Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

I'm not sure if this occurring with men IRL (in my case it's rare), but one of the things I noticed with men online when it comes to online discussion is that they tend to correlate or jump to most exaggerated while also self-victimizing themselves in specific topics.

For example, if the topic is about the male loneliness, they instantly place the burden of that issue on women for not dropping everything and sleeping with men along with correlating loneliness with sex. When you tell them that maybe they should stop correlating things like that and if they feel lonely, that maybe they should start going to places with community where it's easy to meet new people, their answer will not be "Hmm maybe I should give it a shot", it's going to be:

"So you want me to be depressed and die alone??"

Another example I can think of is when you tell a /pol/tard or a very entitled dude that maybe he shouldn't be asking for a 10/10 big titty goth tomboy gf that will let him leash her while he plays Dark Souls or anyone out of his league, when they're probably an out of shape pale ass gremlin that doesn't take care of himself or just average at best. When told that maybe they shouldn't be so entitled when it comes to women and that they could try dating women that aren't 10/10 (in their standards), they will instantly go:

"So I guess I should just settle down with 36-year old roastie that has bunch of cats and watches Disney !!!!"

Which is ironic given how most of the time moids cry about how women are too harsh and don't want even consider dating mid men.
I think that men that aren’t complete dullards realize that they are to blame for their own issues, and don’t write dumb articles about male loneliness, or have pants on head retarded takes like that and don’t talk about it. They also know that it’s not productive to try to sway the opinion of those who do by arguing back. So it winds up looking like more men believe that nonsense than actually do. But then again I might be talking out of my ass and most men are that entitled.
 
Men love the idea of trad wives because it plays into their fantasy of the 1950s (before companies banned the hiring of straight white men) were they would have been don drapers, executives in pressed suits drinking whiskey in their offices after doing a great business.

Reality of course all these fucker farting into their gaming chairs would have been dynamite fodder for mining companies, hacking tar from their lungs by 40, leaving the legacy of a namesake OSHA regulation.
 
This is how A&H niggers sound to me
I hate caricatures like these because the way they lay it on as thick as possible makes the real thing seem more sympathetic by coming off as unfair. Especially the way he strung together "Jewish-British-Catholic homosexuals" like they're all the same entity to someone of this disposition.

They did the same thing to a feminist caricature in the second Red Dead game.

This came out around the time Sargon was basically the face of Youtube and when he was using sexual dimorphism as an argument against equality and you could feel the smug emanating off the screen, so there were at least half a dozen videos of people obsessively killing this feminist character out of angry spite.

You know for as lauded Rockstar games are for their writing, their political commentary is the most simpleton skeleton of a strawman you could imagine.
 
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I honestly don't see any difference in mindset between present day red-pill moids and the feminist SJW caricature from 2016.

1. Both think they're the main character because they were born with certain genitalia.
2. Both think that other members of their sex are morally perfect and factually correct, no matter what.
3. Both think that the opposite sex is satanically evil and must be subdued at all costs. Otherwise, the world is doomed and their sex will be destroyed.
4. Both think that sexual degeneracy is "freeing" and "natural for their sex".
5. Both become absurdly histrionic when criticized.
6. Both demand preferential treatment and slave-like submission from the opposite sex -- very similar to point 3, this is necessary to bring about utopia.

How very rational. How very masculine.
 
Men love the idea of trad wives because it plays into their fantasy of the 1950s (before companies banned the hiring of straight white men) were they would have been don drapers, executives in pressed suits drinking whiskey in their offices after doing a great business.

Reality of course all these fucker farting into their gaming chairs would have been dynamite fodder for mining companies, hacking tar from their lungs by 40, leaving the legacy of a namesake OSHA regulation.
You know what those types exactly remind me of? Those deluded modern larping antifa communists on Twitter who go on about "When the current system falls and my ideal communist regime rises I'll be [insert the highest position of power] or [something absolutely fucking retarded that doesn't exist in the caste system they push for such as a mental health guru or healing crystal medic].

Same level of delusion, just from a different side.

This came out around the time Sargon was basically the face of Youtube and when he was using sexual dimorphism as an argument against equality and you could feel the smug emanating off the screen, so there were at least half a dozen videos of people obsessively killing this feminist character out of angry spite.

You know for as lauded Rockstar games are for their writing, their political commentary is the most simpleton skeleton of a strawman you could imagine.
Remember when Soygon hyped himself as a "traditional skeptic anti-feminist" man that is against degeneracy only for that façade to fall off completely when he accidentally shown a facebook message from his wife asking him to stop flirting with tranny prostitutes? Those were fun times.

