Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[Freya]

I feel like any thread remotely positive about women becomes that way, because moids are like troons, and don’t like it when women want to be left alone. They cope by saying all women participating in those threads are: fat, lonely, or cat ladies, possibly all the above. I find the lonely insult weird, because in moidspeak, they frame it in the context of women feeling that way because they don’t have a guy in their life. That isn’t really the case though when said women are just wanting to vent and are not actively seeking out men.

it's so weird, like who cares if theres a single thread not about you?

 

[Lidl Drip]

 

[Inside your walls]

They cope by saying all women participating in those threads are: fat, lonely, or cat ladies, possibly all the above.

There's something incredibly ironic how moids will call threads exclusively for women "fat lonely cat lady gathering" and then under the same breathe, go to the lewd images thread on KF where the thread is nothing but art of almost naked or straight NSFW anime and video game women.

The whole thread is them basically e-circlejerking and showing shit they goon off to. If women had a similar thread, dedicated to posting pictures of handsome men (whether it's from real life or from media), that thread would be instantly brigaded by moids trying to humiliate women for what they been doing in their thread or think they have some "gotcha" if they say "Hmmm curious you have no issues sexualizing men but you complain about men sexualizing women!" never mind that, usually the difference between what women fantasize about men vs. what men fantasize about women is day and night.

When women are lonely, they get a cat, grow plants, contribute to their local community, and generally make the world a nicer place.

When men are lonely BILLIONS MUST DIE.

That's why I find it very stupid when people REALLY REALLY try to push the whole "femcel" concept into being a thing.
First of all, there is already a term for "femcels", it's called being a mentally ill woman and secondly, the difference
between "femcels" and incels is that "femcels" didn't shoot up places and kill people multiple times.

To try and say some mentally ill woman that's stuck in her room making edits of Hello Kitty or some cutesy character taking Zoloft while browsing girlie sites/spheres where she shit talks men, is the same as a man that decided to shoot up a place because , pardon my language, he didn't get compensation pussy that below average men were given back in the day is very idiotic.

But I think they want to push the concept of a "femcel" so badly, because prior to them trying and gushing about their very moided idea of these femcels, they were gushing about "mentally ill/BPD pussy" but maybe they realized they sounded like massive hypocrites.

Because for one post they would make where they talked how they want to have sex with a mentally ill girl, there would be another
shitting on these so-called life ruining "BPD whores". They just want to bone a mentally ill woman but without sounding like hypocrites and looking like gross manipulators that specifically look for mentally vulnerable and easily manipulated women.

Moids don’t seem to get how much sacrifice is involved on the woman’s end with dating and relationships, as women usually take on more housework that goes unpaid and unnoticed, and will have a pay cut if kids happen, as women are still the ones to primarily take on fewer work hours to accommodate raising children. The moid will always feel entitled to a relationship, whereas the man won’t try to force it and is content being single, thus not succumbing to the Male Loneliness Epidemic™.

I think lots of moids now really, really hate the fact that:

Firstly, that women aren't dating them not because they feel intense hatred for them, but they have ask themselves so many questions such as "How much will I have to sacrifice? How much of my goals and ambitions I wanted to do will have to be put back in the background because I have to consider a man in this picture? What if straight-up askes me to give up some things entirely? Is he going to ask me to change my lifestyle that has been a core my entire life? Will if he doesn't give back? What if he takes me for granted?" and overall feel it's not really worth dating a man, at least right now;

Secondly, with women able to speak up now, they are pointing out how many relationships we're one-sided in terms of who gets to be uplifted, reap the benefits and how much women usually were the ones to sacrifice many things so the man can be uplifted. They especially really, really hate the fact that, many women are pointing out how many of these relationships were like this, even in back in the "good ol' days" that men romanticize about and assumed that women were being content with how much things they have to sacrifice, just because they didn't voice their complaints and issues with it, despite not being able to. They're upset that the veil of so-called blissful ignorance has been lifted.

"But women earn "respect" by being mothers and wives!" moids might say, but they fail to understand that's like telling an artist that you won't pay them for their work with money but with ✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:*exposure✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:*. Sure the moid's idea of respect is nice, but does respect put money on the table? Does it improve the living situation? What happens if the husband dies or leaves the wife and their children for a younger mistress? Will that respect feed them and provide for them? Plus respect can be taken away in a heartbeat from that woman if she does something the man is not happy with, so it really means nothing in this type situation. Respect can only function, if its mutual and deep, where both party feel rewarded.

