NPCs: Born or made?

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I think a lot of it is conditioning. People just want to be seen as doing the "correct" thing whether or not they actually agree with it. I notice for some older folks it can also be really hard for them to break upwards of 30 years worth of bad habits. My old man constantly rants to me about how CNN and all the mainstream news is corrupt and biased yet every time I'm at his place the TV is tuned to CNN. I don't really blame him since he's from the generation that was "raised on TV" but its honestly kind of sad to see. I definitely think my generation and Gen Z might have it worse in the long run due to smart phones and how prevalent media is in all forms nowadays.

People just don't spend a lot of time alone in silence to think about who they are, why they do the things they do, etc. They're always plugged into something or have some sort of background noise to distract them from themselves. This is going to sound really gay but I think the best and healthiest way not to become an NPC is to take a break from the mass media and the over socialization from the internet; keep a journal and at the end of a year read the entries back to find out who you really are.
 
This is just down to the conflicting issues of individualism vs. collectivism in human nature.

No different than how there's no such thing as an "alpha" or "beta" but rather people who have a tendency to settle into certain roles given the dynamics of whatever group they're in, people aren't inherently NPCs, they've simply taken on a collectivist mindset because especially in the modern world there's only so much room for individuality. There are a lot of people and complex systems that need to be maintained where the more robotic you are the better you'll cope.

Like, at least as it is now you're better off joining in with the flock, because letting your testosterone flow and raging at the machine is probably just going to turn you into either a felon or a neurotic hermit.

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By the way, women are even worse about all this. It's just in their nature to be more... homogeneous. I think that's a good chunk of the angst of being a weird misfit, weird misfit women are harder to find for you and it's

I find it weird how even dudes I know who I'd describe as intellectual, at least somewhat, don't care one whit about a woman's personality beyond just that she's nice. That's like a different kind of shallow, it's not shallow like putting up with a bitch because she's pretty, but it's just changed it to "pretty and not overly repugnant to be around."

I went to this student film festival last night, and being the artistes these ought to be some of the more eccentric women, y'know, but all the men's submissions had decent stuff with plots or humor or whatever, and every woman's submission was about anxiety or body image or whatever, with long indulgent scenes of them putting on makeup/primping their hair, utter drivel. No exaggeration. So fucking boring. That's what women are. So rare to encounter one that isn't a meat-puppet.
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Wanting a woman who's "nice" could more be because intellectual dudes recognize that being overly choosy about a partner is stupid. People rarely have any idea who they'd actually be best with, you yourself are often the worst person to judge that, so basically so long as you have a foundation that someone is A) Nice B) Somewhat open minded C) not stupid to the point that you can't talk to them, and D) reasonably pretty by your standards, the rest you can adjust to.
 
Everyone is an NPC. Your beliefs and ideas are not special. I know mine aren't. However, the ability to take a step back and see the irony in society is what separates some people from others. That's what satire is, being able to see the patterns and the truth behind the trends, and maybe make a joke out of it. Everyone is capable of it; some people just prefer to live their days in ignorant bliss, and you can't blame them.
 
Uberpenguin said:
Wanting a woman who's "nice" could more be because intellectual dudes recognize that being overly choosy about a partner is stupid. People rarely have any idea who they'd actually be best with, you yourself are often the worst person to judge that, so basically so long as you have a foundation that someone is A) Nice B) Somewhat open minded C) not stupid to the point that you can't talk to them, and D) reasonably pretty by your standards, the rest you can adjust to.
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I mean, I'd be fine with a woman who meets those traits, all of life is a compromise and you're right that people don't know what they really want, I've just noticed that at least among the people I know, they don't even consider anything beyond that a plus. Like, strict preference for more attractiveness over all other things, minimum standards of "is nice" and being the right background satisfied.
 
Good question. I've been brooding on this on and off lately. Most people, regardless of what walk of life they're from, seem to have an aversion to thinking in any capacity. This doesn't necessarily make them bad or stupid people. It also doesn't mean they can't be broken out of that mindset. In my opinion, of course.

Sometimes though, I wonder if most people would have been better off if they were born as farm animals instead of human beings. On the other hand, at least farm animals are useful and they can be loveable too. People who are NPCs? It varies.
 
