Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

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Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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Anyone with a PACER account feel like spending a few dollars and uploading some of the post-election legal shenanigans here or the legal sub forum? People keep asking to see the evidence, but media outlets and platforms are so in bed with Biden, that if there was good evidence coming out of these court cases they would just ignore or downplay it. Trump is probably more concerned with proving his case to the courts and insiders than the general public right now, so I have to wonder how much is getting lost or purposefully ignored in the shuffle. I'm temped to do it myself, but I don't know how to navigate something like that being an absolute legal brainlet.

Guliani in one of his cigar promotional videos has photos of boxes of ballots in shabby cardboard boxes, when according to him they are suppose to legally be in thick wooden boxes, but I don't want to just take his word for it. Those cigar and fishoil ad reads prove he is a really good pitchman. I may just start watching his stuff for public speaking and persuasion study.
 
So did Trump but somehow that's not suspicious?
It is ALL suspicious, but somehow despite weird shit happening in elections in the past suddenly one side is DEEPLY incurious about weird shit happening THIS time.
 
Here's a conspiracy; you can go on this forum and post your bull shit all day, but if I go onto a website for the "other side" and post I will be immediately censored.
If you violate their TOS, then yeah. But there's a ton of Trump supporters on Twitter and Facebook
 
Conspiracies can be legit when there is actual proof of them happening. There's zero evidence in this case.

I can claim that bigfoot is real, but until I produce evidence, it's just a conspiracy. By your logic, I guess Loch Ness Monster is real, too.
Bigfoot and loch ness arent conspiracies you retard. They are cryptids.


A conspiracy theory is a hypothesis about multiple people/groups working together to accomplish a goal.

If you are going to use specialized words then for the love of God use them correctly.
 
Conspiracies can be legit when there is actual proof of them happening. There's zero evidence in this case.

I can claim that bigfoot is real, but until I produce evidence, it's just a conspiracy. By your logic, I guess Loch Ness Monster is real, too.
Strictly speaking, I wouldn't say Bigfoot or Loch Ness are conspiracies, they are myths, like all monster stories.
Conspiracy theories adhere more to the principle of the original word conspiracy - that is to say they are theories of nefarious undertakings by an individual or group which are illegal or harmful to others/society.
Werewolves, witches, bigfoot, mothman etc are myths, stories about creatures or supernatural occurrences that defy normal explanation.
UFOs are technically both myth and conspiracy because there are stories of alien "monsters" without proof but there is also a level of conspiracy in that the US government hid away knowledge of them for decades before finally declassifying what they knew in recent years.

But back to the topic. You say there's zero evidence in this case - Why would you expect conclusive evidence when the actual investigating hasn't even begun? No, there is not, at this point, conclusive evidence enough to say that there was widespread fraud to swing the election. There is however enough evidence that some shit could have went wrong to merit doing an investigation to see if there is any conclusive evidence to be found. And it will probably all amount to nothing, but at least it would be done.
 
Except those "mishaps" and "convenient coincidences" are perfectly explained or just made up entirely. International election observers said that it was fair. Election workers for the states, in both parties, said there was nothing screwy going on. Unless you think there is a world-wide conspiracy against Trump, in which case you are not even worth debating because you're so retarded, there was nothing going on.
So you believe that the EU and Canada cannot co-ordinate to act together to sabotage Trump as that would be ridiculous?
 
So you believe that the EU and Canada cannot co-ordinate to act together to sabotage Trump as that would be ridiculous?
Seems a bit outlandish, so yes, unless there's evidence suggesting otherwise.

If there was fraud, why didn't do they do it in 2016 and more importantly, why didn't the Dems retake the senate?
 
I can claim that bigfoot is real, but until I produce evidence, it's just a conspiracy.
There has been evidence of Bigfoot for the entire existence of the Bigfoot story.

Presenting said evidence:

You know what that video isn't?

It isn't proof.

Evidence is suggestion; proof is confirmation.

There is ample election fraud evidence to support investigation and perhaps a legal trial on one or many counts. Will anything rise to level of being proof inside a court room? I don't know. You don't know. Few people outside the Trump campaign know.

Evidence you've personally rejected as unsupportive of the claims before you is not the same as not being presented evidence, especially not with the mountains of irregularities pointed out in this thread.

Please take a moment and crack open a dictionary the next time you want to rant about evidence.
 
Conspiracies can be legit when there is actual proof of them happening. There's zero evidence in this case.

I can claim that bigfoot is real, but until I produce evidence, it's just a conspiracy. By your logic, I guess Loch Ness Monster is real, too.
Normally I wouldn't get involved with a conversation like this since it's all just massive shitflinging, but there is a thread that's dedicated to archiving everything related to the election fraud shit going on. Now while I can understand your gig with wanting to make fun of the newfags from /pol/ you really should be more observant rather than just saying dumb things on purpose to bait negrates.

You're not @Dyn, calm down.
 
Seems a bit outlandish, so yes, unless there's evidence suggesting otherwise.

If there was fraud, why didn't do they do it in 2016 and more importantly, why didn't the Dems retake the senate?
What makes you think there wasn't fraud afoot in 2016, or any other election before that? There were people screaming about everything from faithless electors to outright cheating being present in that election, and elections before that. But this is the election where you say "everything's fine, quit worrying about it lol", despite there being more outright questionable shit here than even in 2000, you partisan hack. People are seeing smoke YET AGAIN but now you scream that there is no fire?
 
Seems a bit outlandish, so yes, unless there's evidence suggesting otherwise.

If there was fraud, why didn't do they do it in 2016 and more importantly, why didn't the Dems retake the senate?
It seems like the unofficial mission statement of the EU, and countries seeking to join the EU that they would act as a bloc so it's not that absurd.

Democrats not retaking the Senate makes the fraud more believable, I'd be way more shocked if they did something in an extremely competent manner.
 
What makes you think there wasn't fraud afoot in 2016, or any other election before that? There were people screaming about everything from faithless electors to outright cheating being present in that election, and elections before that. But this is the election where you say "everything's fine, quit worrying about it lol", despite there being more outright questionable shit here than even in 2000, you partisan hack. People are seeing smoke YET AGAIN but now you scream that there is no fire?

President Trump has claimed widespread fraud was at play in the presidential election. Several of his lawyers have told judges in courtrooms across the country that they don’t believe that to be true.

So yeah, despite what Dear Leader says, his lawyers don't agree when questioned under oath.
 
I wouldn't say so but the odds shrink because now he not only needs to reverse PA but also both Michigan and Georgia, both of which seem unlikely. Unless the court cases in Arizona look anything as good as those in PA, which would mean he'd still need two of those. They're still possible though.
I'll be legit surprised if it turns around in Donald's favor. Like the asspull required to overcome the asspull democrats did these last four years will be phenominal.
 
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