Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[Big Miss Steak]

Most of my relatives are women. My family is very devout Southern Baptist and most of my relatives have stuck to those Protestant values. Most of my female relatives waited until marriage to have sex, and married churchgoing, Christian men. They all found out later that their husbands had lied about their previous sexual experiences and in some cases were really not even Christians. All of these "spiritual heads" of the household are literally dragged to church on Sundays by their wives. There's only one male relative close to me in age and he's a violent alcoholic and I suspect porn addict who is one bad day away from trooning out or committing familicide. I don't have a single female relative who's husband didn't commit some sort of infidelity at some point (ranging from sexting prior partners to having months-long affairs with co-workers). They have all been telling me for years that marriage is overrated and if I ever do get married, I should get a prenup. When your southern baptist grandmothers and aunts are telling you to stay single or get a prenup, you know it's fucked.

 

[Pickman's Modeling Agency]

When your southern baptist grandmothers and aunts are telling you to stay single or get a prenup, you know it's fucked.

Men talk about women being "brainwashed" by feminists, not realizing that the "feminists" they froth at are often just... our mothers and grandmothers and aunts and sisters and cousins telling it like it is. Quite a lot of the older women I speak to don't call themselves feminist, and yet they have a whole bunch of experience that has taught them not to leave your fate in the hands of a man.

 

[YWNBAM]

Do any of you ladies ever feel as if you aren't allowed within male dominated spaces or hobbies without feeling like a poser, even if you've been in the hobby space for long/arent planning on being a tourist?

The more I've spent time in male-dominated fandom spaces, the more I've gotten the impression that men can also be seriously infected with nlog syndrome. Given their typically highly competitive nature and vocal autism, they may be even worse off than their female counterparts.

Think about it. The boys vs girls meme really is a corrupted copy of those old-ass comics geeky teenage deviantart gals did about themselves and normies. The (other) girls are boring / vain / simple, but here comes our spesshul quirky dude insert who does crazy stuff with "his boys". He is a true freethinker and a fan amongst the thoughtless thots. Oh Mr Chad, why don't you ever notice him? Come on, stop banging that stupid foid and pay attention to him. Bros over hoes!

Men will never beat the spiritual homosexual accusations. All their male bonding and their lame misogynistic meme ploys to deal with yet another, one billionth masculinity crisis are so incredibly gay it makes me want to puke rainbows. Maybe all male friendships would be far less likely to be interpreted as romantic by low-life fujoshits if the guys weren't so obsessed with each other while the supposedly important women in their lives are always stock images that are way too boring and uncool for them. The hetero romance is dead, and moids have killed it with their vanity.

 

[Grimoire Canthari]

Listened to my boss commisserate with a coworker over failed previous marriages. I knew my boss divorced her first husband who did fuckall for her and the kids but I didn't know the slob cheated on her prior to and during the marriage on top of it. Boss's eldest wants nothing to do with the dad after he passed up attending his son's induction into the Marines so he could fuck a whore. And apparently he was complaining to my boss on the phone why no one told him he was a grandfather (eldest has 5 month old twins with his wife).

 

[BunchaBabyDucks]

I’ve started to enjoy watching the Plummeting Birthrates thread in Happenings.
It’s really entertaining watching them list actual reasons why the birthrate is in the shitter and still loop back around to blaming ‘Those DAMN FOID WHORES’. It’s actually pathetic.

 

[keke]

This isn’t new and is just a double down of policy already in place. But in case anyone was still mistaken, ‘rehabilitation’ at all costs (including explicitly de-facto legalising rape for under 18s, but also under 25s,) is still ago in Scotland. Don’t be fooled, this exists in other countries including the US, varying in scale. Judges will say similar sentiments in their rulings. And of course it’s a huge problem/practiced in England & the rest of the UK, too. Why the fuck liberalism has to mean rapists get their hand held all the way to their therapy appointment and no jail time, meanwhile the victims life is forever changes, idfk.

Poor little rapist scrotes. They did it because they need therapy! As if forcing someone down and forcibly penetrating them until they orgasm isn’t a CLEAR motivation. Sorry to be vulgar but this is actually what men believe. That it’s they’re just accidental rapists. We can never know why they do it. Fuck off.