Not to derail the thread, but since you mentioned Rockstar
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I find really funny and convenient how moid mouth breathers who were calling GTA based for "making fun of everybody" (read: making fun of everybody but them) suddenly starting to point out holes in Rockstar's writing and how strawman it is, ever since GTA VI got unveiled and the possibility of them getting the turn on being clowned on? But then again these are the same pea brains that called Red Dead Redemption 2 "cucked" and Arthur a "soyboy" protagonist because he wasn't an edgy cowboy man that endorsed slavery and called black npcs niggers like they wanted him to.
 
I want to talk about something I mentioned in one of the Stinkditch threads (the comment was spergatoried), which is male-defined womanhood and how it affects trans people (TiMs and TiFs.)

Most people can agree that men have been the general deciders and people in charge for some time now. In media, you can see this in practice with the "male gaze"; when the camera takes on the POV of a man, and uses it to objectify or provide fanservice to a presumed male audience. There are many other ways that men get to define what women are, can do, our worth. And since men have dominated society for so long, by and large they define womanhood through art, literature, movies, culture, the law, vidya, etc.

I think many of the neuroses of trans people are a result of male-defined womanhood. It's no secret that TiMs frame themselves as being in a competition with cis women to be "better than women". The result is usually a drag caricature of what women are like, because TiMs are men, and they only know male defined womanhood. So the more they try to capture what they think womanhood is, the more the TiMs propogate male-defined womanhood by acting like psychotic bimbos.

TiFs have a different relationship to male-defined womanhood. Patriarchy has defined women in pretty stark terms: women are weak, the potential victim of male violence, objectified, commodified, incapable, always the distaff counterpart to the male main character. So a girl who finds herself failing to meet this definition of what women are, because she likes masculine-coded hobbies or because she isn't weak or incapable makes her question if she really is a woman at all. The glut of TRA crap online is catnip to TiFs because it preaches that you can transcend male-defined womanhood and become a man, with all the privileges that entails.

I also kind of think male-defined womanhood is the fountainhead for a lot of pick-mes. Pick-mes are women willing to throw other women under the bus in a bid to impress the men in their lives. They haven't totally given up on womanhood, but they want you to know they're not the standard kind of girl, the weak, incapable, fungible one, she's a cut above, has a unique trait, a Rare Pepe Girl. These pick-me women are trying to get a one-time pass to modify their womanhood so it can include some positive male-coded traits and eliminate negative female-coded ones.

Also it sucks that men are in a position to define what women are and what they can and cannot do. It goes all the way to the top with clueless lawmakers trying to regulate abortion when they don't know how women's bodies work. It also seeps to the bottom of the dogpile where the dogshit sexists are.
 
I want to talk about something I mentioned in one of the Stinkditch threads (the comment was spergatoried), which is male-defined womanhood and how it affects trans people (TiMs and TiFs.)
I read the whole exchange, I'm just gonna say 3 points about men who have this "Women/ feminism pushed for tranny shit and deserve it!" mindset that is especially parroted by certain posters on this forum:

1.These are the same people that get sperm cramps and go "NU-UH I DIDNT DO THAT! YOU SHOULDN'T PUT ME IN A BASKET LIKE THAT! I NEVER ASKED FOR THAT" when you point that women that butcher themselves through plastic surgery, do it to reflect the moid's idea of a perfect woman they got from porn or basically for anything with the possibility of being held accountable.

2.The cope "Even if there were women against trannies they didn't protest enough!" is fucking funny, let's say every woman on the planet decided to say fuck it and go full scorched Earth on trannies, do you know what would happen? Trannies would get support from spiteful men, because for every thing a woman protests against there will be a man that will absolutely start supporting things women are against out of pure spite or to "trigger da womenz", bonus if trannies start parrot the opinions they want to hear. Why do you think all manosphere/right-wing/conservative retards keep falling for grifting merchandise/brands that's all about "being trad" and "triggering the libs", and they only realize that maybe, that brand wasn't being sincere once they donated a hefty amount to a lobby that's against them.

3.Don't you find it interesting how certain men are so obsessed with seeing women punished/get schadenfreude in cruelest ways all because women, especially modern women don't want to comply to their traditional gender roles and seek to be more than baby makers? For all the talk how trad they are and how they are protectors, they sure glee when they see women, even mothers and young girls who don't even fuck with online politics getting harassed by trannies and muzzies, all because they are so spiteful and want to see women punished for not having to put with them. Actual trad men that deemed themselves protectors, would put their politics aside if they seen a woman in trouble. It's not about preserving traditional values, if men in the west really wanted to do that, they wouldn't be cheating on their wives and spend their time chasing the coom dragon, it's about punishing women for daring to defy them and being able to pick.

