Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[ConsentAccidentVictimNo98]

Real question: Do you guys believe that there's a direct correlation between Internet porn and the increase of troonery. I go back and forth in my mind about this a lot. Internet porn has been prevalent since the 90s, and we saw troons start to pop around 2014-5. Are there multiple factors?

Yes and no. It depends on the cause factor for the individual when it comes to why they become a troon. Eg, the more historic example is usually for gay men trooning out such that they could then become married to other men (this was more prevalent in the 50s). I'm not going into Weimar and Nazi germany but that's another can of worms (yes people that carried out sex change operations later worked for the nazi party).

The common cause factors which I've personally noticed are typically that of (for men) are AGP, HSTS and Autism/Masking (this exists in a quest for some form of social acceptance). The AGP as we all well know would be of a higher correlation, this being primarily because of how it is derived from a fetish of the perception of feminity. Porn helps push the idea of women wanted to be used and abused sexually and some will get off to this. HSTS is not directly relevant but may. Similarly, for the Autism/Masking cause factor (I do need to work on a better term for this) a lot of it too comes from perceptions. A lot of this is built firmly around why a male may wish to transition from this cause factor and what helps lead to it. Generally speaking, the (high functioning) autist is often pushed to try mask into society and this is true for autism in both men and women and hide their special interests. With high functioning autism, whereby social boundaries may not be clearly defined or seem dumb it really needs to come from their idea of femininity and what specifically morphed it. This latter category I need to work on defining more. Internet pornography however is an integral part of online troon culture. This needs to be emphasised so although they may not be a direct correlation in that of the cause factors, there is certainly a link. - I only picked up on it personally after reading about masking as I was unaware of the concept directly (I was aware of the act subconsciously) in terms of trying to fit into social groups. Ik some others have mentioned it.

For women, the most prevalent form is typically in that of the reaction of society and that of feminity. Some, may chose to reject being a women because they may view themselves as lesser for it. I do recall seeing figures of this whereby if a woman was exposed to pornography at a younger age they may be more likely to "transition" (it's typically more traumatizing for women from what I've read about it). What "transition" means for women however is often different for men then women. Especially in teenage years. It's more not wanting to be of the classical idea of partaking in womanhood. It's like why some women today do wish to have breast reduction because of the idea of being sexualised.

It's typically bad practice to assign singular variables as leading a person to become or do X. This however, is to not say that porn cannot help lead to transition. It certainly can.

 

[Kali Muscle]

Do you guys believe that there's a direct correlation between Internet porn and the increase of troonery.

As a man-hater, my position is that there are multiple factors, I subscribe to the Exulansic school of analysis on the subject and think that AGPs are affected by porn and coomerism, teenage girls by misogyny, and gays and lesbians by homophobia. I recommend her Substack

 

[Mothra1988]

Real question: Do you guys believe that there's a direct correlation between Internet porn and the increase of troonery. I go back and forth in my mind about this a lot. Internet porn has been prevalent since the 90s, and we saw troons start to pop around 2014-5. Are there multiple factors?

Porn is a skapegoat imo and doesn't really get to the core of it. It's more the idea that identity could be changed. Like when we were in grade school, I'm sure you heard some of the boys fantasize about "dude, what if I you could be a girl for a day, what would you do, play with your boobs all day?" These people grew up, became losers and then noticed this cool new fashion trend where they could just start over as the opposite sex as some kind of real life reset button. I think this explains transtrending, it's a fucking fashion trend that involves identity and the ability to try to swap their shitty lives for what the perceive women have. I'm sure if there was no social taboo to it, a lot of these same losers would be transitioning from white to black or something else. They just hate their selves and want to become something else. The lid coming off was the media suddenly telling these people that doing this was normal and there should be no social cost for it including with support from the goverment. I don't think tranny porn really became more poplar or something.

 

[Lidl Drip]

I don't think tranny porn really became more poplar or something.

It's not the tranny porn itself that people are talking about when they say that porn is trooning men out. I don't think it's just a coincidence that all trannies, without fail, are porn addicts. They don't necessarily all watch tranny porn but they watch porn in which women are degraded and dehumanized. It also happens that autogynephilia in itself is a fetish for degradation because what is more degrading to a man than being "feminized" and being put into the position of a woman? They watch sissy hypno porn in which they are told "You are not a man at all, you are just a dumb sissy bitch to be fucked". They see being a woman as humiliating, they see being woman as being a sex object whose entire purpose is to be used as a hole for a man to fuck. Troons straight up admit that this is how they see women. And porn is a LARGE reason as to why men see women like that. There are no trannies that want to be just normal women living their day to day life. There are no trannies that want to be old women. They all want to be kinky hot teenage girls and alt goth girls, UwU anime girls and mommy milky MILFs etc. They want to be porn stereotypes. Porn addiction is absolutely a leading cause for men trooning out.

