Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

Men want to control women's libidos
I never understood why some moids either see women as human pets or as beasts to tame for their sexual pleasure a la pick-up artistry.

"So you see, women don't want a "nice guy" or a "man who will love them regardless of how bad it gets" What they actually want in their innate female brain chemistry is to submit to men. You can subliminally trick them into submitting to you by secreting pheromones all over her. The most effective way to do this is to not shower and not brush your teeth. This will help to create a very pungent aroma of your pheromones, and if you break out or get an infection, it will only secrete more pheromones and make her more attracted to you"
 
The context makes it worse IMO
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My husband [M26] sent me [F26] an immature, inflammatory email as I was driving to the airport for a 10-day work trip. Now he has cut contact.

**TL;DR - My husband [M26] sent a rude, argumentative email as I [F26] was on the way to the airport for a 10-day work trip. It's been 24hrs and he has responded to any of my texts or calls.**

My husband [M26] and I [F26] have been together for 5 years, married for 2 of those years. We just bought a house 5 months ago. No kids yet. Our lives have been crazy busy though. We spent all spring renovating our new house. At my job I was given nearly double my usual workload after some of my colleagues were laid off. I gained some weight in the winter and have been busting my ass at the gym to get rid of it.


Yesterday morning, while in a taxi on the way to the airport, Husband sends a message to my work email which is connected to my phone. He's **never** done this, we always communicate in person or by text. I open it up, and it's a sarcastic diatribe basically saying he won't miss me for the 10 days I'm gone. Attached is a SPREADSHEET of all the times he has tried to initiate sex since June 1st, with a column for my "excuses", using verbatim quotes of why I didn't feel like having sex at that very moment. According to his 'document', we've only had sex 3 times in the last 7 weeks, out of 27 "attempts" on his part.


This is a side of him I have **never** seen before - bitter, immature, full of hatred. In person, he'd been acting normal the whole time, maybe *a little* standoff-ish in the last week. Completely out of left field. Our sex life HAS tapered in the last few months, but isn't that allowed? We are adults leading busy, stressful lives. I cook for him, I do his laundry, I keep our house clean and tidy. It's not like our sex life was going to be this way FOREVER, it was a temporary slow-down due to extenuating circumstances.


I immediately tried phoning him 3-4 times before getting on the plane - no answer. When I landed in my destination city, I tried calling 2 more times - no answer. I texted him saying we needed to talk, and he needed to call me at his earliest convenience. No response. He's never intentionally ignored my communications before. I pretty much stayed inside my hotel all evening waiting by the phone, then cried myself to sleep.


It's now morning and he still hasn't contacted me. I am supposed to be out visiting clients for the next 9 days on behalf of my company, and I am an emotional wreck. Why is he putting me through this? What the hell am I supposed to do?

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The context makes it worse IMO
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My husband [M26] sent me [F26] an immature, inflammatory email as I was driving to the airport for a 10-day work trip. Now he has cut contact.

**TL;DR - My husband [M26] sent a rude, argumentative email as I [F26] was on the way to the airport for a 10-day work trip. It's been 24hrs and he has responded to any of my texts or calls.**

My husband [M26] and I [F26] have been together for 5 years, married for 2 of those years. We just bought a house 5 months ago. No kids yet. Our lives have been crazy busy though. We spent all spring renovating our new house. At my job I was given nearly double my usual workload after some of my colleagues were laid off. I gained some weight in the winter and have been busting my ass at the gym to get rid of it.


Yesterday morning, while in a taxi on the way to the airport, Husband sends a message to my work email which is connected to my phone. He's **never** done this, we always communicate in person or by text. I open it up, and it's a sarcastic diatribe basically saying he won't miss me for the 10 days I'm gone. Attached is a SPREADSHEET of all the times he has tried to initiate sex since June 1st, with a column for my "excuses", using verbatim quotes of why I didn't feel like having sex at that very moment. According to his 'document', we've only had sex 3 times in the last 7 weeks, out of 27 "attempts" on his part.


This is a side of him I have **never** seen before - bitter, immature, full of hatred. In person, he'd been acting normal the whole time, maybe *a little* standoff-ish in the last week. Completely out of left field. Our sex life HAS tapered in the last few months, but isn't that allowed? We are adults leading busy, stressful lives. I cook for him, I do his laundry, I keep our house clean and tidy. It's not like our sex life was going to be this way FOREVER, it was a temporary slow-down due to extenuating circumstances.


