Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

[theshep]

 

[E. Knee as Weapon - Cont.]

Yes, becoming an overeducated midwit and bugman will almost always lead you to more liberal policy views. The only problem is, the term "liberal" is constantly evolving. 10 years ago, it was live and let live. 5 years ago it was bake the cake bigot. Current year it's basically "let's put everyone questioning this election on a list"

I listened to a podcast a while ago about preference falsification and it was a bit of an eye opener. As much as I push the boundaries with my friend group, there's lots of verboten opinions I hold that I have to obfuscate lest it cause issues. Not even /pol/-tier shit, just things that are more effort than they're worth to argue, like how the Green New Deal is going to be a nightmare for the poor, or how AOC is a cringe-tier lapdog for the Democrats, or how identity politics is compatible with neoliberalism rather than a challenge to it.

I have to keep that shit under even tighter wraps where I work because of the nature of the workplace and how they feel about breaking with groupthink (it's a white collar/professional place).

So I wonder how many people are as progressive as they claim to be, and how many are just going along to get along.

 

[Andrew Neiman]

Yes, becoming an overeducated midwit and bugman will almost always lead you to more liberal policy views. The only problem is, the term "liberal" is constantly evolving. 10 years ago, it was live and let live. 5 years ago it was bake the cake bigot. Current year it's basically "let's put everyone questioning this election on a list"

AOC had a full ride to Boston College. She was "educated" yet after graduating, she couldn't find work anywhere outside of pouring drinks at a dive bar. Then the young turks propped her up as a prog candidate. Now she's in a position to do serious damage. This is why education or "muh democracy" won't solve anything.

I'm not claiming that people with liberal views are better or "smarter" than people with conservative views. However, there is a well established correlation between education and politically liberal views. This could be a problem if you want to introduce tests that would effectively restrict voting rights to more educated people, as Mr. Flimflam suggested. I don't think that introducing civics tests for voting rights would be a good idea.

 

[Invoke-Mimikatz]

Stop trying to Jew people.

No one excluded the GOP monitors, they just didn't allow them unlimited numbers to flood the place. Doesn't everyone remember the court transcript where Trump's lawyers we badgered by the judge after saying there were a non-zero number of GOP watchers.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

I'm not claiming that people with liberal views are better or "smarter" than people with conservative views. However, there is a well established correlation between education and politically liberal views. This could be a problem if you want to introduce tests that would effectively restrict voting rights to more educated people, as Mr. Flimflam suggested. I don't think that introducing civics tests for voting rights would be a good idea.

As long as they are informed. As I said, I don't want mob rule, that's my problem with current version of "everyone votes" democracy.

In this current form, as long as you play a character to demographics and pander, you win the popularity contest on how well you are liked by your acting skills, not by your policy. (fuck you (((Edward Bernays))) for setting this up)

There's a anecdote: During the Nixon /Kennedy debate, if you listened on the radio, Nixon won because of policy he spoke of, however if you watched on tv Kennedy won because of his looks and charms since Nixon looked like a mess.

 

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

As long as they are informed. As I said, I don't want mob rule, that's my problem with current everyone votes democracy.

In this current form, as long as you play a character to demography, you win the popularity contest (fuck you (((Edward Bernays))))

There's a anecdote. The Nixon /Kennedy debate. If you listened on the radio, Nixon won because of policy. If you watched on tv Kennedy won because of looks

this post is almost illiterate. take a break.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

this post is almost illiterate. take a break.

Nah. But I will edit it better for you.

 

[Flip: Draw 2]

A voting test shouldn't be about education but the capacity to have a cohesive system of beliefs outside of "muh team."

Seeing a lot of Dems say "count every vote" then immediately do a 180 a day later saying "no recounts" should tell you a lot about the average person's intelligence.

 

[Andrew Neiman]

There's a anecdote. The Nixon /Kennedy debate. If you listened on the radio, Nixon won because of policy. If you watched on tv Kennedy won because of looks

Sometimes our simian brains sit uncomfortably with the civilization we've built for ourselves. I have no blueprint to solve these problems; I just know that I'm thankful to be living here, rather than, for instance, in Somalia, and now, rather than, for instance, 500 years ago. As fucked as things seem right now, they could be a lot worse, at least for people like you and me.

As an aside, this could make a good avatar.

