Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%

  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%

  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%
  • Total voters
    2,140
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CWC-in-the-minds said:
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Saw this going around. Please tell all of your undocumented Latinx contacts about this horrible news from Cheeto Hitler.

#VoteHimOut #NoBordersNoPeace #AbolishICE
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Not sure if serious. Illegals shouldnt be anywhere near polling places to begin with. Is this one of those photoshop things just to get people riled up?
 
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JongleJingle said:
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Twitter as of now. A sign of things to come, or is it just buggery?
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I would love if the Pennsylvania Dems conjure up all this cheating with the absentee ballots for now not requiring a postmarked date or authentic signature and then after all those have been set aside, new Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett is the deciding vote that invalidates them, giving President Trump the state and the overall victory.
Just imagine the leftist pain and misery.
 
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So who's predicted to win? Guesses?
I'm seeing a lot of people on various sites saying Biden is winning by a couple percentages, thought that doesn't seem right, and found out that Trump ballots mysteriously disappear, people who voted for Trump have machines conveniently break down, and Trump voters get locked out for voting. Holy shit, the sheer unbridled spite.
 
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Austrian Conscript 1915 said:
Of course there will be butthurt from either side no matter who wins, but to expect the right to have as big as a chimpout as the left is a bit foolish. the majority of republicans are either really old, old or middle age, those people don't have the energy to riot. Furthermore, because of how old people use social media, they will likely stick to their friend groups and be butthurt, nothing like how young people will openly shout at their camera or tweet for the world to see. You may see some younger republicans do that if Boden wins.

I'm not saying that there won't be any right wing chimpout, but the one that they can produce will be nothing like the neurotic left's rioting
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Let's also be honest here, as big of a Trump fan people might have been around 2016, a lot of people didn't expect him to win. People were obsessed with him winning and wanted him to win, but I'll tell you right now that a lot of people went to bed that night without any hope or expecting some shenanigans. I think a lot of people expected "the system" to somehow reject this despite popular approval.
Which is to say: despite what people want to claim about cults of personality and obsessives and shit like that, Trump fans are more realistic.

You know what Qanon is? A giant meta-cope, it's the most diehard Trump fans saying for 4 years that the entire system is against him and he is fighting an uphill battle. As much as I disregard Qanon shit, people must recognize that the overall narrative there is that there's an organized effort against Trump, whereas Democrats still somehow believe everyone loves Hillary and Obama. The most deluded and conspiratorial Trump fans are somehow more pragmatic and grounded than Hillary fans, let that sink in.

I'll tell you one thing, if Biden wins Trump fans won't be out there saying we need to rewrite the constitution and put half of America in internment camps. If anyone thinks the Left and Right are equal here, they literally have not been paying attention for 4 straight years.
 
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Ad Lib Moaning said:
So who's predicted to win? Guesses?
I'm seeing a lot of people on various sites saying Biden is winning by a couple percentages, thought that doesn't seem right, and found out that Trump ballots mysteriously disappear, machines conveniently break down, and Trump voters get locked out for voting. Holy shit, the sheer unbridled spite.
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Biden probably needs to win by 4+% to actually win the EC
 
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Rekkington said:
Is this copypasta or do we actually have an honest to goodness autistic fag here?
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Last September, a man with the screen name ‘Rekkington’ wrote an unsettling post on the online forum Kiwifarms. In it, he recounted his long history of rejection by women. In his 34 years, he said, the closest thing to a relationship he had achieved had lasted for only a couple of months in high school. “I’ve given up on the idea of ever finding a ‘significant other,’” he wrote. He told the other users that he had promised himself if he was still without a partner when he turned 40, he would either kill himself or be surgically castrated. “No, I’m not joking,” he added.

Rekkington titled his post “Testimony of an Incel with Autistic Spectrum Syndrome.” The term ‘incel’ is short for ‘involuntary celibate,’ and it has come to be associated with online communities of men who have lost any hope of finding a partner in the age of dating apps. The men on these sites obsess over their looks, exchange edgy memes and mine psychological studies for proof that the dating universe is viciously tilted against average-looking men. They sometimes call women ‘sluts’ or ‘whores’ but mostly refer to them as ‘femoids,’ ‘foids’ or even ‘female humanoid organisms’ — in other words, not quite human.

Rekkington is, in fact, a young man called Álvaro. (He declined to provide his last name because of the stigma of the incel label and the potential for it to harm his work prospects.) He wrote in the forum that he did not “condone in any way the ideas and abhorrent behavior of incels,” but he identified as one anyway. And as the title of his post indicated, he also identified as autistic: “My [autism] is pretty mild when compared to more serious cases, yet it’s still bad enough that my social skills are severely impaired.” Álvaro lives in South America, and in a photo he shared of himself, he has short, dark hair, brown eyes and a stippling of beard. He has struggled with insomnia, depression and anger issues. And in 2010, he was prescribed antipsychotic and antidepressant medications following a schizophrenia diagnosis, which he later came to believe was incorrect. Two years ago, another doctor told him he had schizoaffective disorder. Finally, last year, a psychiatrist diagnosed him with autism, which he says jibes better with his life experience.