 

[Galaxolotl]

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This isn’t new and is just a double down of policy already in place. But in case anyone was still mistaken, ‘rehabilitation’ at all costs (including explicitly de-facto legalising rape for under 18s, but also under 25s,) is still ago in Scotland. Don’t be fooled, this exists in other countries including the US on a smaller scale. Judges will say similar sentiments in their rulings. And of course it’s a huge problem/practiced in England & the rest of the UK, too. Why the fuck liberalism has to mean rapists get their hand held all the way to their therapy appointment and no jail time, meanwhile the victims life is forever changes, idfk.

Poor little rapist scrotes. They did it because they need therapy! As if forcing someone down and forcibly penetrating them until they orgasm isn’t a CLEAR motivation. Sorry to be vulgar but this is actually what men believe. That it’s they’re just accidental rapists. We can never know why they do it. Fuck off.

Oh and if the victim, child or adult get impregnated, she is then forced to carry the rape spawn to term and hailed as a hero by prolife retards and abandoned with said rape spawn after the shininess of "muh save da baybees" wears off. They are slowly allowing men to get away with rape and forced impregnation, which is one of the most dysgenic and antisocial shit I have ever seen. Rightoid redpill assholes and incels even hail this as a victory to fix the birthrate, like yeah traumatized young girls and women in poor dysfunctional settings with epigenetic timebombs that will grow up to rape another generation is a sure fix for the fertility rate. God I hate moids so much.

https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/44/2/713/753089?login=false

 

[Inside your walls]

I’ve started to enjoy watching the Plummeting Birthrates thread in Happenings.
It’s really entertaining watching them list actual reasons why the birthrate is in the shitter and still loop back around to blaming ‘Those DAMN FOID WHORES’. It’s actually pathetic.

Yesterday I've seen a clip of Vaush discussing this topic. His genius solution to declining birth rates is unironically opening "breeding camps" and making motherhood/child rearing a job (as if it's not 24/7 payless job already for women)
Yep you heard that right!

He then proceeded to get upset when even his biggest dickriders in his chat pointed out that the "breeding camps" solution he offered was literally a thing Nazis have done (often with underage teenagers too) in hopes of
creating more ubermensches.


At this point I am at the opinion that men should shut up about birth rates and not even be allowed to voice their opinion on this whole topic due to being so mentally stunted whenever the "birth decline" discourse gets brought up, because it always just so happens that both leftie and rightoid men have the same solution for this issue always is at the expense of women/women suffering through their freedom being limited and their rights being restricted. You never ever see either of these men offer solutions that doesn't include women suffering, in fact they are openly turning down any solution that doesn't include that and try to shame women's reasons for not wanting children.

Better maternity leave for mothers? Better and safer health care for mothers? Entitled and unrealistic, but state mandated brides and DEI for men is reasonable though!

Good daycares for children where mothers can drop off children? Silly foids, why do you need daycare when you can just out of nowhere dump that child at the grandparents? Yeah meemaw might had other plans, maybe wanted to go to a bingo gathering with her besties and her joint might break any second but she loooooooves children so she will be fine lol! Or better yet! You can just take care of the child because there's nothing better than being a mother, but also be prepared to be called a helicopter mom or smothering mother because the only personality you're allowed to have is being a mom, if you even try to take a break or day off to focus on yourself you'll get called neglectful/selfish and be berated how now that you're a mother you must sacrifice the things you found enjoyment and day offs but ignore your husband whose the same age as you being allowed to goof around with his male co-workers at the bars and indulge in his fratbro side he never grew out of after long day of playing with excel spreadsheets because when the word "sacrifice" gets brought up in these topics, it's 99% of the time discussing how a woman should sacrifice herself and her identity for the sake of her family.

Better pay that's sustainable and able to be enough for child and child raising? Again stalker foid, that's being entitled! You should be content with living in poverty because men, especially middle class and higher have a massive boner for it and view poverty as organic and mystical way of living similarly to the libshit hippies from 70s to late 90s had a romanticized view of Buddhism and Hinduism thanks to the New Age movement.