I immediately tried phoning him 3-4 times before getting on the plane - no answer. When I landed in my destination city, I tried calling 2 more times - no answer. I texted him saying we needed to talk, and he needed to call me at his earliest convenience. No response. He's never intentionally ignored my communications before. I pretty much stayed inside my hotel all evening waiting by the phone, then cried myself to sleep.


It's now morning and he still hasn't contacted me. I am supposed to be out visiting clients for the next 9 days on behalf of my company, and I am an emotional wreck. Why is he putting me through this? What the hell am I supposed to do?
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Every single one of those commenters needs to be thrown feet first into a volcano.

Well you see, your sex deprived ape was upset and him trying to sabotage your employment by sending a spreadsheet with the word SEX in it, therefore potentially triggering HR to review it and causing reprimand and immense humiliation at the workplace, is just his poor UWU sad man's cry for help over not getting enough cummies.

I hope she has divorce papers ready to go on her return.

I'm still a bit tender from yesterday.

This pos guaranteed does no foreplay and she hasn't had an orgasm in months, if ever.
 
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The comments are unbelievable. No wonder dead bedrooms happen so much when all these men act like entitled manchildren who stop their feet when they don't get what they want all of the time. Who the fuck is attracted to that? I imagine nothing kills your sex drive more than a man who thinks it's your "wifely duty" to satisfy him. You make it sound like a chore and she will see it as a chore. I feel like it's not that hard to maintain your wife's sexual interest in you if you just keep treating her with love and respect and like a person instead of a bangmaid.

Also yeah no doubt this man has never once given her an orgasm or she would definitely be more interested in doing it even after a stressful day.
 
Father of teen daughter watches teen porn. Pick-me wife has "tried everything" even watching porn with him and being a total cool girl! Why does he still violate the very few boundaries she's set?! Because he gets off on it.

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"Am I the one who is wrong? Am I the one who needs therapy?!"
 
Father of teen daughter watches teen porn. Pick-me wife has "tried everything" even watching porn with him and being a total cool girl! Why does he still violate the very few boundaries she's set?! Because he gets off on it.

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"Am I the one who is wrong? Am I the one who needs therapy?!"
Literally like American Beauty, except if given the actual opportunity to have sex with a teen, the average middle aged coomer won't snap back to reality at the last minute and decline to have sex with a kid.
 
Father of teen daughter watches teen porn. Pick-me wife has "tried everything" even watching porn with him and being a total cool girl! Why does he still violate the very few boundaries she's set?! Because he gets off on it.

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"Am I the one who is wrong? Am I the one who needs therapy?!"
when will she realise what he is? Is she waiting until he rapes the kids or what? She is completely in denial.
 
when will she realise what he is? Is she waiting until he rapes the kids or what? She is completely in denial.
There has been a worldwide effort to normalize porn and gaslight women into thinking we are the crazy ones if we're not okay with our partners watching it. She seems to have fallen for the whole "If you don't like that he's watching porn then you're just an insecure prude trying to control him" thing men are trying to get women to believe. Also being together with someone for so long and having 5 kids no doubt is a very hard situation to leave, especially because he WILL tell everyone that she "ruined our family over her jealousy/insecurity. She snooped through my PRIVATE history and got upset that I am looking at other women because she is soooooo controlling, I was basically living in a prison". So she will be the villain in everyone's eyes.
 
Father of teen daughter watches teen porn. Pick-me wife has "tried everything" even watching porn with him and being a total cool girl! Why does he still violate the very few boundaries she's set?! Because he gets off on it.

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"Am I the one who is wrong? Am I the one who needs therapy?!"

Imagine being with a man for 24 years, have 5 kids with him, yet somehow unable to shake the label of "damaged goods" following a rape you suffered at age 12.

I wonder what who could make her feel that label still applies. :thinking:
 
when will she realise what he is? Is she waiting until he rapes the kids or what? She is completely in denial.

There was a post by a former pick me woman on the pornismisogyny subreddit where the woman said she did everything (anorexia, blonde hair extensions, breast implants, kinky sex on demand etc) that men want….

And yet she still found her husband jerking it to his teen daughter’s friends’ instagrams.
 
There was a post by a former pick me woman on the pornismisogyny subreddit where the woman said she did everything (anorexia, blonde hair extensions, breast implants, kinky sex on demand etc) that men want….

