Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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Here's something I just thought of. Is the disinfo so bad that it's wrapped around and you can actually tell the truth with near perfect accuracy by watching the news, but you just believe the opposite of whatever they say? Or is it just bad enough that the media is pure white noise and it's impossible to get any real meaning out of it?

Because if it's the former, Trump has a one hundred percent chance of winning. And I think it might be. In the past year the media has quite literally done nothing but lie. Everything they say is the opposite of the truth, no exceptions.
A lot people are banking on the saying that goes: "You can fool some people all of the time, and you can fool some people some of the time. But you can't fool all people all of the time."
 
Which is so fucked up, white people have done plenty of evil things but our sins are the sins of the human race, we're no different than any other group of human beings, humans period are capable of evil deeds, it's not anything white people have a monopoly on.

The fact that the buck is always passed onto white people instead of trying to make humanity as a whole face it's darkness is why things are getting so screwed up.
You're preaching to the choir here. Wanna see a progressives brain enter blue screen mode? Wait for a conversation about how white people are evil because of slavery (you won't have to wait long, trust me, it spontaneously happens at least 5 times a day for them) and then come at them with facts about how white Europeans bought slaves from other black people. They have this image in their head that white Europeans waged endless war throughout Africa and personally captured each and every slave that came to the New World by brute force. While plenty of slaves did come from raids, most of them were just straight up bought from black tribal leaders who had already captured and enslaved them among tribal infighting. There are still statues of some leaders in Africa who were directly responsible for selling slaves to european merchants. At this point in history pretty much every "group" has enslaved another at some point - it doesn't make it right or excuse it but it's hardly as though white people are the only racial group in history to commit atrocities.
I think so much of the easy brainwashing has to do with lack of real-life experience combined with a severe deficit in knowledge about history. How many of us in the US get comprehensive world history lessons in public school? Very few of us, I imagine, because to teach comprehensive world history about years 0AD-1750AD would involve teaching about religion, which is taboo.
Agreed. History is already dumbed down to a hilarious extent for one reason or another - ffs they're happy to tell kids what a colonizing super racist Columbus was but they still don't actually delve into the fact that Vikings were in America centuries before Columbus or any other Euro explorers. But it gets more insidious than that, they don't just avoid teaching certain subjects, they outright change the narrative when it fits them because the academic world largely identifies as "progressive" anyway and any idiot knows that you can change history if you can change the narrative. So you see kids coming out of high school fresh and moldable like play doh, not really having concrete political views outside of what they supported to maintain popularity in high school, and they go into this college environment where they're essentially told that only progressive people are smart, anything not in line with SJW/progressive thinking is outdated and based in bigotry and hate, and that the entire world would be better off it only it weren't for those meddling white people and their mangy desire to conquer humanity.
 
I can't believe they're already calling it.

It's barely 0030 Hours on the East Coast, and they're acting like the polls are closed and the votes have been tallied.

THIS is why I want Trump to win.

So that these faggots finally realize that just because they say something doesn't mean its reality.
 
You're preaching to the choir here. Wanna see a progressives brain enter blue screen mode? Wait for a conversation about how white people are evil because of slavery (you won't have to wait long, trust me, it spontaneously happens at least 5 times a day for them) and then come at them with facts about how white Europeans bought slaves from other black people. They have this image in their head that white Europeans waged endless war throughout Africa and personally captured each and every slave that came to the New World by brute force. While plenty of slaves did come from raids, most of them were just straight up bought from black tribal leaders who had already captured and enslaved them among tribal infighting. There are still statues of some leaders in Africa who were directly responsible for selling slaves to european merchants. At this point in history pretty much every "group" has enslaved another at some point - it doesn't make it right or excuse it but it's hardly as though white people are the only racial group in history to commit atrocities.

Agreed. History is already dumbed down to a hilarious extent for one reason or another - ffs they're happy to tell kids what a colonizing super racist Columbus was but they still don't actually delve into the fact that Vikings were in America centuries before Columbus or any other Euro explorers. But it gets more insidious than that, they don't just avoid teaching certain subjects, they outright change the narrative when it fits them because the academic world largely identifies as "progressive" anyway and any idiot knows that you can change history if you can change the narrative. So you see kids coming out of high school fresh and moldable like play doh, not really having concrete political views outside of what they supported to maintain popularity in high school, and they go into this college environment where they're essentially told that only progressive people are smart, anything not in line with SJW/progressive thinking is outdated and based in bigotry and hate, and that the entire world would be better off it only it weren't for those meddling white people and their mangy desire to conquer humanity.
I took AP US History in highschool and the Vikings and Dutch coming to the US as early as the 1500s/1600s (I don't remember) was touched on very briefly. By briefly I mean one slide.
 
False. During the Obama administration, enlisted were routinely punished for “disrespecting the commander in chief” on the basis of disrespecting a superior officer.
I know this from personal experience. You shut up and served.
That's because they were probably calling Obama a jogger or something on their personal account. I can publicly disagree with a president on certain things, weather I'm an E-4 or an O-9. You just have to be "respectful" and not be an idiot full of ad-homs or blatantly false accusations.
 
I can't believe they're already calling it.

It's barely 0030 Hours on the East Coast, and they're acting like the polls are closed and the votes have been tallied.

THIS is why I want Trump to win.

So that these faggots finally realize that just because they say something doesn't mean its reality.
They aren't actually calling it. That is just for one tiny town that always turns in their results first for media attention.
 
