Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

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Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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TBH, they're quite civil if you aren't constantly sperging out at them.
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No, there is still no actual evidence. A stupid scatter graph that doesn't even explain anything that we didn't already know was going to happen isn't evidence.
Your inability to understand statistics does not invalidate the statistics. I gave you ample red flags that, when viewed in totality, merit thorough review. Laugh all you want at the expected outcome, laugh when the case falls on its face, laugh when Trump gets bounced out of the White House onto his spray-tanned ass, but dismissing substantive circumstantial evidence as "no evidence" before the trails (and therefore discovery) take place only means we laugh at you.
 
Andrew is regularly pulling the "Look at all these dumb right wingers hahaha" then, whenever it's mentioned that people on the other side of the aisle do the same, he retreats with "there's dumb people on both sides" before going off again.
I suppose the dumb right-wingers are more in evidence in this thread. If you want to make fun of some dumb left-wingers with me, meet me in the Kelly Lenza thread.
 
To keep the rape allegory, let's say if you have a history of rape, have been videotaped dragging a passed out girl into a room, have been caught buying roofies, then it's not exactly zero evidence, is it? I'd say it warrants an investigation.
See how my comparison had direct examples and yours is completely nebulus

If the evidence of fraud is so copious and widespread and well documented then present it, but as far as I can tell it only amounts to "our watchers weren't as close as we wanted them to be"
 
See how my comparison had direct examples and yours is completely nebulus

If the evidence of fraud is so copious and widespread and well documented then present it, but as far as I can tell it only amounts to "our watchers weren't as close as we wanted them to be"
Here, have a read. Enough of this is questionable to the point of requiring an investigation. If you honestly believe your preferred candidate did not cheat, then you too should be asking for an investigation to clear up all the rumors and allegations.

 
Lefties still want to pack the court it seems.
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I suppose the dumb right-wingers are more in evidence in this thread. If you want to make fun of some dumb left-wingers with me, meet me in the Kelly Lenza thread.
I think there's plenty of evidence of both in this thread. Though morbid curiosity will make me visit now.

The point is that I think it's silly to completely dismiss any indication of voter fraud, especially since it's likely Biden would have won regardless. Then again, I honestly think there hasn't been a 'clean' election since even before the 2000s. The only reason this election is especially egregious is not because of Trump or Biden, but because things are easier to check, catch, and the masses have an actual vested interest in looking for shit now that the media has been cast in such extreme doubt. Regardless of their intent (because nobody is looking for evidence without ulterior motive), things have been found that are suspicious, if not damning. The aggressive resistance to an audit or recount, something that may happen regardless due to the closeness of the votes, is what comes off as insane to me.

Actual sperging is perpetual. Once again, I'm very positive Biden will be president come January. Despite that, many of his supporters are still causing a ruckus because he's not "winning hard enough" as I mentioned earlier. We get to keep that with the added bonus of righties taking a turn at #NotMyPresident. My issue is just the more serious facet of things. We shouldn't ignore suspicious shenanigans just because it doesn't align with what we want to happen. If the whole Epstein debacle was suspect as fuck, why wouldn't these little weird happenstances? Maybe it's a coincidence. Maybe it's not. Who does it kill to check?
 
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Your inability to understand statistics does not invalidate the statistics. I gave you ample red flags that, when viewed in totality, merit thorough review. Laugh all you want at the expected outcome, laugh when the case falls on its face, laugh when Trump gets bounced out of the White House onto his spray-tanned ass, but dismissing substantive circumstantial evidence as "no evidence" before the trails (and therefore discovery) take place only means we laugh at you.
I know stats pretty well, probably far better than you do.

The "evidence" you linked to doesn't take into account that the president told his supporters to not vote by mail and that they couldn't start vote by mail votes in the states he listed until election day. They also were bigger cities, which also swing more Democrat. Stats are easy to manipulate and he manipulated them enough to fool people like you
 
Though morbid curiosity will make me visit now.
You really ought to. And morbid curiosity is just the right attitude to bring.
The point is that I think it's silly to completely dismiss any indication of voter fraud, especially since it's likely Biden would have won regardless. Then again, I honestly think there hasn't been a 'clean' election since even before the 2000s. The only reason this election is especially egregious is not because of Trump or Biden, but because things are easier to check, catch, and the masses have an actual vested interest in looking for shit now that the media has been cast in such extreme doubt. Regardless of their intent (because nobody is looking for evidence without ulterior motive), things have been found that are suspicious, if not damning. The aggressive resistance to an audit or recount, something that may happen regardless due to the closeness of the votes, is what comes off as insane to me.

Actual sperging is perpetual. I'm very positive Biden will be president come January. Despite that, many of his supporters are still causing a ruckus because he's not "winning hard enough" as I mentioned earlier. We get to keep that with the added bonus of righties taking a turn at #NotMyPresident. My issue is just the more serious facet of things. We shouldn't ignore suspicious shenanigans just because it doesn't align with what we want to happen. If the whole Epstein debacle was suspect as fuck, why wouldn't these little weird happenstances? Maybe it's a coincidence. Maybe it's not. Who does it kill to check?
I agree that anyone who thinks audits or recounts (or any other procedures that would normally be allowed) should be disallowed is being foolish. But I think many people are reacting negatively not to the idea of audits, recounts etc. per se, but to the fact that they're clearly being brought in bad faith by a president who would rather undermine the perceived integrity of American democracy than admit that he actually lost an election (against a doddering old man, no less).

