like a woman.

It was so entertaining.
 
Every person who I have seen using it is an AFAB person who doesn't want to be an 'icky oppressive man' and subsequently lose oppression points, but doesn't want to be an 'evil cis lesbian either'.



Honey, you got a big storm comin'.

If you decide one day you want in the cool 'transgender kweer treehouse', but you're perfectly happy with your tits, or you're a guy trying to get into some poor lesbian's pants, you declare yourself transgender.

If someone asks you why you're transgender but you don't wear anything other than a dress, or won't stop talking about your girldick, you slam them with the 'truscum' comment.

You are declared a medical, evil gatekeeper, and kicked out of the kweer community forever. :optimistic:

About the trans masc thing- the people I've seen doing it come off as gay fetishists and they are desperate to be posh English gay boys and it's really really weird.
 
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