Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

I think leftist men should be first against the wall. Socialist men, commie larpers, male "feminists" should be the first to go. They hate women arguably even more then RW or Centrist men, but they paint it over with social justice bullshit. At least RW men know their place as soldiers (even if they larp as them).
Definitely. They’re all predators who are looking to break down defenses and gain trust before striking. The absolute worst come from both sides and use leftist talking points as an excuse for their sex pestery. Like in my previous post where they get furious at another man for leaving the reservation and saying old dudes are creepy to prey on young women. They throw up that it ‘infantilizes’ women (very progressive of them lol). Despite their being MASSIVE Cognitive differences and life experiences between the early 20s and early 30s. Playing semantics about things like what grooming is, the exact date a person is now ‘mature’ enough to consent, are all ways that they can low key normalize their desire to prey on young women and then turn it around to blame the woman when she has enough sense to leave. As we see itt, men expect women to be strong and mature enough to consent to age gap relationships and babies with old pervs fresh out of high school, while they feel ‘too young and inexperienced’ to settle at even 30.

Any dude who uses an SJW type argument is never arguing in good faith, at least with trads you know upfront what you’re getting.

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask about this,
It’s not, read the top of the page.
I'm a WFH guy in his late 20s-early 30s. I don't really have many interests outside of my job. I'm certain that there are other people like me.
There are, but you need to change that, it ain’t healthy. There are women who do this and make motherhood their personalities, but as stated earlier itt, motherhood never ends and a job does. So unless your job is in a field that you’re super passionate about, you’re going to need to find some semblance of interests outside of your work. Men don’t want to be around turbo-mommies that have no personally because ‘muh kids’ (and I say this as a mother), and women don’t want to be around dudes who have no personality outside of work. Especially because this leads to ‘keep me entertained’ clinginess. I’m saying this as kindly as I can, seek out something that interests you, for yourself if not for any other reason.
I'm looking for a partner and I am burnt out on dating apps, so I have kind of given up. Is this phenomena present in women as well?
Dating apps are for hookups, not LTRs.
Is there a numerically significant group of single women out there who really don't have any interests or hobbies in their late 20s to 30s who are avoiding dating apps, but want partners, or is it mostly a male phenomenon? If it is, why do you think it is?
Sure, there are women who make their careers and kids their personalities, but I’d say most women have hobbies. Hell, most men have hobbies, even if it’s brain rot vidya. How are you going to maintain a relationship when neither of you share any interests or have any hobbies outside of each other? One day the kids will move out and the job will end and you’re going to be stuck looking at each other like ‘well now what?’
 
I'll add this to your pile of things to think about.

Any hobby (barring taxidermy, or anything actually criminal, or openly sexually deviant) is better than no hobby/activity, for your own self first and foremost, but also in a life involving a partner. Your partner, whoever they may be, does not want you only being interested in them and constantly hanging around all the time. You need to have things you do for yourself.

You're a little too old to be hunting the clubs for a good time, especially on your own, and I get the impression you might be a bit shy. These are by no means insurmountable. It does mean you are probably looking for a club/meetup/activity where you do something or make something, rather than just purposely hang out. Score book clubs off your lists, even if you love reading, unless they are genre book clubs. Those tend to be more relaxed and friendly vibes, so if there's a semi local horror or scifi or fantasy book club, go to it.

Before you scream "these are activities for NERDS, I want a WOMAN" please remember these activities are full of women, many of whom are single, and as someone who is not madly extroverted and juggling a Kardashian style social calendar, you are in fact looking for someone much like yourself who is quite happy to stay home doing her hobbies and shit. You are, friend, looking for a pleasant lady who is herself a bit of a nerd.

If I hear one word about "but overweight" or "but glasses" or "but not flirty", I will fucking end you. Popular Bubbly Stacy is on the dating apps, and you've struck out there. She is not for you kid, she is for the streets and guys pulling in nearly 7 figures a year. I was a fucking nerd before it was cool, and I did not marry any of my nerd brethren who I spent all my time gaming with; my parents found me an arsehole doctor with no hobbies but a fat income because I was pretty and superficially sociable. So instead of Malibu Barbie, you're going to need to date a real mainstream individual who likes Doctor Who and chocolate. There are worse things. Despite the internet commentary, most men are IRL partnered with women who are very average looking, and they get on alright that way. We used to have a saying in my youth, "You can have high standards, or you can have sex." This is even more important in terms of long term partnership. You can definitely trade off some squidge or really bad hair in return for a pleasant and quiet home life. (There is a reason the married man never actually leaves his wife for the mistress, even though the mistress is convinced she's objectively much more sexually appealing, and this mate, this is the reason.)

