Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[MMS-China]

I would warn you against Men that are too agreeable. I would be more suspicious of the Men that take your side often. At least those opposing Men are openly honest in their dis-agreement. Hatred even. I would bet on 70-90% of Men that agree with you are hoping you will "put out." (US term I think)

As a Man, who is hearing what goes on at my dorms.

 

[Stan]

People who refuse to accept that men are by far the main perpetrators of violent crimes are delusional. It's true. But that entire line of argument isn't really relevant imo.

Ooh we got a pretentious one.

If we look at the number of violent criminals relative to the number of men, its a drop in the bucket.

It’s not, and nearly all men will act out in violent ways to discourage complaining, assert dominance, and stifle female criticism

Since you ladies actually want to have a serious conversation, indulge me.

Bold of you to assume that, moid.

We don't have enough data to make conclusive arguments about anything so everything comes down to speculation and reliance on personal experience.

We have plenty of data. You know nothing, Jon Snow.

The complaints y'all have for that thread apply to this one, too. Its hard to distinguish who is shitposting for giggles and who is seriously unhinged. Its one thing to let off steam on KF and troll for fun and its another to actually believe this shit. There are people in both threads that need a reality check, and none of us check those posters on it as often as we should. If this was only a shitposting thread, I wouldn't be saying this. Both threads are full of unproductive vitriol and I think its funny that posters in both threads vitriolically point out the other thread's vitriol. Until that changes, all of us are being retarded together.

Don’t pretend that this is somehow an equal playing field and women and men are somehow equally responsible for male oppression of women.

I did not say it was rare enough to ignore. I said that relative to the total male population, rapists are a drop in the bucket. Trying to extrapolate rape to all men is ridiculous. I'm entirely in support of castration for rapists and have negative sympathy for them. I can understand why women think about the risks of being raped often. Do you carry a gun for self defense?

If you’re not a rapist then you’re the kind of guy who stans them with assertions like “we have no credible data” “not all men” “just carry a gun”. Imo carrying a gun doesn’t make you safe, it can be taken from you and used against you by an assailant.

As for unreported sexual assault statistics, my primary concern is methodology. I don't think its reasonable to go off half-cocked unless the data is watertight.

The data is pretty convincing, and you seem unaware that saying things like this covers for the rapist males in your cohort

I listed problems that I see often see repeated on this thread. This is in no way an exhaustive list. And men are not victims of violent crime and domestic abuse?

At the hands of other men, sure. The size/strength differential between men and women also means that women are more likely to be seriously injured in a domestic assault; men, not so much.

Excluding rape, men are still the primary victims of violent crimes across the board. That's not me trying to say "but what about the poor helpless men!?", that's me saying that violence is an unfortunate reality for everyone and that should need no particular emphasis unless its heavily skewed.

Well yours is the tard-rage gender. Yours is the gender visiting violence on everybody. Women tend not to try and solve their problems by the muzzle of a gun.

patrick bateman and homelander are the usual "edgy" characters that immature boys worship

Any character played by Harrison Ford

Sorry you feel that way. It probably is, and frankly I don't care either. I'm not a woman. I carry. I refuse to be a victim of violent crime and want to protect my loved ones to the best of my ability.

I’m skeptical that arming yourself accomplishes that. Either the gun needs to be stored in a state of readiness, which makes accidents more likely, or it’ll be stored in such a way that you won’t have time to retrieve it and load it.

And also… guns are a phallic symbol lmao

Will expect you to clean up all the shit stained tissue paper and spilled pee bottles left on the ground

FTFY

Rightoids will claim muh motherhood so important, a wahmens highest calling and then call single moms the most evil thing on the planet, responsible for every single male failing and all of the ills of the world. They will literally say single moms are the downfall of civilization, but won't say a single fucking thing about he deadbeat piece of shit moids who impregnate the Women.

I hate them so fucking much.

They love motherhood but don’t want to help mothers

 

[mmm semen]

As an actual rad-leaning feminist, this is an interesting topic for me. A lot of genuine radical feminists are pretty normie, but there are some former fujos and even current fujos who consider themselves radical feminist or rad-leaning. And the normie ones consider fictional porn weird, gross, things like that. My, possibly unpopular opinion among rad and rad-leaning fems, is I don't mind fictional porn and erotic drawings nearly as much as the real thing, at least not when women do it.