Men fixing their own problems and treating women with humanity instead of using women as therapy tools, emotional sponges and
just somebody to extend their "legacy" while they go off being spiritual homosexuals with other men? That's too hard!

Don't even get me started about men who constantly cry about how the current system is so dogshit and how nothing is affordable, but still
wanting women to sacrifice themselves by giving birth to the children and then sacrifice those children to the meat grinder because
"We will need more people/workers".

 

[CorvidFag]

Oh and if the victim, child or adult get impregnated, she is then forced to carry the rape spawn to term and hailed as a hero by prolife retards and abandoned with said rape spawn after the shininess of "muh save da baybees" wears off. They are slowly allowing men to get away with rape and forced impregnation, which is one of the most dysgenic and antisocial shit I have ever seen. Rightoid redpill assholes and incels even hail this as a victory to fix the birthrate, like yeah traumatized young girls and women in poor dysfunctional settings with epigenetic timebombs that will grow up to rape another generation is a sure fix for the fertility rate. God I hate moids so much.

https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/44/2/713/753089?login=false

Don’t forget, they’ll also call the victim a whore and a shitty single mother, because, god forbid, she didn’t marry her rapist.

Better maternity leave for mothers? Better and safer health care for mothers? Entitled and unrealistic, but state mandated brides and DEI for men is reasonable though!

Here’s your $5k! That’s what you, the taxpayer, deserve! We have no idea what families would actually need support with!

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Men talk about women being "brainwashed" by feminists, not realizing that the "feminists" they froth at are often just... our mothers and grandmothers and aunts and sisters and cousins telling it like it is. Quite a lot of the older women I speak to don't call themselves feminist, and yet they have a whole bunch of experience that has taught them not to leave your fate in the hands of a man.

My mother would die before calling herself a feminist. She married a very good man (my dad, I mean) over 60 years ago. And though they dated seriously starting in high school, she did not feel devasted when they once had a breakup: her perspective was - fuck him (NOT her words, lol, never) if he wants to take out [some other girl]). He had to court/ win her back after that. Which, to his credit and their lasting happiness, he did.

But despite finding a good one early, she is not dumb and is absolutely no-nonsense about trivial men, addicted men, negligent men, child-men, going-nowhere men, etc. And she'd absolutely say (and has said) you don't need 'em, and get a prenup. And that's from within a framework she ascribes to that (soft, not fundie-style) believes that men should head the household. (Lol, my dad might disagree that she cedes anything...).

That said: My mother is the classic behind-the-scenes influencer/ powerful force - though she'd deny it; to her she just uses common sense. And they both agree that both of their views matter and count - must be considered.

It works bc a) my dad is a good and responsible man with the good of the family foremost in mind, b) he factors in her opinion even on things they've agreed are his areas of decisionmaking - heavily - and would never act in spite or out of some male superiority retardation, and c) she went out and earned her own "pin money" (more than that, but she turned down opportunities for "career" jobs) when kids were old enough and when she wanted some independence for certain things for her personal interests or priorities (and things to benefit her children and grandchildren).

Absolutely CRAZY (I'm being tongue-in-cheek) that there has never been "men do" "women do" friction or resentment or sex-based finger-pointing in their marriage. Disagreements at times, of course, but not category-based friction. Because that shit doesn't matter. And because neither of them walks around with a chip on their shoulder about macro concepts. And here they are 60 years later. They deal with one another as full human people.

If my parents were present-day young people, the way things would sort day-to-day would be different, because financial and domestic survival requires different things now than it did 60 years ago. But they would both still have to be good and responsible; they would both still have to have a strong voice in their joint path and choices; and they would both still have to be EVENLY devoted to the family, household, and marriage - whatever roles in those each played. Because long successful relationships require that both people not act like tiny dictators. The minute one person arrogates to themselves the "right" to make the rules or decide autonomously for everyone, the whole enterprise is corrupted - and walking into relationships with that view ensures death. I'm talking to you, "based" "trad" guys and guys who doom & gloom their way past opportunity bc they can't let go of wrongheaded ideas about "a woman's place...."