Anyways, thread tax
Women don't find redpill/manosphere moids attractive or appealing...shocking!
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Anyone else notice how in discussions about religious sex abuse, tradmoids try to turn the focus specifically on catholic priests molesting boys? Even if the discussion was about a completely different denomination.

They seem to do it to try and scapegoat religious CSA as being solely the fault of those dang dirty homos, since outside of catholics it's mostly girls who are abused in religious communities
 
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Anyone else notice how in discussions about religious sex abuse, tradmoids try to turn the focus specifically on catholic priests molesting boys? Even if the discussion was about a completely different denomination.

They seem to do it to try and scapegoat religious CSA as being solely the fault of those dang dirty homos, since outside of catholics it's mostly girls who are abused in religious communities
To be fair when they talk about CSA even outside of the religious they always blame gay men.
 
They seem to do it to try and scapegoat religious CSA as being solely the fault of those dang dirty homos, since outside of catholics it's mostly girls who are abused in religious communities
This is somewhat a misrepresentation of why men in general harp on the molestation of Catholic altar boys as much as they do. In my experience it's not so much about cherry-picking perpetrators as it is about cherry-picking victims.

Men of all stripes will, at any opportunity, attempt to paint their sex as either A) less dangerous or criminal than it is or B) as being victimized at an equal rate to women. If anyone mentions that 95% of rape victims are women and 99% of rapists are men, a moid will find a way to pull something out of his ass to deflect the blame from men. This can include:

- "Akshually there is a 2.1% rate of misreported rapes coming from women that are just trying to ruin men's futures"

- "Akshually check out this one news article from 2005 where a female teacher raped a male twelve-year-old. Checkmate."

- "Akshually boys get molested in the Catholic church all the time, so stfu about girls getting assaulted, you're not special"

If you want to focus on CSA in religious communities specifically, I think the Catholic church business is at the forefront of public consciousness because it gets vastly more media coverage in the West than anything else (which I believe is, again, due to the fact that the victims are male. This is either man-bites-dog syndrome or standard male self-centeredness.)
 
This is somewhat a misrepresentation of why men in general harp on the molestation of Catholic altar boys as much as they do. In my experience it's not so much about cherry-picking perpetrators as it is about cherry-picking victims.

Men of all stripes will, at any opportunity, attempt to paint their sex as either A) less dangerous or criminal than it is or B) as being victimized at an equal rate to women. If anyone mentions that 95% of rape victims are women and 99% of rapists are men, a moid will find a way to pull something out of his ass to deflect the blame from men. This can include:

- "Akshually there is a 2.1% rate of misreported rapes coming from women that are just trying to ruin men's futures"

- "Akshually check out this one news article from 2005 where a female teacher raped a male twelve-year-old. Checkmate."

- "Akshually boys get molested in the Catholic church all the time, so stfu about girls getting assaulted, you're not special"

If you want to focus on CSA in religious communities specifically, I think the Catholic church business is at the forefront of public consciousness because it gets vastly more media coverage in the West than anything else (which I believe is, again, due to the fact that the victims are male. This is either man-bites-dog syndrome or standard male self-centeredness.)
try talking about female genital mutilation I dare you . The screeching is worse than a man pulling his dick out on feminist protest . All in unison " WHAT ABOUT CIRCUMSIION " " MUH FORESKIN "
 
try talking about female genital mutilation I dare you . The screeching is worse than a man pulling his dick out on feminist protest . All in unison " WHAT ABOUT CIRCUMSIION " " MUH FORESKIN "
Even though to be compatible to FGM, circumcision would be cutting off the entire head of the penis.

I'm not a huge fan of any cosmetic surgery on the genitals of infants, but removing some skin is a great deal less serious than removing the entire clitoris.
 
Ugh, men. So stupid.

Also, what's with the phenomenon with so-called manly-men having baby faces? Not only do they act like children, they look like them, too. It's literally repulsive, no wonder they complain so much about never getting laid lol

Women don't want to fuck you because you're a weakass dead end; ovaries shrink just like testicles when women sense gross inadequacy. Nice when biology does work! Hilarious when men can't accept their insufficiency and in general being subpar human beings.
 
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Moids that are into Asian/Latina women because they think they’re more “submissive” clearly haven’t been around them long enough to know it isn’t true. I’m curious as to how many moids got the wrong idea on what ethnic women are like from this meme:
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Also, I like how it makes the white woman being the one to cuck her husband for a black guy. If I didn’t know any better, I’d think this meme was a psyop to get trad moids into the idea of interracial being fine, despite a bunch of alarmism coming from this same group on how white people will go extinct if they don’t impregnate teens.
LMAO every Latina and Asian woman I've ever known is a complete rage case in relationships.