When men do it, however, it's a different story. Their ability to separate fiction from reality is far worse, as proven by how many times men posting lolishit have proven to be real pedos. Men trace from actual children (Shadman, Assigned male at Birth). Men escalate and will try to get their female significant others to do all sorts of gross shit that should stay in their disturbed moid minds. Male sexuality is a disease, period.

I have no problems sexualizing men in erotica made by women. Porn for women and porn for men are polar opposites.

Women do not make up 99% of sex offenders, and men do not make up the primary target of sexual abuse. That means women don't reenact scenes they see in porn on men in a crowded bus, and sex scenes in such porn don't contain such fetishes, because paraphilias are very rare in women. Porn where old fat women sodomize young men who are crying in pain and shame is not a typical scenario that women watch to get off to. Something typical would be positive depictions of men, where the man is caring, attentive, protective and enjoys communicating with the self insert woman. He'd also be a pro at pussy eating when the camera is not on him and his reactions.

As for fictional porn, that's the "safer" niche for teens and young women to explore. Its been said a bunch of times that yaoi is a woman's way to self-insert in a fictional relationship with a man on more equal terms in a familiar man/woman heterosexual dynamic with the seme/uke tropes. Unfortunately, the alphabet religion got their groomer claws on yaoi, and its no longer a safe way for young women to explore sexuality without seeing women get abused in normal porn or talking to and hooking up with an actual moid.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Porn especially made for women is still dangerous as it gives women unrealistic expectations of men such as being treated with kindness and respect or that gay men aren't AIDS riddled degenerates taking strange dick up their ass at your local gas station.


Talking about gay men, isn't it funny how well trannies and normal men get along when the topic is woman-hate? It gives troons the validation they seek because they can act like pick-me's and show how much "better" than women they are cause duh, they are also misogynistic and "as a tranny I know my place in the world is to be a bangmaid uwu cock so tasty yum yum" and men go "Yaaaaas queen! Slay! Women are obsolete now that we can just bang tranny gash!". Misogyny really brings the lads together, it's the one thing they can all agree on no matter what end of the political spectrum.

 

[Inside your walls]

I am getting tired of this meme where every time there's news about the coastal or border guard rescuing poor wittle migrants and letting them stay, it's always without missing a beat, middle eastern or some other brown moids who are all from some war-torn countries and coincidentally, all of them are of the fighting age.

Other shoutout goes to the older moid migrants who are most likely responsible for running down the shithole they're running away from, coming to USA or Europe to run down another place. Most of them will have the audacity to talk how shitty and war torn their country is all the while they most likely left their wives and children there to fend for themselves.

Men idolize characters who assault and abuse women when they're written by men who make misogyny a casual/glamorous detail of the character's personality, but get assmad when the same behavior is treated with rightful disdain for how disgustingly psychopathic and violent it is.

Moids that unironically idolize characters like Patrick Bateman or Homelander are the ones that mald and call women psychotic for idolizing
characters like Carrie, The chick from Gone Girl and Jennifer from Jennifer's body. Tale old as time.

 

[AmberHeardSupporter]

Porn especially made for women is still dangerous as it gives women unrealistic expectations of men such as being treated with kindness and respect or that gay men aren't AIDS riddled degenerates taking strange dick up their ass at your local gas station.


Talking about gay men, isn't it funny how well trannies and normal men get along when the topic is woman-hate? It gives troons the validation they seek because they can act like pick-me's and show how much "better" than women they are cause duh, they are also misogynistic and "as a tranny I know my place in the world is to be a bangmaid uwu cock so tasty yum yum" and men go "Yaaaaas queen! Slay! Women are obsolete now that we can just bang tranny gash!". Misogyny really brings the lads together, it's the one thing they can all agree on no matter what end of the political spectrum.

You’re much too based for this website. Every moid is one rejection away from trooning

Porn where old fat women sodomize young men who are crying in pain and shame is not a typical scenario that women watch to get off to.