If my dad had believed that he could - or wanted to - act like a despot just because he earned the money or bc he devalued what my mom did in the family/ home, or if he had refused to "allow" her to go out and earn in the way that she wanted, I don't know what she'd have done, but she'd have been perfectly correct to leave him. And at the same time, if she'd abused her role similarly, he'd have had every moral right to do the same.

None of this shit works if you don't respect one another as people. The current vogue of adopting or endorsing some retarded unnuanced and one-dimensional idea of retro ("trad") roles, and asserting misunderstood or self-benefiting ideas about "biological imperatives" while dismissing both individual whole-personhood and individual differences and strengths among people, is callow and superficial, and it is leading to retarded perspectives and choices that will inevitably result in unhappiness and loneliness.

 

[𝕺𝖑' 𝕯𝖎𝖗𝖙𝖞 𝕱𝖆𝖙𝖘𝖔]

Hello, thank you for signing up for women's history facts. In the 1800s and early part of the 20th century, smoking was considered a dirty habit and smoking by women was seriously frowned upon by society. As the century progressed so did women's desire for equality. The suffrage movement gave many women a sense of entitlement and freedom and the tobacco industry took advantage of that to market cigarettes as a way to stick it to the patriarchy. They called them "Torches of Freedom"and had a whole marketing campaign to encourage women to smoke by exploiting women's aspirations for a better life during the early twentieth century first-wave feminism in the United States. The term was first used by psychoanalyst A. A. Brill when describing the natural desire for women to smoke and was used by Edward Bernays to encourage women to smoke in public despite social taboos. Cigarettes were described as symbols of emancipation and equality with men.

tl;dr men hijacked feminism to get women to smoke more.

They didn't even try to hide it.

 

[Chappell's Lost Earring]

whereas "women's spaces" are almost exclusively

• focused on matters specific to women, or
• where there's a need for a women's only place because men make being in a coed space inhospitable, unpleasant, or even a hostile endurance contest - in ways they do not seek to make alienating to men.

Personally I am all for segregating the men. Let's have our own stores, grocery stores, gyms, restaurants, clubs, gatherings, groups. No men allowed. All of those spaces would be lovely, and troons and men would look at all the women peacefully existing from the outside and wish they could enjoy it, but we'd never let them, because they'd shit it up with their awful behavior. You know what, let's also have tinted windows so they can't leer at us from the outside either.

You'll never see a man imagine themselves as "average" woman, you will always see them imagine themselves as sex bombs the same way when they imagine themselves as women in society, they never imagine themselves as just them with their gender flipped it's always either being a submissive trad mother or a sex-loving whore because in their subconscious autogynephilic minds they think that the apex of what being a woman is either being a mother and subservient wife or a sex-loving nymphomaniac, there's no in-betweens.

I really have nothing to add, but this part of your post is worth quoting. It isn't about them being women - it's about being the sexualized version of what they imagine women to be. That's why I could never quite relate to a troon the way I could to a real woman, even back when I was supportive of them. It is all a lived out fetish for them.

Moids who put their hands on a woman's throat during sex do it because they choose to do it and they get off on it.

Only once have I had a ex boyfriend do this, unprompted, and it was fucking terrifying. I will never understand glorifying choking during sex or the whole 'choke me' trend that I see around online. I don't get what is sexy in the moment about fearing for your life. Those people are fucked in the head. We need to kink shame the same way we shame pedophiles.

 

[keke]

Oh and if the victim, child or adult get impregnated, she is then forced to carry the rape spawn to term and hailed as a hero by prolife retards and abandoned with said rape spawn after the shininess of "muh save da baybees" wears off. They are slowly allowing men to get away with rape and forced impregnation, which is one of the most dysgenic and antisocial shit I have ever seen. Rightoid redpill assholes and incels even hail this as a victory to fix the birthrate, like yeah traumatized young girls and women in poor dysfunctional settings with epigenetic timebombs that will grow up to rape another generation is a sure fix for the fertility rate. God I hate moids so much.

https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/44/2/713/753089?login=false

Even better!! In the UK, rapists (including pedophiles) have parental rights and can have custodial access to their biological children.

You can’t hate them enough.