Given the choice between voting for:

Literal orange retard and his creepy son-in-law who actually runs things;
Or
Literal demented creepy old man who sniffs hair

I'd write in Ross Perott.
I'll do you one better.
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In hindsight I should have written in Ron Paul for VP. Goddammit.

I was originally going to vote for one of the third-party candidates, but after doing some research on their platforms, education, etc. realized they were all fucking awful. It's true--all politicians are the same.
and they'll be able to de legitimize any evidence of voter fraud by claiming it was for the greater good.
They can't throw away your votes if you don't actually vote for Trump.
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So alright, Biden wins or Trump wins. That's fine, I can deal with either. I think most of us can and will after some good shitposting over the next week or two.

What I can't deal with are the so-called progressives and extreme leftists that are hijacking movements and using them as cover to destroy civil society and subvert the United States government. These people are operating outside of the old left/right paradigm and I think a lot of our users from either end of the spectrum be it @Hollywood Hulk Hogan or @It's HK-47 can agree that these people represent a movement that isn't helping any aspect of our society. Worse, they are running the risk of resurrecting the skeleton of the extremist right if they have not already.

How then do we deal with this element and those that crop up in response? It would seem like trying to be heavy handed is not the right answer because that rarely works unless you literally go scorched earth, which many of our laws will prevent us from doing. Appeasement is also not an option. Many of these people have no interest in talking and see either candidate as an excuse to cause more problems. So what do we do? Again, I don't think there is going to be much disagreement on the face of it. Most Americans (I think?) don't like the rioting and the looting and it is also tragic to see some well-meaning movements taken advantage of by people that seem to be walking contradictions.

And what I mean by "walking contradictions" is that more times than not the individual that wants to tear down the system is either a major beneficiary of said system or completely unqualified to be making decisions themselves, let alone everyone else in the nation..

The tricky thing is that if you speak up against them, they'll use cancel culture to get you fired or they'll gather an antifa mob to smash your car.

We need more groups like the Proud Boys who aren't afraid to loudly oppose them, bonus points if they're filled with people who should score high on the oppression stack.
 
I can't believe they're already calling it.

It's barely 0030 Hours on the East Coast, and they're acting like the polls are closed and the votes have been tallied.

THIS is why I want Trump to win.

So that these faggots finally realize that just because they say something doesn't mean its reality.
Never gonna happen. I really don't expect us to officially "know" the results until at least 3-4 weeks from now, if even by then. 2016 was shitshow enough because while we had a very good idea on election night, there were several recounts and a lot of uncertainty coming from several important states such as WI and PA. And that was when they were caught unprepared after months of feeling assured that they would still be YASSSSS QWEENing even tonight. They are prepared now and know their plans of action, so even if the election night results indicate a blowout, expect there to be multiple recounts and possibly court challenges that drag this shitshow out at least a few weeks, possibly over a month. And even after that, if Trump wins, expect there to be another 4 years of nonstop impeachment attempts, conspiracy posting, media meltdowns, and quite possibly civil unrest at least until it gets so cold that any rioters turn into popsicles before they can even throw a brick.
 
That's because they were probably calling Obama a jogger or something on their personal account. I can publicly disagree with a president on certain things, weather I'm an E-4 or an O-9. You just have to be "respectful" and not be an idiot full of ad-homs or blatantly false accusations.
Nobody called Obama a jogger. You weren’t allowed to criticize him at all.
Again, first hand experience.
 
Good ol' Article 134 (for enlisted). Think it's article 88 for officers. Though 134 is way more vague and virtually anything can count under it if said in public.
Hell, I'd say that about 95% of the UCMJ is that way. Pull a Wings of Ree and smash your controller? There's a UCMJ article for that.
 
The tricky thing is that if you speak up against them, they'll use cancel culture to get you fired or they'll gather an antifa mob to smash your car.

We need more groups like the Proud Boys who aren't afraid to loudly oppose them, bonus points if they're filled with people who should score high on the oppression stack.
I volunteer as a 300 lb, non English speaking, carpel tunnel having, intersex, homeless, Aboriginal, down syndrome having, gay transgender, non binary, amputee.
 
They aren't actually calling it. That is just for one tiny town that always turns in their results first for media attention.
You don't want to signal you're a small town in NH that can be easily overrun. Lolbertarians have a history of trying to ruin small towns in NH, turning them into living embodiment of every lolbertarian internet sterotype. There is a Trans-Anarchist-Satanist running for sheriff as a republican (no one else was running in the primaries) in NH who's campaign slogan is "Fuck the Police!"
 
You don't want to signal you're a small town in NH that can be easily overrun. Lolbertarians have a history of trying to ruin small towns in NH, turning them into living embodiment of every lolbertarian internet sterotype. There is a Trans-Anarchist-Satanist running for sheriff as a republican (no one else was running in the primaries) in NH who's campaign slogan is "Fuck the Police!"

They've been doing this gimmick for 60 years. I think they'll be fine. It's also worth noting that this town seems to be a frozen wasteland during the only time people notice its existence.
 
I can't believe they're already calling it.

It's barely 0030 Hours on the East Coast, and they're acting like the polls are closed and the votes have been tallied.

THIS is why I want Trump to win.

So that these faggots finally realize that just because they say something doesn't mean its reality.
They don't care about reality, only THEIR reality.
The way they see it, a Trump win as justification for whatever retarded, probably violent, outbursts they have planned and any other schemes the bureaucrats set up.
 
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