And yet she still found her husband jerking it to his teen daughter’s friends’ instagrams.
Yeah I also saw a reddit post on /r/askmen where someone asked if men were attracted to their own teen daughters and most men denied it but they ALL said that were attracted to their daughters friends. So yeah that's definitely a nightmare that will put you off marriage and kids.
 
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I have trouble objectively reading my own words, but hopefully I fixed that post. It's definitely going to get quoted in one of the women-hate threads lol.

Which makes me think we should replace many of the male posters here with dogs, too. Or better yet cats, who are very good at stepping on keyboards, and would still be more coherent then like 60% of A&Hers.

Thread tax: 2 bad takes

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I want to say how much people would be actually surprised to learn how much muzzie men are actually depraved coomers who hide behind the facade of larping as morally and spiritually disciplined men of faith that are above western degeneracy, but in this thread that's not surprising at all.

I heard plenty of stories from people who work in the tourist industry, how many rich Saudi men that fancy themselves as men of faith the moment they step foot here, they instantly start asking people who organize their vacations for the best wine and haram food, also best clubbing hotspots where hot women hang out. At "best" they are just young coddled sons of Saudi moguls, at worst they are actually married men who take their wife and children with them but they organize their vacations separately, where wife and children are on their own while the man goes to larp as a Saudi Arabian Balldo man.

For the second take, I find it funny how so many "comic experts" who are stuck up their own ass call this movie as an attempt to "genderswap" Spider-man when if you google Madame Web's character, it's stated that her character existed since 1980. If a woman mistook her character as that you'd have same people crawling out of the woodworks calling that woman a poser/tourist/fake-fan for not being able distinguish that.

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Also isn't it peculiar how when women ask for female characters that could be role models to young girls, they are called entitled feminazis that want to co-opt things and they are pointed to existing female characters that could be role models, despite sometimes not being fleshed out as their male counterparts but when allegedly young boys don't have male characters that could serve as role models, suddenly it's "concering" and "an issue", nevermind the fact that young boys have a catalogue of media with male characters that could serve as role models, the world is their oyster.

Also isn't it peculiar how when writers want to make existing female characters that moids point to women as a response when they ask more relatable female characters, actually relatable and appealing to women and girls, moids instantly chimp out?

Which brings me to my next point...
You know how all those moids online like to whine about wokeshit involving women overtaking their precious entertainment? Of course you do, you're on Kiwi Farms, if you move two feet, you trip over a hundred braindead threads about it. Moids have had whole "gates" about it. Well, here's a bit of reality about just how many women are "ruining" movies by existing.

Study shows ‘catastrophic’ 10-year low for female representation in film

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That's right, 51% of the population only gets 30% of the leads or co-leads. For all the crying moids do about "overrepresentation" they over represent, by far.
..This might sound bit of a schizo theory but, I wouldn't be surprised if from 10 years from now we learn that modern Hollywood and industries connected (such as video games) to it were deliberately sabotaging movies and other media with female leads by underfunding, having really incompetent out-of-touch Californian Disney adults write the scripts and female characters, basically making those movies and other medias completely unappealing to everybody, including their supposed target audience on purpose that result in that said media ending up flopping, so Hollywood executives and others related to them simply say:

"Well we TRIED appealing to female audience but they weren't interested in it for some reason (wink wink), let's not focus on that anymore, and continue producing moidslop and media that appeals to men"

Despite that being entirely incorrect when women to this day find characters such as Ellen Ripley, Sarah Connor and many other 80s movie female leading protagonists super appealing.
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Very good points. Only in the last couple of years have men started to pretend like they aren't the ones afraid of commitment who always end up resenting their nagging wife. Like it's not men who need to go to strip-clubs for their bachelor party to mourn the loss of their "freedom" where their friends commiserate with them that they now have to sleep with the same old boring woman forever. Who are afraid of being "babytrapped" by a crazy woman who pokes holes in condoms. Who string along women for years with promise of marriage and babies "some day". Who all wish they could be Hugh Heffner or DiCaprio style billionaire playboys who get to bang a new supermodel every week. Suddenly all men are tradcaths who are just looking for a nice virgin to give them 9 children? Yeah right. It's just them panicking because women are going "alright then, I don't want to get married either".
I think another point worth mentioning is how through 80s to late 2000s aside from women being depicted as unhinged babytrappers that want to keep da man down through evil marriage, there was this specific types of media especially in movies that probably played a part in making present day moids that spout incel opinions extremely entitled.