So. Faintly nerdy activities. Find your Local Friendly Gaming Store. If you do not play one of Warhammer, 40K, D&D, or MtG, you are about to. Do not state these things are a sausagefest. Yes, they are disproportionately male. Yes, the women there are often partnered. Do not for one moment underestimate the willingness, nay compulsion, of partnered women to try to pair off their single friends/relations with a pleasant single bloke of their acquaintance who has behaved respectably and Not Creepily in public. Jane Austen is one of the most famous authors in the English language and her books are nothing BUT married ladies pairing off their mates. Cinema clubs are more popular post lockdown and those are great because everyone can have an opinion on a film. There will be one enormous wanker in the film club. Don't be him and don't worry about him either, everyone knows he is a wanker.

Also, getting out and about having something that interests you is FOR YOU. It gives some point in your week that's not work. It gives something for you to do of an evening and something to think about that's not work. You WFH; you genuinely for your own psyche need some In Person Socialisation. I find people exhausting and at the same time my mental health flatlines if I don't go out for a couple of days. The majority of folk playing Horus Heresy in particularly tend to be folk like you or older; normal guys who still want to game but don't want to power or deal with kids. The scene is chilled out and very pleasant. Scope out your local/semilocal nerd scene for these things. Even, if there's a busy FB page or local forum, get talking to some of the locals on there and then come to an in person event so you've broken the ice a bit.

Go and poke around Youtube and Reddit (YES I KNOW) not in the opinion hellhole parts of these sites, but the hobby ones. Woodworking and shit. Honest to fking god, I used to have an actual train set and the train set dudes meet up all the time and most of them are solid dudes. You need to get out the fucking house my bro.

If you like sports, go do sports. I like watching sports and have never willingly done any, so I don't know how you become a gym bro or a sport bro. The bros in the women hating thread know that kind of thing, those are hobbies they enjoy. They will have advice for you. If you just like watching sports and can afford it, get a season ticket to Local Sports Team of Choice. They always, always have IRL meetups - especially to travel to away games - and they are nowadays usually mixed-sex groups. This is enjoyable and easy to access and will keep you busy, since they usually do nights out and other crap as well as just go to games.

None of this is advice on How Get Woman because I have no gf myself and no idea how to get one. I have not been expected in my life to get gf, so it's sort of like asking my advice on how to programme in Cobol. But I have moved around a lot, often to places where I knew no one, and I know how to get together a social life and a social circle from scratch, quickly.

If you are vaguely handy or even just pleasant and willing and inoffensive, your local church has about a million groups that need you to do something. (Handing out the tea and sandwiches is not beneath you, btw. No one likes That Guy Who Is Too Good To Help. Fuck that dude. It is not being a 'simp' or a 'beta' to be pleasant and helpful in normal society at social gatherings.)

This will both keep you busy and put you in the way of those meddling married women discussed earlier. Something that men completely fail to grasp is the extent to which women rely upon and expect social signalling of acceptance of a partner. We don't just not fancy Nigel No Mates because he has no mates and therefore is a "low value male". We don't fancy Nigel No Mates because the lack of visible social bonds, especially to other women, means we don't have the reassurance that he's, well, normal and passes the creep test. A guy who socialises without trouble with other women (of ANY age, and actually, older ones sniff out creeps fast) tells us the key piece of screening data women use in looking for a partner: this guy is safe, this guy is okay, this guy isn't a missing stair. (Go and google the missing stair by Cliff Pervocracy and read it carefully. It is the best explanation of how women screen potential hookups, potential partners that I can give you.) We are looking for safety signals and we are looking for other women - the older ladies at church, the wives and gfs of your D&D group, your fellow book club members - to give us that OK signal.

Your local youth group (scouts etc) are always looking for people, especially younger folk, who aren't openly child molesters to volunteer for shit. I know, you don't want to look like you have a weird interest in children. It is possible to want to do youth work without having a weird interest in children, and I am going to assume you are not a molester. Groups that work with teenage boys are especially desperate for male figures who have done things like get a job and not go to jail because a lot of kids have no dad or dad0ish figure on the scene. Working with young people is actually very rewarding and also they are funny as fuck. So think about that.