 

[LimeRikki]

Porn always makes men worse in bed, and potentially more violent.

 

[Stan]

liberals they typically tend to use concepts in a very flimsy way and like to flip flop

It’s because modern liberalism is a social progress party that’s controlled by wealthy capitalists. So the party focuses on identity politics in order to avoid discussion of class struggle.

Real question: Do you guys believe that there's a direct correlation between Internet porn and the increase of troonery. I go back and forth in my mind about this a lot. Internet porn has been prevalent since the 90s, and we saw troons start to pop around 2014-5. Are there multiple factors?

I’m inclined to agree with Lidl and say yes. Men who get too into tranny porn are likely to troon out. They believe that being a woman is a degrading experience and that being fucked makes them women. It really burnt my biscuits when Contrapoints used “dost thou bleed?!?” as a running joke of Terfism vs. Trans inclusivity. Because as much as he’d like to pretend it doesn’t matter, it darn well does. It’s the logic by which the moids oppress all women (whether they menstruate or not), and it is required to have a child, which I consider a much more feminine-affirming experience than getting ones period.

I get mad if people use South Park references to avoid voting, but there was one episode that stuck with me: the one where Mr. Harrison becomes Mrs. Garrison. It asks: did you really change yourself into a woman, or did you just change your appearance to resemble one?

So yes, the porn is messing with the moid brain and it normalizes crazy shit (of all stripes, if it’s not about pretending to be a woman for the transgressive degradation it’s about coercing women to fuck dogs for transgressive degradation) to the extent that they have trouble getting interested in normal vanilla sex. Deeply troubling for us straight women, imo.

 

[Terffals]

Porn always makes men worse in bed, and potentially more violent.

If they can get it up at all. It’s well known that men who regularly watch porn are more likely to suffer erectile dysfunction, painful erections, and so on. Given how important the coom is to men, why doesn’t this fact have more of an impact? Porn is just that strong of a drug.

It will never happen, but if I became president tomorrow, the first thing I’d do would ban all porn and pit bull breeding in America. Two things which contribute nothing but misery to society.

 

[Vibromatic Heart Bed]

Men are so fucking cringe when they try to copy what they see in porn. They're so unimaginative and boring. Their "dirty talk" is the dumbest most laughable shit I've ever heard. The last guy I slept with, told me with a straight dead-eyed face "I'm gOnNa dEsTrOy yOuR pUsSy" and he got visibly annoyed when he tried to put my body into one of those weird contorted porn positions and I wouldn't do it. LMAO like was that supposed to turn me on??? All they want is to reenact pixels on a screen. My actual comfort and pleasure is a second thought, an inconvenience, a barrier to their stupid sputtering orgasm. Go fuck a fleshlight crammed into a couch cushion and leave me alone next time, y chromo.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Trannies are the main catalyst for my man-hate. I have never realized just how many terrible things men think about women until trannies started saying the quiet parts out loud. Watching men act out how they wish women acted and it's all just "I am a dumb slut, hurr durr estrogen made me bad at math UwU give me headpats and call me a stupid hole!!". And especially the men who are like 6ft with a beard but they get upset when someone calls them sir because "How do you see that I am not a woman?! I wear A SKIRT! I have LONG HAIR! And I got pink nailpolish!!! What more is there to being a woman than that?!". Like.. yeah... that's literally what we are to them.

 

[johnny dollars]

Trannies are the main catalyst for my man-hate. I have never realized just how many terrible things men think about women until trannies started saying the quiet parts out loud. Watching men act out how they wish women acted and it's all just "I am a dumb slut, hurr durr estrogen made me bad at math UwU give me headpats and call me a stupid hole!!". And especially the men who are like 6ft with a beard but they get upset when someone calls them sir because "How do you see that I am not a woman?! I wear A SKIRT! I have LONG HAIR! And I got pink nailpolish!!! What more is there to being a woman than that?!". Like.. yeah... that's literally what we are to them.

Isn't that Dylan Mulvaney's entire career?

 

[Lidl Drip]

Isn't that Dylan Mulvaney's entire career?

Yeah basically. At least he is causing a mass-peaking of women who suddenly realize "Hey... this is kind of offensive to women?"

