Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

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Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
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The right: Wait you really expect me to believe Biden, with virtually no campaigning, managed to induce record turnouts in four swing states, that was only called after the same four states paused counting, in an election where he did worse than Hillary across the board and while Trump increased his total number of votes?

The left: Conspiracy theory! Look at Guliani's hair dye! The news said Biden won! The news said it!
Look dude, I'm not a leftie and I have zero confidence in our institutions at this point.

But I've done the math in the swing states and I'm guessing you haven't bothered. Counts are controlled on the county level, and in most Trump supporting counties in places he lost like Georgia and Wisconsin the pattern is clear: Trump lost support compared to 2016 and so the states swung on those margins.

You may not want to accept it, but that's how it is.
 
Is it really? You can hate both Trump and the Far Left's bullshit. It doesn't have to be one or the other.
Only around 30% of the US identifies as Republican. In that group support for Trump is incredibly high upwards of 90% and most of the rest probably still voted for him. The problem is you can't win an election with even 100% of 30% or same with the slightly higher % of self indentifying Democrats for that side.
Look dude, I'm not a leftie and I have zero confidence in our institutions at this point.

But I've done the math in the swing states and I'm guessing you haven't bothered. Counts are controlled on the county level, and in most Trump supporting counties in places he lost like Georgia and Wisconsin the pattern is clear: Trump lost support compared to 2016 and so the states swung on those margins.

You may not want to accept it, but that's how it is.
He actually gained support over 2016. I think his biggest problem was blaming every problem on cities and blue states which energized people who live in those areas to vote against him. There is a very strong distaste in blue areas for republicans in red areas who constantly shit on them when in virtually every state and nationally the heavily blue districts/states subsidize the more rural red districts/states financially. Trump really went all in on that narrative and it didn't work out well.
 
The states said it. The news are simply passing it on. This is cope.
The other thread is a mess of cope. The same people yelling at me that I'm not looking at the "evidence" are rating my posts dumb or mad at the internet because I posted the official election vote counts in response to someone claiming the numbers were fishy for X and Y reasons reflected in the official vote counts that turned out to actually not be reflected in those numbers at all. Then they went back to debating some shit they read on 4Chan. The public school system has failed.
 
The other thread is a mess of cope. The same people yelling at me that I'm not looking at the "evidence" are rating my posts dumb or mad at the internet because I posted the official election vote counts in response to someone claiming the numbers were fishy for X and Y reasons reflected in the official vote counts that turned out to actually not be reflected in those numbers at all. Then they went back to debating some shit they read on 4Chan. The public school system has failed.
Oh I've noticed. Some of them ARE finally starting to accept things I have personally pointed out days ago, and got shit on by the very same people. Its juicy. Like *chefs kiss*
 
Only around 30% of the US identifies as Republican. In that group support for Trump is incredibly high upwards of 90% and most of the rest probably still voted for him. The problem is you can't win an election with even 100% of 30% or same with the slightly higher % of self indentifying Democrats for that side.

He actually gained support over 2016. I think his biggest problem was blaming every problem on cities and blue states which energized people who live in those areas to vote against him. There is a very strong distaste in blue areas for republicans in red areas who constantly shit on them when in virtually every state and nationally the heavily blue districts/states subsidize the more rural red districts/states financially. Trump really went all in on that narrative and it didn't work out well.
That's not the case at all. Blue cities are the ones that are subsidized, the majority of people that are on welfare/food stamps etc are minorities that tend to live in blue cities.

People obfuscate this by saying that it's red states that get net transfer of payments, not realizing that Red states tend to have higher minority populations. People don't know that the info their getting isn't granular enough so they fall for the "blue states subsidize red states" stuff. It's more of a case of everyone subsidizing poor urban zones (and some white rural yes).
 
The right: Wait you really expect me to believe Biden, with virtually no campaigning, managed to induce record turnouts in four swing states, that was only called after the same four states paused counting, in an election where he did worse than Hillary across the board and while Trump increased his total number of votes?

The left: Conspiracy theory! Look at Guliani's hair dye! The news said Biden won! The news said it!
Can you do math?

Look at the vote counts in Georgia, which was just certified by a Republican Gov, and tell me who has more votes? PA and MI are set to certify their elections soon. Trump has dropped their lawsuit in Arizona. There is no realistic path to a Trump win.

Trump's currently flailing to try and convince GOP state legislatures to intervene in an unprecedented way, but it's had no success. The Supreme Court hasn't shown any indication they want to step in, and Trump's taken 30 L's in court already. His only two victories were very minor and made no impact on any race.

This election is over. Anyone with their eyes open can see that.
 
I didn't vote for Trump chum.