Mate, go make friends. I know we all think that making new friends is a thing we outgrow at like 12. This is BS. Our lives are more atomised than ever. Most adults I know complain quite regularly that they'd like to do a new hobby or meet some new interesting people. You've obviously got steady work, so I'm going to guess you can afford even some of these activities. Social skills are a muscle that atrophy the less you use them. Go. Meet people. Not all of them will be Your People. But you will find Your People. Enjoy being with them. See what opportunities, both social and romantic, life will put in your way if you go out and meet it on its terms. Wishing you the best of luck.

PS Scrupulously clean and deodorised and clothes clean. I hope I don't need to tell you this but I also want to remind you that women have a more sensitive sense of smell than dudes and we hate stinky men. Haaaaaate them. SMELL NICE AND WASH FREQUENTLY.
 
I think the justice system should be less strict about evidence when it comes to rape cases.

Definitely. They’re all predators who are looking to break down defenses and gain trust before striking. The absolute worst come from both sides and use leftist talking points as an excuse for their sex pestery. Like in my previous post where they get furious at another man for leaving the reservation and saying old dudes are creepy to prey on young women. They throw up that it ‘infantilizes’ women (very progressive of them lol). Despite their being MASSIVE Cognitive differences and life experiences between the early 20s and early 30s. Playing semantics about things like what grooming is, the exact date a person is now ‘mature’ enough to consent, are all ways that they can low key normalize their desire to prey on young women and then turn it around to blame the woman when she has enough sense to leave. As we see itt, men expect women to be strong and mature enough to consent to age gap relationships and babies with old pervs fresh out of high school, while they feel ‘too young and inexperienced’ to settle at even 30.

Any dude who uses an SJW type argument is never arguing in good faith, at least with trads you know upfront what you’re getting.

don't even bring up how most mainstream leftist ecelebs like vaush or roachanabi are literal proven sex preds.

I really like the idea of a left wing man. I don't like them in practice
nah fuck leftists in general. Especially "Marxist Feminists". You claim to be a feminist, but you're basing your politics off an insane jewish MAN! SAD!
 
So sick of the hypervigilance that comes with being a woman. sick of having to watch everything I say, everything I do. Sick of realizing that I journal like someone will find it after I die. Sick of having to pretend that trannies are women, that goids have it worse than women do. sick of having to accommodate moids to simply exist.
I hate being my own voyeur.

Gently, two things: a) that's a you thing, not a "being a woman" thing, and b) relatable, but yes, worth getting over it and just be you. Burn your journals after writing or a period of time if you truly think someone might...read and...think poorly of you (might be worth considering what exactly concerns you...not that I doubt you just sometimes the thought exercise can help get rid of whatever is nagging about it).

As far as self-censoring in your actual outward behavior - everyone should be aware of surroundings, and we all know there's time/place for different things. We've got to function in society, for the most part. But beyond that: there is nothing you need you do especially different or with more self-consciousness merely because you are a woman, no matter how it feels sometimes. Being a woman is not some iron chainmail you're doomed to lug around as a burden in every facet of life (despite there being societal/historical/variety of burdens unique to "woman," none of those and not even the unique bio/physical aspects of being a woman are anything that needs to overwhelm your life's experience and joy, nor erases how great being a woman is as a standalone thing).

Being a woman is fantastic! I love being a woman. But it's an integral part of my person-ness and self-ness, not a separate or "heavier" defining characteristic, separate from "who" I am.

If things like this are wearing you down, might be good to separate yourself from some of that "noise" (I mean mentally but first and especially physically/turn it off/remove the friction/negativity from your inputs).
 
Moid (whom I assume is a secret a&h scrote based on his use of "trooning out") abuses kitten for no reason other than it being female

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Hmm, Hattiesburg. That’s interesting. That by and large is Southern Baptist territory, which seems more in line with his views than Catholicism. And while the city has a big college (USM), it’s still very much MAGA country. I guess that makes some sort of sense as to why he moved there from California.
Hattiesburg is a mix of white Southern Baptists and black Southern Baptists with some sister wife looking Pentecostals mixed in. The city itself isn't really MAGA territory, it's more purplish. I don't know what you've heard about the SBC but I can promise you that they are not remotely on this bullshit that this dude is on. They would not even consider this man a Christian, either because he is Catholic or because he is clearly unhinged (which reason would vary from person to person with several people going with "both") I'm guessing you are thinking of Independent Baptists which is what most of the quiverfull people are.

There is a Catholic church in Hattiesburg but I used to know several congregants there (many years ago so I'll concede they could have had a weird trad takeover since then) and they were total normies so I doubt he'd much fit in with them either. They're still southerners and southerners don't like people who put on airs and walk aroung like a gay retard who thinks he's smarter than he is.