Apart from his limited social skills, Álvaro says his short stature — he is 5 feet 3 inches tall — has been a significant impediment to his finding a partner or even a temporary dalliance. “I am invisible to women,” he says. When he went back to college in 2014 to pursue a degree in translation, for example, he developed a crush on a classmate, but he says the young woman told him there was no way she could be attracted to him because of his height. “I decided to end the friendship because it was doing me more harm than good,” he says.

Álvaro first heard the term ‘incel’ last year, when he was watching a video that mentioned Elliot Rodger. In 2014, Rodger killed 16 people and injured 14 others near a university campus in Isla Vista, California, before killing himself. Rodger — whose mother reportedly described him as a “high-functioning autistic child” in divorce papers — left behind a widely shared manifesto blaming women for his actions. Álvaro was horrified by Rodger, but he was curious about what it meant to be an incel: Was he one?

He began to research incels on Google and found their misogyny off-putting. “Those people are deluded,” he says. At the same time, he was becoming more and more alienated from women, whom he saw as speaking of body positivity and the tyranny of beauty standards, and yet demanding tall, manly partners. The isolation began to take its toll: “It’s psychologically and emotionally damaging to not have the connection with another person.” Álvaro began to seek answers on Reddit.

Incels can be found pretty much anywhere on the internet that young men congregate: playing online games, trolling the comments threads of news articles and videos, and on social-media sites such as Reddit and 4Chan. One of the most popular incel forums, the braincels subreddit, had more than 16,000 followers as of April 2018. The forum was banned last year for “posting content that harasses or bullies” people, leading users to scatter to other websites, including the now-defunct braincels.org, “a place for involuntary celibates to joke around, get support, shitpost, find friends and relax;” yourenotalone.co, “a non-violent, gender-inclusive support group for involuntary celibates and allies;” and incels.co — women are “banned on sight, no exceptions.”

These forums tend to attract a disproportionate number of autistic men. In an October 2019 user poll on the website kiwifarms.net, for instance, roughly one in four of the 550 respondents said they have autism. Certain traits of autistic people — a heightened response to perceived slights, a strong sense of social justice and difficulty understanding what others are thinking and feeling — may make them amenable to extreme views, says Clare Allely, associate professor of forensic psychology at the University of Salford in Manchester in the United Kingdom. The only social outlets for some autistic men are the internet’s anonymous echo chambers, so their exposure to toxic chatter may be extensive, she says. “It’s like a conduit to the outside world,” Allely says. “It’s no small wonder that they end up in all these forums and sites.”

These sites are breeding grounds for hateful views, and spending time on them may be increasing these men’s detachment, diverting them from at least trying to expand their real-world social lives, she says. Some of the views may even encourage aggression or self-harm. Incels may refer to a happy couple in public as ‘suicide fuel.’ Another now-banned subreddit — the incelgraveyard — memorialized those who killed themselves. In the incels.co survey, two-thirds of the respondents said they had considered suicide, though it is unclear to what extent their time commiserating online contributed to these thoughts.

Researchers are still trying to get a handle on the degree to which men with autism are influenced by the messages on these sites. They are also trying to determine what might attract autistic men to the extremist groups on the sites — with the hope of preventing or mitigating the attraction. “We’re all kind of anxious,” says Rachel Loftin, a clinical psychologist in Chicago, Illinois, who specializes in autism. “It’s a scary area to start to investigate.”
 
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Spoonge said:
Honestly the best way to do it. If you're arguing with someone that has no power over you don't try and play nice. Don't do that 'you have some good points and I respect you but look at my carefully worded rebuttal' crap. Because if they're true believers they'll just ignore, deflect and deny you.
Be blunt. Tear them apart. They call you racist? Accept it and tell them to go fuck themselves.
You can't reason with a fanatic. We're past the point of constructive debate with these people.
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No difference between debating SJWs and Wokes vs Fundies. They believe that god created all human equal. It doesn't matter how much facts you provide. They refuse to change their mind because it goes against their religion. The only way to win is to reframe their arguments QUICK and then counter-attack: "okay so you're a science denier. You think DNA is a social construct. Yes or No. Do you acknowledge that men and women are not equal? Whites and blacks are not equal? DNA is real. Sexual dimorphism is real. etc.) Confidence is key, people don't join the side that is losing.
 
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TheShedCollector said:
Each person gets 1 vote for every $1k they pay in tax. If you aren't paying into the system you have no right to have a say in how its run.
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Yes, let's make votes literally a thing you can buy, this is a solid plan and won't at all heavily advantage special interest groups.
 
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