They figured it out two days after the election. Your repeated inability to address the points raised and constant fall back to insults instead of facts demonstrates exactly who is being fooled here. You're just happy to be fooled, because that's how fucking retarded leftists are these days.
Oh you are from Australia? I see.
Well to quote someone else on the subject.
Cool, your opinion is still worthless foreigners.
 
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The states said it. The news are simply passing it on. This is cope.
What? They were calling it for Biden before anything was finalized, slapping "The AP called the race for Biden" below every video and even entertained the fictional "office of the president-elect" in mass media and social media.

Do you think everyone around you has brain damage that we wouldn't remember what was being said/done less than two weeks ago?
 
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What? They were calling it for Biden before anything was finalized, slapping "The AP called the race for Biden" below every video and even entertained the fictional "office of the president-elect" in mass media and social media.

Do you think everyone around you has brain damage that we wouldn't remember what was being said/done less than two weeks ago?
The states called it then too. The Associated Press is just reporting what the states were telling them. Math shows who is going to win, so you can call the winner before they finalize every last vote.
 
The states called it then too. The Associated Press is just reporting what the states were telling them. Math shows who is going to win, so you can call the winner before they finalize every last vote.
No the states don't call races. They count and then certify the votes. The AP makes calls on states based on their analysis of the vote already in (which can be wrong).
 
Oh you are from Australia? I see.
Well to quote someone else on the subject.
Lol what a fucking surprise, big ups running his dumb fucking mouth about topics he knows nothing about. I'm not from Australia you worthless faggot. I live in Australia.

The states called it then too. The Associated Press is just reporting what the states were telling them. Math shows who is going to win, so you can call the winner before they finalize every last vote.
Honestly how can someone write this? I mean literally, someone this fucking retarded shouldn't be able to figure out a keyboard.
 
Lol what a fucking surprise, big ups running his dumb fucking mouth about topics he knows nothing about. I'm not from Australia you worthless faggot. I live in Australia.
What's the difference!
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The states called it then too.
No they didn't. Are you joking? States were still counting votes while mass media was calling Biden president-elect and saying he won. Not "seems to be" or "may become" or "is likely to be" but "is".
The Associated Press is just reporting what the states were telling them.
The Associated Press doesn't "call" elections and has no authority to, let alone by reporting them. You report on elections, you don't call them. You're trying to confuse basic English to not look stupid.
Math shows who is going to win, so you can call the winner before they finalize every last vote.
Yeah because the polls are never skewed in either direction until the end, just like they weren't in 2016. [Edit: This previous sentence was sarcasm. I am making that clear in case you are sincerely autistic with a memory deficiency.] "Projections" mean nothing until the end and, in case you've forgotten, it didn't end at all on election night. Or the night after that. Or after that. Votes were still being counted.

All mass media was saying Biden was president-elect and won, literally sighing in relief over his victory on national television.

Seriously, what is wrong with you?
 
No they didn't. Are you joking? States were still counting votes while mass media was calling Biden president-elect and saying he won. Not "seems to be" or "may become" or "is likely to be" but "is".

The Associated Press doesn't "call" elections and has no authority to, let alone by reporting them. You report on elections, you don't call them. You're trying to confuse basic English to not look stupid.

Yeah because the polls are never skewed in either direction until the end, just like they weren't in 2016. "Projections" mean nothing until the end and, in case you've forgotten, it didn't end at all on election night. Or the night after that. Or after that. Votes were still being counted.

All mass media was saying Biden was president-elect and won, literally sighing in relief over his victory on national television.

Seriously, what is wrong with you?
This is all cope. Trump lost.
 
That's not the case at all. Blue cities are the ones that are subsidized, the majority of people that are on welfare/food stamps etc are minorities that tend to live in blue cities.

People obfuscate this by saying that it's red states that get net transfer of payments, not realizing that Red states tend to have higher minority populations. People don't know that the info their getting isn't granular enough so they fall for the "blue states subsidize red states" stuff. It's more of a case of everyone subsidizing poor urban zones (and some white rural yes).
A higher percentage of people in rural areas and small towns use Federal assistance than in cities but more people live in cities. I think it's safe to say no one has much room to talk just the fact people do anyways has left a lot of animosity. I don't really take sides in a fight when both are scuffed.

So that isn't an argument I'm particularly interested in. I think it's convenient the people in charge want the urban poor to fight a culture war with the rural poor while they funnel money that could help both into tax dodging multinational corporations, bullshit wars, pet projects, etc. but this isn't really the thread for that.

To bring it back though the real tragedy in all this is neither one of the old coots we got to vote for has a solution. Trump waved his magic wand and the coal industry and factory jobs failed to come back and all the trade war has done so far is turn farmers into welfare cases and cut manufacturing margins. Biden isn't going to do much better and due to covid taking center stage he didn't even really have to pretend he was going to try.
 
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