Working at a young age (ie fast food/retail high school), seems to be the most consistent factor, this leads to a lack of tech, mathematical, and scientific literacy and not being as well read in general, as well the NPC behavior is just worker behavior generalized to everyday life. I guess the idea that these people would have been serfs in the past has some merit, but I think it's mostly environmental.
 
NPCs are born, they're just people who aren't curious. In the past they wouldn't be reading newspapers, they wouldn't be reading books and so they wouldn't have opinions or knowledge on most things. They wouldn't know nor care.

If they ever did read a newspaper, they'd just believe everything at face value, probably not even finish reading a single article. Would be an NPC on what little "information" to are exposed to.

Now in the information age, they are bombarded with information on all sorts of topics constantly. Which they uncritically just accept. Depending on the bubble they are in determines what side of politics NPC they are.
 
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This is related to something I've been thinking about/working on for the past year or so, so excuse my long-winded answer

We all rely on being able to acquire knowledge from other people or institutions. I call this "social knowledge" (in contrast to empirical knowledge or rational knowledge). Since we are actually extremely limited on what we can experience ourselves and often lack the comprehension of a subject to form a complex rational argument, we get the vast majority of our knowledge from other people. So we all to a greater or lesser degree form our opinions based on the information and opinions given to us by other people or institutions. And while a doctor for example might have more empirical/rational knowledge of transgender issues (and even then, that knowledge is probably limited), he must still rely on social knowledge to form his opinions on foreign policy. So if that's your definition of an "NPC," all of humanity are basically npcs.
 
A tricky question. Its a bit of both really. Its proven repeatedly that along with physical traits, genetics influence behavior most of the time. Sometimes right down to preference! But that usually isn't enough to turn you into an NPC.

Then there's direct behavior control from other people. Who in turn were raised that way because of family and environment. Speaking of which, there is alot of things in society that shapes your behavior in subtle ways you don't perceive while growing up. Such as how you react to other people. And this is usually based on the behavior of your peers and what the media you consume is showing you. Then there are bits of knowledge that you are simply never encouraged to have.

Such as in public schools, ever notice how dry and pathetic teachers usually are when teaching math and science? How its seen as a burden rather as opportunity? Alot of it is because of the people running the schools simply care more about quota rather than the students applying those two critical components into their life. Which is why most people tend to hate math and science after school. When in reality, it can open way more options than a normal person should have. Then there's how personal initiative tends to get shot down in those schools. Being made fun of by both the staff and the students.

Combine those, and here you have the NPC. A drone broken by society made to follow the options in front of them without question. Never mind the back roads.

TL;DR: Genes and regular memes make the NPC.
 
If it's like the nature vs nurture debate I say depends how they are raise or never accepted that they are NPCs. So I say more on accept the girl dick, accept the bugs, or some retard thing like that.
 
PaleTay said:
Working at a young age (ie fast food/retail high school), seems to be the most consistent factor, this leads to a lack of tech, mathematical, and scientific literacy and not being as well read in general, as well the NPC behavior is just worker behavior generalized to everyday life.
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It's the other way round. Stupid people tend to be poor, and have stupid children. And since they're poor, they have to work shit jobs since an early age. An intelligent person won't be damaged somehow by doing this kind of work.

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Such as in public schools, ever notice how dry and pathetic teachers usually are when teaching math and science? How its seen as a burden rather as opportunity?
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Because it is a burden. Have you ever tried to explain some mathematical or physical concept to someone who just doesn't get it? You try different analogies, you show various examlpes, do experiments, and he still doesn't get it. Now imagine doing that for 30h a week for years. I bet you'd become "dry and pathetic" too. OTOH, in a school selective enough that their students generally get it, even an uncharismatic teacher can be successful.
 
Great topic. I think it's a bit of both nature and nurture. The NPCs are people who are susceptible to suggestion and manipulation. I don't remember the person's name, but the guy who came up with the mass formation hypnosis theory broke it down like this:
- 30% of folks will accept the narrative, no questions asked
- 40% will be fence sitters
- remaining 30% will question the narrative and are considered "outliers" in society

Bottom line is that there's a group of folks out there, seemingly the "majority", (though not really) who will just do/say what they are told. Not just that, they will very vocally and unapologetically defend the system. In other words, they suffer from "appeal to authority" and are indentured slaves.