 

[𖦹Junkpop𖦹]

I’ve started to enjoy watching the Plummeting Birthrates thread in Happenings.
It’s really entertaining watching them list actual reasons why the birthrate is in the shitter and still loop back around to blaming ‘Those DAMN FOID WHORES’. It’s actually pathetic.

God, I hate retarded Pick Me's and moids who freak out about birth rates. People are getting smart and realizing that kids are more than just an accessory and you shouldn't have them if you're poor or if you really don't want them. These retards will post memes about shit-skinned niggers and Pakis having more children, as if African and Islamic countries don't have lax laws about pedos and sexual abuse. As someone who was raised by weird, unhinged, and at times negligent characters, this makes me roll my eyes so hard.
I feel like we need some sort of strict psychological evaluation/background checks to determine whether or not you can have custody of your child other than just giving it when the kid crawls out because people are so fucking dumb. Most people who have kids now a days don't even really want them and then raise them as digital latch-key kid so they won't have to deal with them.

With companies wanting to automate everything, why would you want to have a kid? I especially hate it when stupid pro-life people say these things and defend teenage/child rape pregnancies. No, Catherine, your story shouldn't be the reason a child has to carry a pedophile baby. No, that child won't love her disgusting rape baby, and her trauma won't magically heal because life is SOOO precious. These are the same people who act like they care about Down syndrome and eugenics, but really they're just looking for validation online and in their social groups. And then they complain about how Down syndrome does not exist in Sweden due to them being aborted. This is a good thing. Disabilities are not a walk in the park as someone who has one. There is a reason why the suicide rates for autists is so high.
Wasting all your money and time on a slobbering tard that will become nothing in life is stupid and pointless.

I can't stand people who have babies with serious health problems in the womb. Who know this baby will not lead a life worth living. Who live shortly and die in pain. But pop them out due to their own selfishness.

I fucking despise those types. There's a thread on here about people parading their severely handicapped or terminally ill children around the internet for clout and I couldn't keep reading it with how much those types piss me off. I know, but damn.
These pick me pro-life rape receptacles suffer from the same kind of shit as anti-feminist women commenters like Pearl. They talk all this shit and want rights taken away and muh birth rates but never take the initiative to pop out 20 kids and leave everyone else the fuck alone. They bitch about college kids and insult their looks, but are often disgusting looking themselves. I think we should force these women to live in Islamic hellscapes for a year so they never utter this stupid shit again.

 

[Warai Otoko]

Even better!! In the UK, rapists (including pedophiles) have parental rights and can have custodial access to their biological children.

You can’t hate them enough.

WTF is wrong with the British? They deserve the nuke if they dont change the situation they are right now.

 

[keke]

WTF is wrong with the British? They deserve the nuke if they dont change the situation they are right now.

It’s EU. Rehabilitation at all costs. Similar trends all across Europe. Literally everyday occurrences. Edit; goes without saying rehabilitation doesn’t actually happen

 

[Brandy [◉'']]

Yesterday I've seen a clip of Vaush discussing this topic. His genius solution to declining birth rates is unironically opening "breeding camps" and making motherhood/child rearing a job (as if it's not 24/7 payless job already for women)

This idea seems to creep up again and again in varying forms when men are getting frustrated. Isn't this a thing troons also want? As in forcing women to have sex with them in camps like this?

At this point I am at the opinion that men should shut up about birth rates and not even be allowed to voice their opinion on this whole topic due to being so mentally stunted whenever the "birth decline" discourse gets brought up, because it always just so happens that both leftie and rightoid men have the same solution for this issue always is at the expense of women/women suffering through their freedom being limited and their rights being restricted. You never ever see either of these men offer solutions that doesn't include women suffering, in fact they are openly turning down any solution that doesn't include that and try to shame women's reasons for not wanting children.

Offering a solution that doesn't involve women suffering would mean men need to admit that they are the problem and that they need to change shit. And that would stress the moid psyche too much, no matter the political alignment.

Men fixing their own problems and treating women with humanity instead of using women as therapy tools, emotional sponges and
just somebody to extend their "legacy" while they go off being spiritual homosexuals with other men? That's too hard!

Preach!

