Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%

  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%

  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%
  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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News orgs call shit early by using exit polls. They have people standing around outside polling places and asking people who they voted for, then they extrapolate that to call states early. If the state has public info on mail-in ballots, they can use that too. That's why they're calling VA early for Biden. Sometimes they're wrong, but it's rare for something to flip. NYT has historically been pretty conservative on calling states early.
 
StraightShooter2 said:
In a "pure" democracy, everything would be done by referendum or the will of the "mob"; the governments of America and other 1st world countries which were inspired by it (e.x. Britain and the Commonwealth nations) didn't want "mob rule" or direct democracy, they wanted Representatives, Judges, and formal legislation deciding the country for the "people" - the only role the people were ever intended to play was in choosing the elected representatives, filing constitutional lawsuits, and so forth.

(Even ancient "democracy" which was its inspiration was limited only to aristocracts; slaves and women couldn't participate directly; today elected representatives, judges, etc may not "inherit" their power, as in old, aristorcratic forms of government, but they tend to be more educated, articulate, intelligent, etc than the "general public" or mob, and family, of course still does play an indirect role in it.).

An actual "direct democracy" would be like Escape from New York, the worst form of government there is alongside tyranny.
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Yeah I know all that dude. What I'm disagreeing with is your definition of democracy. You shifted from saying the United States was never supposed to be a democracy to now saying it was never supposed to be a "pure democracy". Which in other words you're saying the United States is an indirect democracy, which is still a democracy.

We're just arguing semantics and definitions here.
 
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Salubrious said:
Early voting favors the Democrats. Even Kentucky started blue.

I'm telling you, nothing in the next 3 hours matters. You are going to get weird results.
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Yeah, I remember 2016, sitting there all evening with Florida glowing blue, feeling good that Orange Man Bad wasn't going to win after all--and then BAM! it flipped to red, and stayed that way.

I was utterly horrified, that night, and spent the next two years as a full-on TDS sufferer. But it's amazing how much can change in four years. Tonight, when Florida flips to red and stays there, I am going to laugh so fucking hard.
 
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break these cuffs said:
There was someone who had an interactive one with counties in 2016. It's important to if you're following along while it happens. Trump winning Florida by a narrow margin doesn't mean a damn thing if Miami-Dade hasn't submitted their results for instance.
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Miami-Dade has and Trump is down 10. Florida is Trumps. Which most likely means 4 MORE YEARS. Last 12/13 elections he who wins Florida wins the presidency. If Trump wins Florida(NYT has called it for him) that most likely means he wins all those midwest states that are toss ups due to the demographics of all the old farts who move to Florida for retirement.
 
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The Cum Consumer said:
You know, Joe Biden telling his voting base that COVID-19 is a massive killer and that they have to stay at home at all costs probably wasn't the smartest move.
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I don't think anyone healthy actually believes that when it comes to themselves. They just like to pretend to for attention, power over others, a sense of superiority, and to get out of doing things they don't want to.
 
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A Humble Ewok said:
If Miami-Dade is only 10% down, that's good news. Their main strategy this year was not to win the county outright, but pull enough votes to impact the final total. Only thing concerning me is Tampa area counties.
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It looks like Trump is ahead in Orlando. Tampa tends to vote a lot like Orlando, don’t they?
 
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