Frankly, I can understand why Biden supporters would be upset that their candidate managed such a slim victory over someone like Trump.
 
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I killed myself in 2016 after Jeb lost the nomination and never looked back. I live on the precipice of life and death as the dark powers of Jeb tie me to the physical world, unable to die until he finally ascends to his rightful place.
The quintessential Biden supporter. Desperate to vote Jeb but forced to vote Kamala. Tragic.
 
then how do you explain orange hitler getting 2 million more votes than 2008 obama who was incredibly popular at the time?
More voters in general. Especially with the number of mail-in ballots due to covid (thus making voting easier).

If Jeb had been running, he'd have gotten 140 million votes (at least)
 
See how my comparison had direct examples and yours is completely nebulus

If the evidence of fraud is so copious and widespread and well documented then present it, but as far as I can tell it only amounts to "our watchers weren't as close as we wanted them to be"

I listed an overview of some evidence here:
I attended this Stop the Steal rally
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At the start, the few cops that had been hanging around in this fairly large throng of people:
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were mostly guarding the entrance to the RNC.
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About an hour in Antifa finally did show up. There were perhaps a dozen of them. The police immediately intervened by blocking traffic with their vehicles (couldn't find a good shot) and creating a wall between Antifa and us with their bodies.
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There was no physical violence in the 3 hours I was there.

There might be some isolated incidents at the march on Saturday (which I'll also be going to) but I don't expect widespread bloodshed. Fingers crossed for legitimate peaceful protests, of course.



The Master Death File contains everyone with a SSN that's died, and is also a metal as fuck name for a government document. Among the info it contains per record: SSN, name, last living zipcode, birthdate, death date. It's rare but not unheard of for living people to accidentally be placed on the list at some point or another. As my own ballpark estimate, there's probably been something like 100k living people that have been placed there accidentally. I know that 41k living people were scrubbed from the list between 2011 and 2013.

With that background information out of the way, anyone that comes up on that list and also cast a ballot this year is very likely actually dead. It's very hard to do normal daily business when the government thinks you're dead. Besides, you have to match more than just the state and name to track your ballot. Here's Michigan's:
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How many living people do you think have the exact same information in 5 different fields as their dead doppelganger?

Is it possible this is all an innocent oopsie? Maybe. When you get people manually plugging random dead citizens in and finding many votes cast it seems to be more than mere coincidence.
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This is a very good, very long thread breaking down the ratio of votes versus the time their were reported. It's not proof of fraud but it does suggest fraud, especially with his analysis of multiple states were no fraud is alleged -

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before turning to the contested states. I'll just do Wisconsin here, but check out his thread for a lot more.
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I have real concerns about the Biden-Harris would-be administration but I'm okay with Trump losing so long as it's an organic loss. The massive censorship of people daring to question the outcome after the people who allegedly rigged the process spent four years bellowing "not my president!" to thunderous applause inside their echo chambers makes me really question the "loss", however, especially when the same outlets that we know to have went full-tilt TDS have previously warned about ballot fraud.
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There's also the fact that Biden simply isn't president-elect yet. The results aren't certified, nor can they be while outstanding allegations exist.

Words mean things.
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I know stats pretty well, probably far better than you do.

The "evidence" you linked to doesn't take into account that the president told his supporters to not vote by mail and that they couldn't start vote by mail votes in the states he listed until election day. They also were bigger cities, which also swing more Democrat. Stats are easy to manipulate and he manipulated them enough to fool people like you
Manipulate this, Statboy.

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You really ought to. And morbid curiosity is just the right attitude to bring.

I agree that anyone who thinks audits or recounts (or any other procedures that would normally be allowed) should be disallowed is being foolish. But I think many people are reacting negatively not to the idea of audits, recounts etc. per se, but to the fact that they're clearly being brought in bad faith by a president who would rather undermine the perceived integrity of American democracy than admit that he actually lost an election (against a doddering old man, no less).

Frankly, I can understand why Biden supporters would be upset that their candidate managed such a slim victory over someone like Trump.
I can understand why the intent can be alienating or perceived as hostile since, with how Trump presented it, the motive definitely is hostile. That being said, I don't feel like it changes what should happen. A man who saves a drowning girl for little more than reward and fame still saved a girl, regardless of his impure intent.

Ultimately with how you responded here, I may have jumped the gun in assuming your position and I do apologize. We seem to agree that the natural legal order should take it's course and some things should be looked at and I won't deny you the fact that Trump definitely is acting less than classy about the whole shtick.

Trump isn't as evil as he's portrayed though and Biden is hardly the height of purity. Honestly, this election is yet another game of lesser of two evils. From an observer's standpoint, I'm not surprised two unlikable politicians have caused a nearly-even split, but that's just opinion now.
 
I know stats pretty well, probably far better than you do.

The "evidence" you linked to doesn't take into account that the president told his supporters to not vote by mail and that they couldn't start vote by mail votes in the states he listed until election day. They also were bigger cities, which also swing more Democrat. Stats are easy to manipulate and he manipulated them enough to fool people like you
Have you considered that maybe Donald got in the White House due to fraud and most elections before that were possibly also fraudulent?
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