 

[2mm and 99 others]

He then proceeded to get upset when even his biggest dickriders in his chat pointed out that the "breeding camps" solution he offered was literally a thing Nazis have done (often with underage teenagers too) in hopes of
creating more ubermensches.

And even the literal Nazi breeding camps were for volunteers, though there was some deception and lies in the recruiting process, of course, and of course the victims of persuasion were mostly poorfag girls of desired phenotype (what does this remind me of?).
The Lebensborn program was vastly unpopular with general public, that's why it was kept sort of secret. One of the reasons was, that the idea goes right against Christian values (emphasis on this!). Once they realized they ain't gonna get enough babies this way, they reoriented on stealing children from other countries (from orphanages, red triangle (political) prisoners and such).
The breeding camps weren't Hitler's idea, but he once said (unrelated to the camps) something along the lines Christianity is far from ideal religion, if you want to take over the world and Islam would be more practical.

 

[Chappell's Lost Earring]

People are getting smart and realizing that kids are more than just an accessory and you shouldn't have them if you're poor or if you really don't want them.

With modern methods of birth control, there is zero reason to have an unwanted kid. I have never gotten knocked up after a decade of dating and sleeping with men. Had to take Plan B a couple times, but there really is no excuse for actually having a kid. And that is no hate if you had to have an abortion, or had an accidental pregnancy and chose to keep it. The point is, you always had options, so if you do have a kid, you chose to have a kid.

Spoiler: political opinion on abortion

Now with stricter legislation around abortions, in red states, today it is more difficult to prevent unwanted pregnancy. But I never voted red, so unfortunately we all have to deal with the consequences of uneducated or vindictive voters who decided to vote for people who took our rights away. My recommendation is to just not sleep with men. Most of them voted for taking your right to abortion away or still are friends with men who did.

And then they complain about how Down syndrome does not exist in Sweden due to them being aborted. This is a good thing. Disabilities are not a walk in the park as someone who has one. There is a reason why the suicide rates for autists is so high.

That is insane. Good on Sweden for that call. I would 100% abort a down syndrome fetus. Actually it was a huge fear of mine moving into my 30s - getting pregnant and having a special needs kid. I feel like it is cruel to make someone go through life that way, plus it is a huge strain on the parents, assuming the man doesn't just jump ship. There's always some dumb sappy videos about kids with serious health problems who got to live for a few months or years before they croaked due to complications. I don't think your infant missing half its brain or face whatever would have had a decent life. All you did was prolong his suffering and rake in hospital bills.

Part of the reason this is such a problem is because of social media. We have the ability to record and post everything in modern times. Before when children like this were born, they just quietly ended their suffering or died on their own due to complications, I assume. Now people can use it for clout and attention. Truly is pathetic. Parading disabled and autistic people for views.

 

[YWNBAM]

I would 100% abort a down syndrome fetus. Actually it was a huge fear of mine moving into my 30s - getting pregnant and having a special needs kid.

Same. My old neighbour has a daughter with DS. Of course, the babby daddy ran out of the door as soon as the kid was born and she had to raise her all alone, while also somehow keeping a job. And it was probably his defective sperm that caused the baby's problem in the first place.

I only saw this girl a few times as a child, and I still remember the sadness and horror I felt, wondering why she was like that and why her father wasn't around. She was in her twenties but couldn't speak a word, basically a two-year-old. As far as I know, she still lives isolated in that tiny flat with her mother. Is that really a fate you'd let anyone have?

Retarded, ugly moids scream about how the white race needs to be saved with more white babies now, now, now, like spoiled children begging for a puppy. They know they won't be the ones to face the consequences of this life-changing decision. They can always run off into the sunset, proud that their worthless legacy has been spread, while the women they """"loved """" are left with broken lives and defected children who will have a hard, painful existence. It's things like these that make it hard for me to say "women are just as bad as men".

Men by biology's design have less to lose and ruin women's lives when following their "natural breeding instinct" to fuck and dump. Except that, at least in the animal kingdom, females have physical superiority over such males and are allowed to group together to raise young, while human females are left with basically nothing to compensate. Even child support is treated as somehow evil and abusive towards deadbeat dads.