Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

I don't see any difference in wearing a pumpkin colored sweater cause it's fall and wearing some fall themed eyeshadow shades. I don't see why wearing clothes you like is okay but not wearing make-up. No man has ever complimented me on my make-up or noticed it at all, it's really just women who notice it and talk about it. I don't think women should be pressured to wear make-up but I also think it's comparable to breast implants or sex works at all since those involve bodily harm.
women spend a shit ton of time and money on all of the beauty rituals expected of them, women will never have economic or political power on par with men when they spend their time and money on nonsense. Where does someone draw the line at which beauty practices are harmful or not? Women are treated better if they wear makeup, there are studies that prove that. It's hardly a choice we can make freely when it costs us work opportunities etc. Just because men don't compliment your makeup doesn't mean they don't expect you to do it, you said your self they're just too stupid to notice it, but they definitely notice if you don't look how they expect women to look. Women are expected to shave their whole bodies, use a million costly anti aging products, dye their hair, get lash extensions, eyebrows, nails etc etc. None of these things are entirely safe. I don't see how any of that is different than breast implants, these are all just ridiculous expectations placed on women to meet insane beauty standards, just because you enjoy some of those things doesn't mean they shouldn't be criticized.

Make up is not harmless either, socially, mentally or physically. All of these products contain ingredients that can do some harm, some of which are only okay to use in beauty products if you don't exceed x amount, but you get 10 different products all which use some of the same ingredients and you've passed that threshold already. Plenty of things we thought were save for decades we only learn were not safe later too, so no one should be surprised if they turn out to be carcinogenic in the future. Even most mascaras were recently shown to contain PFAS. You don't even have to be a feminist to oppose those things, I've got hippie friends that hate this shit for it's effects on health and environment.

You overestimate how much makeup most women wear daily. A lot of women I know can do it in 5-10 minutes, or less.
Even if it really takes only 5 minutes, they still had to spend time and money on trying and testing and learning with a million different products, they still have to use skin products to either make the makeup look smooth on the skin or to deal with what make up does to skin, they still have to spend time removing body hair, using a million hair products, perfumes, nail polish etc etc, you don't see men walking around with ridiculous pieces of plastic glued to their eyelashes or nails. Most of the arguments in the thread are that men should be held to higher standards and have whole ass retarder routines like this. How about humans strive to be healthy, stop polluting their bodies and their environment and not look like retarded porn imitations? Wearing make up is as feminist as cutting off your labia to fit a porn standard. I guess in the next decade women will argue that they're bleaching their assholes for themselves too cause they really enjoy it?

Wake up in the morning, take a shower, put on my boob-prison, put on my oppression fashion, put on my slavepaint, curl my hair with my suffer-stick, put on my rape shoes and and I am ready to head out he door to get sexually harassed by my boss. Such is life as a femoid.
high heels are harmful too, and hardly a choice in many places where the dress code requires them, like some places in the USA or all of japan. Women are required to wear shoes that affects their physical health just to look hot for the men around them, But some women like it i guess so we can't criticize that either.
 
How about humans strive to be healthy, stop polluting their bodies and their environment and not look like retarded porn imitations? Wearing make up is as feminist as cutting off your labia to fit a porn standard. I guess in the next decade women will argue that they're bleaching their assholes for themselves too cause they really enjoy it?
Makeup and other assorted beauty treatments have been done by humans for thousands of years at this point. This would be like telling people to stop enjoying food. How much product or time put into looking nice varies, but it’s pretty universal for people to want to look nice in some way. I’m not going to let myself go to make some sort of statement.
 
Makeup and other assorted beauty treatments have been done by humans for thousands of years at this point. This would be like telling people to stop enjoying food. How much product or time put into looking nice varies, but it’s pretty universal for people to want to look nice in some way. I’m not going to let myself go to make some sort of statement.
that's fine, you can do what you want, it isn't feminist though, that's my point. It's fine to want to look good for the benefits it affords you but it's dishonest to say women would do all that without social pressures or that it is a feminist choice. Humans have done x for ever isn't a great argument though, humans do plenty of retarded things. Also women existing in their natural state isn't "letting yourself go", that's just misogyny. One should always put health before "beauty". Regular exercise and a balanced, healthy diet is good for any body; you want to inject your face and lips with harmful fillers or botox, go ahead, but don't act like you're some brave uwu radfem if you do so. This thread is conservative women mad at porn that haven't read a word of feminism but think hating porn makes them radical.
 