You can rest 100% assured that this man was more welcome in California than he is in Mississippi. He probably moved there because he is too poor to afford all those kids in CA and MS is dirt cheap to live in.
 
All the retards tipping their hands in the Dream thread arguing over age of consent is...well it's not blackpilling because I already knew a lot of gross Internet moids love "barely legal" aged girls, it's just sad to see.
Most rational people over 20 want to distance themselves from 17 year olds unless they know the 17 year olds personally.
 
Any moid who abuses animals should be put down like the feral animal they are. I’ve seen rabid dogs with more respect for the sanctity of life.
There’s a reason that childhood sadism towards animals is considered a serious psychological issue.

Whatever part of “masculinity“ involves hurting things that can’t defend themselves, let’s be clear: you don’t want any part of that shit. That’s wife and child beater shit. It is the reddest of flags.

Also a pinker but still red flag: rudeness to retail and service staff. Can’t take a moid with no courtesy anywhere.
 
Alright guys skip this one if you dont want to lose faith in a whole gender this whole thread is a counter point that need to posted as a rensponse you gonna die alone whenever a scrote tries to guilt you into lowering your standards ,

Women gives birth to stillborn drumroll the scrote immediatly leaves and abandons her because he cant do this , she has to deal with death of a child alone the comments arent even better stories of abandonment by sons and husbands

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To the nurse who held my hand after my stillbirth
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To nurse Kate at OSF, I know it’s your job, I know you were getting paid to be there, however you are the reason I’m alive right now. It’s been nearly 6 months and I haven’t forgotten what you did for me. The minute my son was born sleeping my soon to be ex husband let go and walked out of the room you were there. You stood up for me against the nurse who was trying to get me to hold my baby when I wasn’t ready. You heard me cry out for the man who helped me create my son and cried alongside me when we realized he wasn’t coming back in.
You never asked why I didn’t have anyone else to call or to be there with me. I’ve realized that when you tell someone you have no one it looks like you are the problem, that something is wrong with you if nobody cares about you. You made sure my entire hospital stay was away from the babies and gave me noise canceling headphones.
It might have been against hospital policy but you came back when I got discharged and helped me get to a motel. You stood beside me helping me hold the empty car seat and labor bag because I refused to leave it. You didn’t ask why a grown woman didn't have any money of my own. You set me up with the resources I needed for counseling. You told me hell had a basement and I was standing in it but that I didn’t have to stay there. Your kindness and support has kept me motivated. I started teaching again. Things still suck, living is hard, and people in my real life are continually showing me I don’t matter. Even though it was your job you showed me more love than anyone ever has.
That might sound pathetic and this might be a stupid post to some people because odds are you will never read this but, thank you.

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AstarteOfCaelius 47 points 4 hours ago

I actually got into hospice volunteering partially because of things like this- and I guess it would be easy to say “My god, people are absolute garbage” but, I guess I’ve been fortunate to see the ones who aren’t garbage countering this, too.
My MIL wasn’t in hospice yet, she was in the hospital and about to be- I stepped out of the room to get coffee and my god, all I could hear was this nurse talking to this guy but it was a tone. Like, they’re kind of off to the side and you could hear her, pleading with him- and I’m trying to mind my own business but, you could tell what was going on. She looked like she could break down or beat the guy’s ass- and I dunno how she didn’t.
So, the minding my own business part kinda flew out the window and I normally wouldn’t have but, the lady in that room- she could barely cry but I kinda played off of the busy nurses, peeked in, said I was heading to the gift shop, you know, would she want anything: I couldn’t think of anything else to say because I felt like I shouldn’t be there but somehow like I needed to be.
Guy was her son, he wasn’t coming back because the “situation was too depressing” and her husband bailed when it was clear the treatments weren’t working. Nurse was protective at first but then she was just kind of like telling me that this happens all the time. Like, sometimes people just dump their elderly and dying parents in the ER. She never told me anything specific about the patient- just, told me about hospice work. I didn’t stay too long, because MIL was in and out, so, I said I would pop back in with the flowers.
I wound up visiting like 3-4 people on the floor, my son actually did, too because a couple of them would mention grandkids they hadn’t seen in a long time.
They told me that a lot of people either don’t make it to hospice or can’t get a spot- and I don’t know if what I was doing got MIL bumped up, but I felt like a complete dick for that. (I’ve got some guilt shit) I mean I would have kept coming back anyway but I split a lot of time between the hospice and the hospital. Actually had a priest walk me through the application for a clergy badge- and that was a weirdly dystopian process. But I had a lot of support in doing it because a lot of people don’t do the things they should at the times they should do them the most.
I didn’t see very many stillbirths because that department is just quite a ways from the people I’m usually with- but, I did pray with a mother in the chapel once and the thing that absolutely gutted me, was she prayed for the husband who had abandoned her. Not for his return, she was praying that he wasn’t feeling the things she was. Nurses told me that happens quite a bit, too.
I honestly have absolutely no idea how these nurses do the work that they do- but I think they’re amazing. All I do is keep people company but, the things I have seen nurses fight for and encounter- on top of what has to be one of the more stressful jobs there is, it just floors me. I also know that they often get in trouble with the hospital systems for caring- essentially, and I could rant about that for an age, but really, I guess my point is that I’m glad whatever keeps the good ones going does.
OP, I am so heartened that you encountered one, too. You’ve gone through so much that…well, nobody should have to go through. I hope that you hold on, and I hope that the example you saw in her continues to counter the horrible. Please keep your head up. <3 There’s absolutely nothing pathetic about what you have been through or that you can keep sight of the good you experienced in the face of it- in fact, I think it’s beautiful and though you may not particularly want to have to be, it’s head and shoulders of strength above anyone who’d say otherwise.

