Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

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Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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He's not a saint because he's not orange, he's a saint because he said 'orange man bad' while having very little in the way of policy differences with said orange man other than 'WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR' openly instead of Trump quietly whispering it while ordering drone strikes.
Agreed. Trump continued Obama's drone program.

When the dems and media were creaming themselves at a chance for yet another war in the Middle East through Syria, he didn't allow it. Though im sure we will now through Biden/Harris. They love bombing brown people.
 
John "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb iran" McCain

John "drill, baby, drill" McCain

I remember when he was called racist and a war monger but now he's suddenly a saint because he's not orange.
I never subscribed to the mentality that McCain was a racist. But a war monger, sure.
I could go on a tangent about the US's involvement in the Middle East and why it just doesn't fucking matter what we do, but the reason I hold McCain in higher regard than Trump is that he understood that you have to meet in the middle with the other side on some things. He was also willing to challenge the collective opinions of the RNC on their ideals, especially when it comes to Obamacare. He was one of the few Republicans to realize that dismantling Obamacare isn't getting rid of something that Obama put in, it's dismantling and ruining Medicare and Medicaid, a system that on top of being used by Welfare Queens, is used by the disabled and retired.
He also was one of the few to call out Mitch McConnell on his bullshit when it came to election security and safety.
As a matter of fact, the entire second half of this thread can be blamed on McConnell not listening to McCain.
There was a bipartisan attempt to shore up election security both digitally and physically due to the 2016 election and McCain was all for it. He knew that it would prevent a repeat of Democrats blaming Russian collusion, thus saving taxpayer money on a multimillion dollar investigation into whomever could be blamed next. It was also useful for both sides because it would prevent a repeat of what Trump was pulling on Ted Cruz, accusing him of fraud back in 2015/2016.
Whole thing came down to McConnell who was against it. McCain said "The only reason you would be against this movement is if you are working for a foreign power. This literally helps everyone"
and McConnell shut it down.

And here we are.

Edits: Forgmatting and typos
 
Agreed. Trump continued Obama's drone program.

When the dems and media were creaming themselves at a chance for yet another war in the Middle East through Syria, he didn't allow it. Though im sure we will now through Biden/Harris. They love bombing brown people.
Bombing brown people is totes okay. Putting brown people in cages for illegally crossing our border makes you Hitler 2.0
 
McCain in higher regard than Trump is that he understood that you have to meet in the middle with the other side on some things

Honestly. It seems like McCain gets cast as the noble loser that they want all Republicans to be.

For everything else you said I'm not an expert even though it would be fun to do the point by point autistic slapfight. Ill have to take all you said as food for though to look more into. So thanks for the interesting post to jump ofc into more reading on.
 
Honestly. It seems like McCain gets cast as the noble loser that they want all Republicans to be.

For everything else you said I'm not an expert even though it would be fun to do the point by point autistic slapfight. Ill have to take all you said as food for though to look more into. So thanks for the interesting post to jump ofc into more reading on.
Ay, thanks for being candid about it.
I'm no expert either, just repeating the stuff I've seen. It's absolutely worth looking into if only to see that McCain is more than "That guy that lost to Obama". I could be wrong or my paraphrasing may not do the full subject justice, but it's been years.
Hope you find something interesting in your readings!
 
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If your only way to win is to put your hand on the scale or outright cheat and shout racism whenever anyone calls you on it, you must have a shitty party.

Keep in mind that Stacy Abrams is still wandering the wilds of Georgia telling anyone that she comes across that she’s the true and honest governor.
Lol you're still going with the "cheating" shit? Learn to accept reality. Your guy lost because he's a pretty unlikeable guy to the majority of people. The only chance the Republicans had was to not allow people to vote, and even that didn't work. Accept your loss with dignity instead of going full QAnon.

Ay, thanks for being candid about it.
I'm no expert either, just repeating the stuff I've seen. It's absolutely worth looking into if only to see that McCain is more than "That guy that lost to Obama". I could be wrong or my paraphrasing may not do the full subject justice, but it's been years.
Hope you find something interesting in your readings!
McCain was always willing to negotiate with both sides of the aisle. He even worked with a Democrat senator to get the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act passed. Sure, it's not a perfect act, but it shows that at one time the parties could work together
 
You guys should realise two things about the Trump lawsuits
1. The media has made it seem like his lawsuits are the one getting thrown out, e.g. any suit that alleges voter fraud has to be a Trump suit. This is false. As Giluani said, they only have a handful of suits.

2. These actual Trump suits are not just claiming voter fraud in the sense that a few people are illegally casting ballots. They're alleging election fraud, which is insinuated to be of a larger scale. Even I conflated the two earlier (EDIT: in terms of diction at least), but they're not necessarily the same things.
So that was the MSM fuckery happening atm, who else is doing the other suits being thrown out though?
 
I can't wait to watch this live :popcorn:
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Ah yes, quoting a barely functioning moron that died at the age of 21 to justify your misanthropy. I see nothing retarded about this
There's nothing misanthropic about acknowledging the average person doesn't have the capacity to make informed decisions. You go on to make this point later in your post, yikes.

Shit areas like Florida, North Carolina, Arizona, Ohio, Missouri, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Virginia are given far more power to control the direction of the US than they should.
And I'd like to point out that these places have large amounts of disenfranchised, low-income, and government assisted people living in them. That or they are actually problematic areas such as Florida
I agree, white trash on welfare shouldn't be able to vote either. I prefer we do away with voting all together.

Democracy is mob rule, yes; but it's not like they give much power to the "barely literate retards in urban areas" to begin with
Add up the electoral votes from NY, Cali and Illinois. You're over third of the way to the presidency without having to do shit. These people are literal cattle who blindly follow their rootless cosmopolitan masters. At least white trash in the above referenced states don't reliably vote 90% for the same party every single time.
 
Let's not throw out the baby with the bath water.

How about a free for everyone, unlimited tries but hard test to get a voting license. It can test knowledge of modern history, and government.
It would actually be easier to dispense with voting than get that rammed through.

As it is voting is basically a joke - barely registers as a "polite suggestion", basically meaningless when the system has been wracked by fraud for decades, and all that combined with two-party-uniparty FPTP bullshit means it's basically a way for tinpots to legitimize fraud by making the electorate own a decision that might not have even been theirs to make, realistically.

Our current system is basically "victim blaming" writ large. Funny how none of the usual people who scream about that are willing to call it that.
 
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It would actually be easier to dispense with voting than get that rammed through.

As it is voting is basically a joke - barely registers as a "polite suggestion", basically meaningless when the system has been wracked by fraud for decades, and all that combined with two-party-uniparty FPTP bullshit means it's basically a way for tinpots to legitimize fraud by making the electorate own a decision that might not have even been theirs to make, realistically.

Our current system is basically "victim blaming" writ large. Funny how none of the usual people who scream about that are willing to call it that.
Easy in the short term but more retarded in the long term.
If your solution to a corrupted system is to destroy it, then I have news for you: the people corrupting said system will just move onto the next adjacent system.

Have fun getting rid of Electoral Colleges, voting for other government branches, and then being able to influence politics in any method ever again. All on the premise of "it's easier." I'd rather have those chucklefucks be busy trying to influence a vote that "barely registers as 'polite suggestion.'"

I get it's a slippery slope, but the mindset of "it's broken, destroy it" is pretty retarded.
 
There's nothing misanthropic about acknowledging the average person doesn't have the capacity to make informed decisions. You go on to make this point later in your post, yikes.
The mistake isn't assuming that people are ignorant and manipulable; the mistake is assuming that one stands above them.
 
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