So, you've got people prone to manipulation whom are being saturated in modern day propaganda. And the NPC is born.
 
We're all NPCs on a bunch of topics, the alt-right has tons of topics they don't give a flying fuck about like Make Up or the Kardashaians.

I bet if you asked most of the people on the alt-right about the real housewives they'd fit the definition of an NPC either they are apathetic or give an opinion that they never blatantly stole from pop culture (like south park)

of course what matters to some doesn't matter to others, i know a chick into astrology that acts superior to everyone because we don't give a fuck about the star alignments. to her everyone else is an NPC.

Another problem is apathy "you can't fight city hall" plenty of people especially older people don't have the obnoxious need to question things that people have when they're teenagers because they've lived long enough to see it doesn't matter. plenty of blackpilled individuals who get shoved in the NPC category.

On the flip side once liberal bullshit infiltrates something someone cares about they will sperg hard, two french coons won the first season of world of dance a few years back, and most people wouldn't give a fuck but it redpilled a bunch of women in the dance community hard. Same thing with Big Brother and the cookout. these NPCs on politics suddenly became wheatfield bitches once les twins came onto the scene. Its like gamergate redpilling young white men on how evil the left is, everyone has stuff they enjoy that will get attacked and some won't care, some will shrug, but enough will care enough to be pissed about it.

Just look at college women's swimming right now and how many women suddenly are throwing away their pussy hats and grabbing a sundress and heading to the wheatfields because of that fuckery. last year you'd consider them NPCs of the highest order now they're trump babes 2024.

TL;DR we all go into NPC mode sometimes, but even NPCs become real people once you talk about certain topics or hobbies.
 
Dude have you ever talked to people from LA?
Everyone I talk to from LA is a pretentious virtue signaller who thinks they are hot shit while spouting the same BLM tranny rights bullshit.

If your born in LA I would say you are born an NPC.
If you are deciding to move to LA you are throwing your freedom away.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
I believe it's somewhat related to this study:

Not Everyone Conducts Inner Speech​

It's possible those who can't think for themselves (or even think to themselves) are more likely to have NPC mentality, but it doesn't seem to be clear if that's nature or nurture.

I just really found it super fascinating that when the NPC meme kicked off, it got the media and Twitter bots so fucking mad. Like why would anyone get bothered by a meme unless it hit way too close to home--or to the truth?
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I never got why the whole inner speech thing was such a big deal with pol and the like. Just because you speak to yourself doesn't mean that you're more of a free thinker than someone who thinks in a more abstract way.

Think about your own internal monolog, I'd imagine that it's in English right? Or whatever your native tongue is but those words and sentences aren't yours are they? You didn't invent a new language, you're using the one you learned throughout your life. In a sense the words of every person you've ever encountered and every person they're encountered lives in you head. The same is true of the written word and even this post.
 
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I never got why the whole inner speech thing was such a big deal with pol and the like. Just because you speak to yourself doesn't mean that you're more of a free thinker than someone who thinks in a more abstract way.

Think about your own internal monolog, I'd imagine that it's in English right? Or whatever your native tongue is but those words and sentences aren't yours are they? You didn't invent a new language, you're using the one you learned throughout your life. In a sense the words of every person you've ever encountered and every person they're encountered lives in you head. The same is true of the written word and even this post.
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Maybe the people using decypherabke language were the real npcs all along.
 
Fools Idol said:
I never got why the whole inner speech thing was such a big deal with pol and the like. Just because you speak to yourself doesn't mean that you're more of a free thinker than someone who thinks in a more abstract way.

Think about your own internal monolog, I'd imagine that it's in English right? Or whatever your native tongue is but those words and sentences aren't yours are they? You didn't invent a new language, you're using the one you learned throughout your life. In a sense the words of every person you've ever encountered and every person they're encountered lives in you head. The same is true of the written word and even this post.
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Based.
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