 

[Heckler1]

Trannies are the main catalyst for my man-hate. I have never realized just how many terrible things men think about women until trannies started saying the quiet parts out loud. Watching men act out how they wish women acted and it's all just "I am a dumb slut, hurr durr estrogen made me bad at math UwU give me headpats and call me a stupid hole!!". And especially the men who are like 6ft with a beard but they get upset when someone calls them sir because "How do you see that I am not a woman?! I wear A SKIRT! I have LONG HAIR! And I got pink nailpolish!!! What more is there to being a woman than that?!". Like.. yeah... that's literally what we are to them.

I think trannies/troons also have some of the most potent misogyny ever seen. The level of rage they have when a woman dares question/say no to them used to be only reserved for alcholic husbands who beat their wives to death. Now it is socially protected and allowed to be some kind of moral standard, when all it really is, is the continued defilement of womanhood.

 

[johnny dollars]

I walking home from my university and I saw these two large dudes. Big, tall, fat, and had big beards. But they were wearing dresses, Doc Martins, and makeup and had long painted nails (probably fake). I remember this being the first time I really became anti-troon, because I was thinking, "these guys are making zero effort to actually look like women, they're just crossdressing because they probably get off to it. Disgusting."

Looking back, it was early in the semester, so they may have been fratboys rushing or something (probably not, but still possible). I actually have no idea.

 

[I'm a Silly]

I think trannies/troons also have some of the most potent misogyny ever seen. The level of rage they have when a woman dares question/say no to them used to be only reserved for alcholic husbands who beat their wives to death. Now it is socially protected and allowed to be some kind of moral standard, when all it really is, is the continued defilement of womanhood.

succinct and apt!

 

[Stan]

If they can get it up at all. It’s well known that men who regularly watch porn are more likely to suffer erectile dysfunction, painful erections, and so on. Given how important the coom is to men, why doesn’t this fact have more of an impact? Porn is just that strong of a drug.

That’s like asking smokers why they can’t quit when they know cigarettes do them no good and much harm. Short-term reward > long-term consequence.

 

[Lidl Drip]

I think trannies/troons also have some of the most potent misogyny ever seen. The level of rage they have when a woman dares question/say no to them used to be only reserved for alcholic husbands who beat their wives to death. Now it is socially protected and allowed to be some kind of moral standard, when all it really is, is the continued defilement of womanhood.

"Transphobia" is just modern men finding a way to be misogynistic towards women again that is accepted by society and still lets them call themselves liberals/progressive.

 

[Kali Muscle]

I think trannies/troons also have some of the most potent misogyny ever seen. The level of rage they have when a woman dares question/say no to them used to be only reserved for alcholic husbands who beat their wives to death. Now it is socially protected and allowed to be some kind of moral standard, when all it really is, is the continued defilement of womanhood.

Recently I've resorted to public shaming men in dresses by staring at them. The way they react is very different from regular men. Regular men just stare back, but these guys, they're having a breakdown on the inside, it is a visible seethe and quite something to behold. 10/10 recommend may only work if you're female and he's AGP MTF.

 

[12345]

Speaking of porn, ever have a guy suggest a threesome but then absolutely lose his shit when you flip it around on them? "Sure, you can bring another woman into our bed if I can bring another guy." "What the fuck? No! I'M NOT GAY!"

Neither am I, and yet you asked.

 

[starbies]

Recently I've resorted to public shaming men in dresses by staring at them. The way they react is very different from regular men. Regular men just stare back, but these guys, they're having a breakdown on the inside, it is a visible seethe and quite something to behold. 10/10 recommend may only work if you're female and he's AGP MTF.

You have ovaries of steel. I basically caved after getting called bigoted terf cunt by local self-proclaimed communists (actually nepobabies) for saying the scariest phrase imaginable (transwomen are just transwomen, not women).

Hilariously, I used to be a troon-supporter because I've actually never seen one irl & don't have Twitter.

 

[The Axolotl Throttle]

Men are so fucking cringe when they try to copy what they see in porn. They're so unimaginative and boring. Their "dirty talk" is the dumbest most laughable shit I've ever heard. The last guy I slept with, told me with a straight dead-eyed face "I'm gOnNa dEsTrOy yOuR pUsSy" and he got visibly annoyed when he tried to put my body into one of those weird contorted porn positions and I wouldn't do it. LMAO like was that supposed to turn me on??? All they want is to reenact pixels on a screen. My actual comfort and pleasure is a second thought, an inconvenience, a barrier to their stupid sputtering orgasm. Go fuck a fleshlight crammed into a couch cushion and leave me alone next time, y chromo.

And porn's taught them that spit is a good lubricant. That's fucking disgusting and demeaning, and truly only the shit-flinging moid mind can be convinced that that's okay. "Oh how romantic, he's treating me like a sidewalk curb!"

It's all so tiring.