Seeing a lot of Dems say "count every vote" then immediately do a 180 a day later saying "no recounts" should tell you a lot about the average person's intelligence.

Trust me, the problem is never that you're too smart and the rest of society is too dumb.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

Sometimes our simian brains sit uncomfortably with the civilization we've built for ourselves. I have no blueprint to solve these problems; I just know that I'm thankful to be living here, rather than, for instance, in Somalia, and now, rather than, for instance, 500 years ago. As fucked as things seem right now, they could be a lot worse, at least for people like you and me.

Well at least at the end of the day we can agree on something. Hear hear

 

[Flip: Draw 2]

Trust me, the problem is never that you're too smart and the rest of society is too dumb.

If you think being consistent for a few days is too high a bar then I have some bad news for you.

 

[Sithis]

However, there is a well established correlation between education and politically liberal views.

And there's a well established correlation between aging and politically conservative views. If it comes between it, I'll take the opinion of someone with 50 years of experience and wisdom in life over the opinion of a 22 year old with a bachelors degree in making hemp yarn any day.

 

[Andrew Neiman]

And there's a well established correlation between aging and politically conservative views. If it comes between it, I'll take the opinion of someone with 50 years of experience and wisdom in life over the opinion of a 22 year old with a bachelors degree in making hemp yarn any day.

Again, I'm not bringing it up to argue that liberals are better than conservatives, but to point out potential issues with instituting civics tests for voting.

If you think being consistent for a few days is too high a bar then I have some bad news for you.

I think you know that people on the other side of the divide would also claim, with justification, that people on your side have been inconsistent. This isn't a case of all the smart people in society lining up on one side and all the stupid people lining up on the other.

 

[BlackDragoons]

I never subscribed to the mentality that McCain was a racist. But a war monger, sure.
I could go on a tangent about the US's involvement in the Middle East and why it just doesn't fucking matter what we do, but the reason I hold McCain in higher regard than Trump is that he understood that you have to meet in the middle with the other side on some things. He was also willing to challenge the collective opinions of the RNC on their ideals, especially when it comes to Obamacare. He was one of the few Republicans to realize that dismantling Obamacare isn't getting rid of something that Obama put in, it's dismantling and ruining Medicare and Medicaid, a system that on top of being used by Welfare Queens, is used by the disabled and retired.
He also was one of the few to call out Mitch McConnell on his bullshit when it came to election security and safety.
As a matter of fact, the entire second half of this thread can be blamed on McConnell not listening to McCain.
There was a bipartisan attempt to shore up election security both digitally and physically due to the 2016 election and McCain was all for it. He knew that it would prevent a repeat of Democrats blaming Russian collusion, thus saving taxpayer money on a multimillion dollar investigation into whomever could be blamed next. It was also useful for both sides because it would prevent a repeat of what Trump was pulling on Ted Cruz, accusing him of fraud back in 2015/2016.
Whole thing came down to McConnell who was against it. McCain said "The only reason you would be against this movement is if you are working for a foreign power. This literally helps everyone"
and McConnell shut it down.

And here we are.

Edits: Forgmatting and typos

One of the things that make me like McCain over Trump was that at one point he was willing to throw down with orange boy.



Side bite Trump Jr has the covid.

 

[Paranoia Machine]

As soon as Democrat government workers in blue cities started excluding Republican poll watchers from counting centers a full audit of all voting in these areas was going to happen.

Bitch and moan all you want, it's those officials fault for acting like sketchy cunts.

This will go to SCOTUS who will decide whether or not locking out GOP scrutineers was legal.

Or I could do the rational thing and use just an ounce of my brain and some common sense to say: this whole thing is massively overblown and everyone is acting like an episode of House of Cards is playing out before their eyes when in all reality, it's just the day-to-day grind of a polling center. I'd like to point out a ton of these polling centers are volunteer-based with only a few hired positions by state departments that have nothing to do with either party.
If you have ever worked in an office environment or anywhere that works with even a small amount of paperwork; you would know that there is a massive need for shredders and consolidation of paperwork.

Stop trying to Jew people.