Anyway, tradtards only care about interracial relationships when the woman is white.
I've got some moid insight on this Latina/Asian debacle. Take it for what it's worth. What I've noticed in common from both "trad" Latinas or some "trad" Asians willing to date other races is the following. They usually have a game plan for having a family. And a strict one. They will not be afraid to do things like caring about a baby, cooking for you or your friends, cleaning, etc... but you better be pulling your weight as a man, and not only economically.

If you are the "only thing I bring to a relationship is a paycheck" moid then yeah they will fly into a rage because of the unjust circumstance. You better also be a good dad, actively caring, protecting and wanting the best for the kids and her. The relationships I've seen that worked the best was one where the woman did do a lot of "trad" things, but so did the man, and in an equal way. They will chauffeur, do physically demanding house and child tasks, protect the security of the family, paint and fix homes, take care of the mother when she's sick, work for that bread, etc... And mostly, really, love the family as a unit that needs work from both parts in many ways.
 
"Even if there were women against trannies they didn't protest enough!" is fucking funny, let's say every woman on the planet decided to say fuck it and go full scorched Earth on trannies, do you know what would happen? Trannies would get support from spiteful men, because for every thing a woman protests against there will be a man that will absolutely start supporting things women are against out of pure spite or to "trigger da womenz", bonus if trannies start parrot the opinions they want to hear.
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Yeah, it's depressing, like watching a weird pantomime. Men thirsting over other men who are altered to resemble women, with the audience men claiming that "she" represents femininity better than actual women do because trannies like it when you catcall them (cause it's "validating and euphoric")

It's like men telling men how women are, how women should be. Male-defined womanhood in its purest form...
Don't you find it interesting how certain men are so obsessed with seeing women punished/get schadenfreude in cruelest ways all because women, especially modern women don't want to comply to their traditional gender roles and seek to be more than baby makers?
TBH these kind of moids slide effortlessly between empty egg carton memes and screeching at childless women for ruining society and mocking mothers as being economic dead weight, fat, unattractive, unintelligent, etc... seriously. The classic double bind; they will hate women whether they have kids or not.
when you point that women that butcher themselves through plastic surgery, do it to reflect the moid's idea of a perfect woman they got from porn
To be fair, these men are so oblivious that they think women are applying makeup to try and "trick" them into being attracted to them. (They will also say that wearing sexy/attractive clothing amounts to women "controlling" men with their butt power.) Which just raises questions for me...
1. Man, did you really think women have naturally colored eyelids?
2. If you do know that makeup exists and what it does, then how is this woman tricking you? Bizarre.

And yet, somehow these guys can aggressively promulgate their sexist bullshit without actually noticing it? At least they pretend not to notice it, gaslight women when they notice it, and deny that sexism ever existed, and you don't know how good you have it, you stupid crazy bitch!
try talking about female genital mutilation I dare you . The screeching is worse than a man pulling his dick out on feminist protest . All in unison " WHAT ABOUT CIRCUMSIION " " MUH FORESKIN "
NGL I know this would be a low blow to troll them over, but I want to show the men who whine about this a plate of crispy pork bungholes (it's an Asian dish) and claim it's fried male neonatal foreskins with hoisin dipping sauce.

What I've noticed in common from both "trad" Latinas or some "trad" Asians willing to date other races is the following. They usually have a game plan for having a family. And a strict one. They will not be afraid to do things like caring about a baby, cooking for you or your friends, cleaning, etc... but you better be pulling your weight as a man, and not only economically.
I mentioned before that the trad Asian waifu (or at least the trad Chinese waifu) is hardly the fainting violet that entitled white sperglords envision. Yes, she can cook you dumplings, but she also expects her man to woo her with suitable bridal gifts, like a car and a house. And it's also customary for the man to hand over his paycheck every week to their wife's account, because Chinese tradwives are the de facto family accountant and bookkeeper. Also, being scolded by Chinese women is like being attacked by chickens in Zelda. So it's hardly the misogynistic Confucian utopia that white Western guys envision.
 
Men hate when you bring up sexual assault in general as a topic. The reason is threefold: it's something almost exclusively committed by men, it's almost exclusively perpetuated against women, and it happens a lot. This means that almost anyone knows someone who was either assaulted or the assaulter. Even men who will admit that SA is a very real threat for women will shift uncomfortably when you point out they probably know a guy who's at least a sex pest if not a full blown predator.

Are there men who are sexually assaulted? Yes of course. Are they less likely to report? Yes it seems so. Why? Because of a stigma against men who report sexual assault, which comes from other men.

Women are almost always the victims of SA, and men are almost always the perpetuators of SA, and a lot of men are assaulting women. These facts make any man uncomfortable.
 
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