The mere fact that painal and teen and stepsister and stuck porn are so popular should be more than enough to peak all women on men’s degenaracy but alas women have to find every way to cope with that

Moids that unironically idolize characters like Patrick Bateman or Homelander are the ones that mald and call women psychotic for idolizing
characters like Carrie, The chick from Gone Girl and Jennifer from Jennifer's body. Tale old as time.

Ok but homelander did nothing wrong

 

[Kung Pow Cream]

I saw a post saying that women have to constantly keep the thought in their head that she might be assaulted by a man every time they leave the safety of their own homes. And the sad thing is that oftentimes it occurs within their homes as well.
Women have to do everything right or they'll be called stupid or naive for letting this happen to them.

She didn't have a self defense weapon like pepper spray? She didn't take self defense classes? Well she's just stupid.

She went on a date with someone that assaulted her? She should have picked better.

A woman could do everything right and still be assaulted and then will still be blamed. But if we point out that it is the men that do these things, that makes no sense. That's just life! You have to deal with it. You should just go to therapy and get over it.

bringing this back

>woman has a chimpanzee as a pet
>chimpanzee mutilates and nearly kills her friend
>"That lady was stupid! You shouldn't have a wild animal as pet! They're violent and dangerous and aren't domesticated at all!"
>woman gets assaulted by a man
>"She somehow chose the wrong man even if she thought the man was okay! It doesn’t matter if he changed his behavior from what he was before!"

Make it make sense, ladies. Make it make sense.

It's almost as if men are violent creatures. It's almost as if men are the actual problem and not the women.

 

[Generic Anime Girl]

Living in countries where you can't shoot and kill scrotes in self defense cause you're not allowed a gun sucks ass.

To be fair, in some US states there are a lot of crazy ass restrictions made by politicians so that it's basically impossible to get your hands on a gun. NY/NJ are among the worst I believe.

As for fictional porn, that's the "safer" niche for teens and young women to explore. Its been said a bunch of times that yaoi is a woman's way to self-insert in a fictional relationship with a man on more equal terms in a familiar man/woman heterosexual dynamic with the seme/uke tropes. Unfortunately, the alphabet religion got their groomer claws on yaoi, and its no longer a safe way for young women to explore sexuality without seeing women get abused in normal porn or talking to and hooking up with an actual moid.

fuck goids, we must take back what's ours lol

 

[Golden Face]

i always roll my eyes when i see the "hurrdurr women hate eachother and are all catty bitches, but men are chill bros who always have eachothers backs!" take

nigger, who do you think is committing 99% of crimes against men? it's not the weaker sex, i promise.

"women hate each other more than a man could ever hate women"

women aren't stoning each other for being rape victims. women aren't cutting off other womens tits and turning them into furniture. women aren't heating up METAL COINS to throw at strippers. women aren't raping each other and leaving the victim pregnant and tramatized. women don't pressure their wives into having their children, then mock them for having post-partum bodies.

but, uh, yeah, women totally hate each other way more than men hate women. whamen are the root of all our problems, men have never hated women. it's clearly just in those paranoid bitch's heads.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Women and sexualization is a weird topic for me, because I see women complain about sexualization and then happily sexualize themselves. Different women could have different views on the subject, sure, but its a bizarre point to make when women willingly sexualize themselves regularly. I'm sorry, but I don't buy that it's purely men's fault.

Here’s a crucial distinction: a woman sexualizing herself* is operating as the subject of the metaphorical sentence; a man sexualizing a woman is doing the same (being the “I,” the subject of the sentence), which means that he has made the woman the object of that sentence. Objects can’t take action and have no agency.

*curious what you have in mind

Do people sit around and think like that^ consciously when they’re acting a way or reacting to being treated in a way? Probably not, but most adults tend to feel better when they are directing their lives and defining themselves, particularly in comparison to merely being acted upon or defined wholly by others.

And sure, if you act or present in ways that make you vulnerable to criticism or poor treatment in a particular culture, then you may in fact get criticized. That doesn’t mean the criticism is necessarily deserved, accurate, or sometimes even anything more than mean-spirited and poor-character people exercising the only (poor substitute for) power and control they’ve managed to cultivate in life.