There were two specific premises that we'd see, the first one goes something like this:

-A man is an average schmuck down on his luck, he has a female friend who is head over heels for him but he doesn't reciprocate because she's an average girl next door or "lol weirdo eccentric kooky freak" whom he constantly turns down, where the woman he pines for is beautiful out-of-league strong and independent woman, eventually through some luck the man manages to date the girl he wants but he realizes that she's not what she seems and eventually through some ~~epiphany~~ realizes he actually loves the average girl next door or the weirdo girl, who is basically just there waiting for him and more than willing to take him.

-The manic pixie dream girl premise, where an average schmuck down on his luck has an eccentric but still very traditionally feminine woman appear out of nowhere and fix his life for the better. She usually appears after the man has gets turned down by the woman of his dreams or breaks up with his current partner.

But both of these have the theme of there always being a cushion fall for these types of dudes.

So what do you get when you have moids that have been spoon fed this type of slop for years, who think they can spend their bachelor years dragging women they consider less attractive or average by the nose promising them that they'll eventually become something ala Dick Masterson style, but then proceed chase or date "more attractive and fun" women that they feel they're entitled to them, because they are under a belief that once they're ready to settle down, all of these other average women they put on hold will be their cushion fall and eagerly await for them;

Only to have a rude awakening with the realization that all those women they considered less-worthy are not gonna be their cushion fall, play their retarded games, not marry/date or date somebody that doesn't view them as a compensation price but views them as an equal?

You get bunch of bitter moids larping as born again tradcucks projecting their own fuck-ups on women that are content with being single and pretending "Oh we men actually wanted marriage ALWAYS akshually, it's really just those pesky jezebel women that ride the cock carousel are the ones that don't wanna settle down". Nah, play stupid games and win stupid prices, retard.
 
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I have to run to work, but when I get back, I'll see if I can find that tweet praising male "kings" like Keanu Reeves.... because they didn't wind up on Epsteins flight list. Congrats! They didn't rape women! Not being a rapist is kind of, you know, something a man is supposed to do.
As an aside, right wing moids don't care about the epstein case because they're anti rape or pro woman, they care because DA JOOS
 
Also yeah no doubt this man has never once given her an orgasm or she would definitely be more interested in doing it even after a stressful day.
exactly, having sex with a man she is meant to be attracted to feels like a chore and is less interesting than watching a TV show, and somehow according these moids that's HER fault?? Maybe she would want to do it more if you actually made it enjoyable for her?
 
exactly, having sex with a man she is meant to be attracted to feels like a chore and is less interesting than watching a TV show, and somehow according these moids that's HER fault?? Maybe she would want to do it more if you actually made it enjoyable for her?
I bet she wouldn't turn down a back or foot massage from him despite being sweaty from the gym or tired, that's because she would actually enjoy that, while he made sex into a chore for her.
 
This might sound bit of a schizo theory but, I wouldn't be surprised if from 10 years from now we learn that modern Hollywood and industries connected (such as video games) to it were deliberately sabotaging movies and other media with female leads by underfunding, having really incompetent out-of-touch Californian Disney adults write the scripts and female characters, basically making those movies and other medias completely unappealing to everybody
Well Hollywood has always been agenda driven but it did use to entertain more than preach. I think the problem is that the preaching has taken precedence over the story. Films are a way of telling stories. If the story is good, it’ll have good characters. The rest flows from the story.
There were great female leads decades back. alien, anyone? The story was good, and the design, world building, character terms etc were too - all things that flow from a story-driven film.
Nowadays the main drive of a film is The Message, which isn’t the same as the story. So female leads are written in as Mary Sue types, without a good story, and the film is shit. It’s there to preach at you not entertain you. It will always fall flat because nobody wants that.
Compare films like alien, or Fargo, with the modern crop.
 
Compare films like alien, or Fargo, with the modern crop.

You can’t just say, “compare two of the greatest outlier films of all time to any random film that comes out today.” Alien and Fargo are anomalies. There was never a wide array of movies with strong female leads. The vast majority of films have always been trash.

The main drive of a film nowadays is product placement, Chinese market fit, franchise tie-in, and easy script translation.
 
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