This is absolutely conjecture. You do realize that a poll-watcher is not any random fuck that shows up on election day to watch polls be tallied, right? I'd also like to point out a few things about this video that makes this reek of spin.
1. The video is uploaded by some rightwing-bias youtuber that has video upon video of "Gotchas" against the Dems, which brings his credibility into question.
2. He disabled comments because of "Leftist Trolls" meaning he shut down any exchange of ideas, proof, or any form of verification
3. We only have the uploader's word that all of these people are state-appointed poll-watchers
4. We see a literal full room of watchers and poll-counters that stretches back as far as the camera can see, the chances of every single person in there being solely democrat are so low you'd have to be an idiot to assume they are.
5. Other states have shown videos of literal randoms both Democrat and Republican trying to get into the polling centers and being left outside.

This entire thing has gone to court already and was dismissed by a Republican appointed judge because the Trump defense team admitted there were government appointed poll-watchers in the buildings.
I'm no Democrat but I'm also not dumb enough to not see a pattern in behavior from Trump. He cried fraud during the GOP primaries against Ted Cruz, he cried fraud when he won against Hillary, and he's crying fraud now against Biden. It doesn't take a genius to see that Trump cries fraud whenever he can to paint himself as the victim in order to get pity points.
If there is fraud, it is absolutely going to be from the election systems themselves, not the hand-counted polling centers; and even that is starting to look a bit scant because both Rudy Giuliani and Sydney Powell are not sharing their findings.
When even Tucker Carlson, one of Trump's staunchest supporters in MSM is having trouble believing your story, it may be time to add some plot spackle.

Now whether there was fraud or not, you're going to have to read the writing on the wall at some point. The reason this is happening isn't just because of the Democrats. There is a reason that there are very few Republicans chomping at the bit to defend Trump and that is because he was a bad candidate. Tons of people here, myself included, voted for Trump because it was "I will take anybody other than Hillary".
This year, the mentality swung the other way. And you don't have to go far to find that shitloads of celebrities, youtubers, athletes, twitch tards, and political talking heads on every station were urging people to vote since the beginning of 2019. It's not that farfetched that people are voting in huge droves for Biden, especially if you see how the past four years may effect people outside of your immediate political circle.


And before you start calling me a jew for having the audacity to greet your video with skepticism and citing Tucker Carlson; or decide to go on on ad nauseum about how "the MSM can't be trusted"
Please keep in mind that one of the strongest tenants in Communism is the belief that the media is the enemy of the people.

 

[Flip: Draw 2]

Again, I'm not bringing it up to argue that liberals are better than conservatives, but to point out potential issues with instituting civics tests for voting.

I think you know that people on the other side of the divide would also claim, with justification, that people on your side have been inconsistent. This isn't a case of all the smart people in society lining up on one side and all the stupid people lining up on the other.

I said they just have to be consistent. Not that they have to be correct or lean one way or another. I just pointed out the most recent big example of blatant hypocrisy I could think of.
You can easily point out the hypocrisy of both sides just fine but that just means there's a clear problem with "team players."
I'd even say a lot of crazier people on the left, despite disagreeing with them, are more consistent than your average Republican grifter. You literally just assumed you were being attacked because I used Democrats as an example. That's just tribalism clouding your reason.

 

[All becomes gunt]

I said they just have to be consistent. Not that they have to be correct or lean one way or another. I just pointed out the most recent big example of blatant hypocrisy I could think of.
You can easily point out the hypocrisy of both sides just fine but that just means there's a clear problem with "team players."
I'd even say a lot of crazier people on the left, despite disagreeing with them, are more consistent than your average Republican grifter.

The grifters are just shameless and hillarious. Never once i thought when i started my crusade against em long ago that i will find someone that wants to save the white race by getting sodomized by catboys.

 

[Psychic Espeon]

Nothing Burger.

 

[Paranoia Machine]

Liberals one way or the other you will come to realise that this bubble that you live in is not sustainable, and it's about to burst, and all illusions will shatter by a big slap in the face. With some poetic justice you might end up dying by the same pet niggers you keep propping up.

Gunt, when the liberal bubble pops and us dark skinned type rise up, I'll stop the other darkies from killing you. I'll have to tell them you're my white whipping boi tho.

 

[All becomes gunt]

Gunt, when the liberal bubble pops and us dark skinned type rise up, I'll stop the other darkies from killing you. I'll have to tell them you're my white whipping boi tho.

Ah fuck it when we win i am putting you on my plantation. You'll get on by well. You also get vidya and good pizza if you work well.