As for unreported sexual assault statistics, my primary concern is methodology. I don't think it’s reasonable to go off half-cocked unless the data is watertight.

The data is air- and watertight. I’m willing to bet that more than one woman in this thread, and many of the mothers, wives, girlfriends and sisters of the men in the woman-hate thread have been sexually assaulted and did not report it, for a variety of valid reasons, including youth, naïveté, awareness that to do so would likely be both futile and career- or life-compromising, and others.

 

[Stan]

The data is air- and watertight. I’m willing to bet that more than one woman in this thread, and many of the mothers, wives, girlfriends and sisters of the men in the woman-hate thread have been sexually assaulted and did not report it, for a variety of valid reasons, including youth, naïveté, awareness that to do so would likely be both futile and career- or life-compromising, and others.

Moids: “there’s not enough data”
Women: *provide the data*
Moids: “well, if this is so common why haven’t you ever experienced it?!”
Women: *provide numerous examples of it happening to them personally*
Moids: HA ANECDOTE N=1 CHECKMATE FEMINISTS

 

[Freya]

I work at a call center rn. Most of my coworkers are women from poor backgrounds. It is somewhat racially diverse. Almost all of them have stories about being raped, hit or emotionally abused. None of these incidents were reported ofc. One woman won't stfu about her dead abusive bf, who was also a pastor and registered sex offender lol

Not trying to talk myself up here, but I'm the only one from a middle class background and I was stunned to hear the shit they talk about. What is more incredible is that they seem to accept it. It's terrifying how much shit flies under the radar with poor women

 

[Golden Face]

Almost all of them have stories about being raped, hit or emotionally abused.

have you considered they might have provoked their more logical male partner with their irrationality and womanly behavior?

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

Since you ladies actually want to have a serious conversation, indulge me.

No, I don't think I will. You seem to have this thread confused with a debate or Q&A thread. It's already been offered to make a crossover thread for debate and whinging between the two sides. Your refusal to take part in doing that does not magically transform this thread into a platform for you and your dingleberry buddies to barge in and command us to explain ourselves directly and individually to you.

 

[Golden Face]

i love how so many users in the woman-hate thread casually admit to being fatasses, then make fun of female kiwifarms users for being fat

maybe those fatties wouldn't hate women so much if they found a fellow landwhale to date. i'm sure an all you can eat buffet would be romantic.

 

[Lidl Drip]

When I started the thread I thought we would be scouring the internet for examples of men being cringe, awful and embarrassing, but instead men just ended up bringing the content to us. Convenient.

 

[Perun]

I would warn you against Men that are too agreeable. I would be more suspicious of the Men that take your side often. At least those opposing Men are openly honest in their dis-agreement. Hatred even. I would bet on 70-90% of Men that agree with you are hoping you will "put out." (US term I think)

As a Man, who is hearing what goes on at my dorms.

thanks kid, but most of us already figured out by the time we went to high school that men will say literally anything to get laid. Saying the most ridiculous shit and seeing them agree is great fun though.

i love how so many users in the woman-hate thread casually admit to being fatasses, then make fun of female kiwifarms users for being fat

somehow being a fat-ass is ok if you're a man but if you're a woman and don't look like a porn star after you gave birth to their kids it's a crime against humanity

 

[Grimoire Canthari]

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/dont-be-a-dick-when-getting-dick.171779/

Linking from A&N. Some faggot goes anonymous journofaggot mode to whine about how asking if someone doesn't have STDs is so rude and icky. Complete with some juvenile illustrations of penises in beds. How are your fellow ass pirates supposed to take you seriously with this shit?

 

[Angry Shoes]

My main takeaway from skimming this thread: Are there really dudes out there not washing their asses? That’s pretty repulsive.

 

[Catloaf]

My main takeaway from skimming this thread: Are there really dudes out there not washing their asses? That’s pretty repulsive.

There are dudes out there who don't even shower for weeks or at the very least don't wash their smegma infested smelly dicks.