that's fine, you can do what you want, it isn't feminist though, that's my point. It's fine to want to look good for the benefits it affords you but it's dishonest to say women would do all that without social pressures or that it is a feminist choice. Humans have done x for ever isn't a great argument though, humans do plenty of retarded things. Also women existing in their natural state isn't "letting yourself go", that's just misogyny. One should always put health before "beauty". Regular exercise and a balanced, healthy diet is good for any body; you want to inject your face and lips with harmful fillers or botox, go ahead, but don't act like you're some brave uwu radfem if you do so. This thread is conservative women mad at porn that haven't read a word of feminism but think hating porn makes them radical.
I don't think any of us have claimed wearing make-up is feminists or that we are all perfect feminists. This sort of gatekeeping really isn't very helpful.
 
high heels are harmful too, and hardly a choice in many places where the dress code requires them, like some places in the USA or all of japan. Women are required to wear shoes that affects their physical health just to look hot for the men around them, But some women like it i guess so we can't criticize that either.
This has always been an interesting subject for me. You can't get around a dresscode at work without a doctor's note (at least for USAfags), but it's definitely a code that should be done away with due to the plethora of health issues it can cause. Haglund's deformity, posture issues, plantar fasciitis - not to mention bunions and ingrown toenails, etc.

Fun fact: high heels were invented for men! It's true, manlets wore them to appear taller and show off their calves with sheer stocking-like socks (fucking lmao, and they call us vain) but they also had a practical use, which was to keep your heel in the stirrup on horseback if you were a fightyboy. I suck with historical dates, but they weren't associated with women until maybe the 1700s.
I’m not a feminist
Don't worry, we can tell.
 
I don't think any of us have claimed wearing make-up is feminists or that we are all perfect feminists. This sort of gatekeeping really isn't very helpful.
gate keeping is important otherwise you get the mess that is liberal feminism where every choice a woman makes is feminist and women don't have to take any responsibility for perpetuating harmful practices because everything is patriarchy and they are helpless victims who can't do better. So we get makeup, anti aging procedures and breast implants seen as perfectly compatible with feminism.
 
An important part of hating scrotes is hating the female lapdogs that carry water for them.
All women who hate men or want to vent about men are welcome in this thread, if you want to make your own feminism debate thread to figure out who gets to sit at the cool feminist lunch table there's nothing stopping you, but that's not what this thread is for and the infighting is really embarrassing.
 
gate keeping is important otherwise you get the mess that is liberal feminism where every choice a woman makes is feminist and women don't have to take any responsibility for perpetuating harmful practices because everything is patriarchy and they are helpless victims who can't do better. So we get makeup, anti aging procedures and breast implants seen as perfectly compatible with feminism.
You’re also just assuming everyone posting here is a feminist, which undermines your point. I never said I was a feminist, so you can stop holding me to feminist standards.
 
All women who hate men or want to vent about men are welcome in this thread, if you want to make your own feminism debate thread to figure out who gets to sit at the cool feminist lunch table there's nothing stopping you, but that's not what this thread is for and the infighting is really embarrassing.
"It's embarrassing when people disagree with me"
You’re also just assuming everyone posting here is a feminist, which undermines your point. I never said I was a feminist, so you can stop holding me to feminist standards.
yeah my bad i shouldn't have assumed anyone here reads
 
I don't think any of us have claimed wearing make-up is feminists
One of you did.
it's cringe to tell women we can't wear make-up and still be feminists
I can understand that you don't want the thread derailing into feminist sperging, and I can sympathise, but you are the one who brought this topic up in the first place.
 
I'd discourage girlies from making a feminism thread, not because "ew feminism"
(I would say there could be an interesting conversation with civil people), but because

I can only see the feminism thread getting swarmed by A&Hcels who would turn
it into a never-ending circlejerk fest about how feminism has ruined everything in the west( like the TERF thread)
and them blaming feminism on their own shortcomings on it, despite sounding like SJW harpies that blamed
patriarchy for everything

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I can only see the feminism thread getting swarmed by A&Hcels who would turn
it into a never-ending circlejerk fest about how feminism has ruined everything in the west( like the TERF thread)
and them blaming feminism on their own shortcomings on it, despite sounding like SJW harpies that blamed
patriarchy for everything
They’ll go in threads like that regardless, but mods are free to threadban those that do just come there to complain.
 
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