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GivingItMyBest 17 points 3 hours ago

Sadly what you experianced does happen all the time. Many times as a healthcare and student nurse I sat with a dying patient so they weren't alone for various reasons. I hated working on an elderly ward also. I was on a female elderly ward for one of my placements. The horror stories I could tell you... I have NEVER been swore at down the phone before but on that ward family would constantly call up to bitch and complain and cuss you out. They never came to visit though, not once. it was mother's day when I was there and lots of cards, but no visitors. No phone calls. I travelled 8 hours to come visit my mum when she was in hospital for no reason other than she's my mum. Not even calling her on mothers day, while she's in hospital, just is not a thing for me. I was so heart broken for these ladies.

the thread knock yourself out for blackpills and post the biggest one you can find


 
I wonder how common moids ditching their wives after stillbirth and aborting wanted pregnancies for medical reasons are? Since there was that other thread about the moid who ditched his wide after she terminated for medical reasons, and I know moids are significantly more likely to ditch their wives if they get a serious illness.

Anyone else watch Let Us Prey, a docuseries about abuse in independent fundamentalist Baptist churches that's currently airing on ID? A good reminder of how irredeemably evil religious fundie moids are and how hyper patriarchal beliefs systems create the perfect environment for men to abuse women and girls (and get away with it).
 
This person has been popping in my youtube algorithm feed, so I gave this a watch.
Despite initially feeling like a leftie/male feminist type, he seems very level headed.

For those that want a quick tl;dw, it's a video about showing how lots "submissive trad wife" shit on TikTok is incredibly manufactured by """trad""" men to trap women in a relationship where only one person benefits, discusses how "trad" men are appalled by actual trad women who don't put men on a pedestal like their saccharine version of a trad woman does and how their idea of "trad relationship" is impossible.


He also has made a video about why female friendships are stronger than male, and
slams moids for putting the burden of "male loneliness" onto women for not wanting
to have sex with them.


I felt sharing these videos because lots of topics and talking points in this thread are brought up in these videos, and wanted to hear your opinions about it.
 
I haven’t been posting as much on here because I’m genuinely trying to get better and stop hating men because it makes my brain turn black and my heart evil and empty to hold this much unhinged hate in me at all times and I realized I need to chill tf out. but sometimes I see men say some disgusting fucking shit that makes me relapse and fall down the spiral again like today. I just wanna say I fucking hate faggots and their disgusting nasty aids ridden slang and culture they’re so nasty and subhuman and misogynistic and ugly and their deranged fuckimg loser faghag fanbase just coddles these filthy shitblasters no matter how degenerate they are. I’m trying my fuckimg best to let go of my biases towards everyone (except trannies I’ll hate them until I die) but how am I supposed to stop being homophobic when people of aids keep saying dumb shit like this
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first off you self hating fruitfly, women aren’t the “bottom” of fuckimg anything you retarded slut. Your unnatural way of sex and going spelunking inside of men’s hairy diseased infected assholes does not, will not, and cannot ever mimic natural real sex between a woman and a moid. Stop using your nasty faggoty misogynistic terms on real women you monkeypox infested typhoid johnnies. Fucking hate men so much.


sorry just needed to get that out
 
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