 

[grenouille crétine]

I for once would be happy just the red pillers, incels and assorted ilk drop dead oh and rapists and domestic abusers and deadbeat dads. Everything else is fine .

95% it is! (I jest)

I do stand by the 50-75% figure though. Way too many men get away with being repulsive two-faced misogynists their whole lives, and many don’t even have to hide it. It’s been said before, but I don’t think a man with a healthy ego and base respect for his partner would be surprised or upset to see her posting here, bc he is not stupid or insecure enough to align himself with pond scum by virtue of them both being male. Whereas a woman seeing the sort of shit males post about their partners/women as a collective would feel very betrayed. (Forgot to mention I saw one of the mods telling them not to post porn ITT LMAO). You are an idiot ie probably male if you can’t see the difference between “wow a lot of males hurt women/children/each other and a lot of males defend or see nothing wrong with that behavior, pretty fucked up” and “women are retarded annoying subhumans and I want them all to shut up and be sex slaves, I hate them but also pussy pussy pussy, god I hate them so much (pussy tits and pussy)”. I must have missed all the pages of femcels seething about wanting dick here. Oh wait.

Because for one post they would make where they talked how they want to have sex with a mentally ill girl, there would be another
shitting on these so-called life ruining "BPD whores". They just want to bone a mentally ill woman but without sounding like hypocrites and looking like gross manipulators that specifically look for mentally vulnerable and easily manipulated women.

Yeah lol the hypocrisy there is pretty astounding. “Don’t stick your dick in crazy”, but they do anyway, because she is there and easy. Having encountered a BPD-type or two, sure they might just be assholes with no self-awareness, but it’s a very sad condition that almost always seems to be caused by abuse and trauma. Untreated mental illness is a perfectly valid reason to leave a relationship, but is it really a “relationship” these guys want, or just sex and a maid? Because if it were the former, you’d think it would be worthwhile to try to help your partner instead of just dumping her and writing her off as crazy. You can’t fix people and knowing when to walk away is healthy, but knowing how many men abandon their wives going through cancer treatments and the like, seems safe to assume most are just annoyed that their sentient fleshlight is crying.

 

[JambledUpWords]

I can’t emphasize this enough: even while in a relationship, don’t give up on things like education, training, or skills to please a man. Kids often fare better with women that are well educated too. If something happens to your husband, such as major illness, premature death, or getting laid off, you want to at least be capable of getting or already have a job that can partially for fully compensate in those scenarios. If you get divorced, have young kids, and not much in your resume to speak of due to being pressured to drop out of school or work, you’ll financially suffer more than a woman with a longer work history and education background. Sadly, the job market can be very cruel to mothers in general, as you’ll inevitably have a gap or two in the work history because you were busy investing in and raising decent kids. These are the sacrifices that moids don’t think about on the women’s end when it comes to dating and relationships.

 

[Trig.Point]

If you ever want see a case of how the media likes to portray men and ESPECIALLY black men as victims, look no further than the case of the Scissor Sisters here in Ireland.

Now when this infamous case first aired on the news in 2005, the narrative was that two white Irish women (Linda and Charlotte Mulhall) brutally killed a poor innocent African man (Farah Swaleh Noor). Partly true. They did indeed brutally kill him. They chopped off his dick, carried around his head in a handbag and dumped his other body parts in a river.

However what the media largely omitted was that Farah was a serial rapist piece of shit that raped a disabled 16 year old who was forced to carry his baby to term. He then raped other women who also had his rape babies and sexually assaulted another women with a knife. He served no jail time for any of these crimes and was even granted Irish citizenship instead of being deported (fuck this country). He's also one of the suspects in the unsolved murder of Raonaid Murray because he allegedly told the Mulhall's mother Kathleen "I'm going to fucking kill you, just like I did with Raonaid Murray".

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The only thing the news said against Farah Swaleh Noor at the time was that he was "allegedly" abusing the sister's mother and "allegedly" tried to sexually assault one of the sisters before they murdered him. Even today this case is often referenced by Irish leftists as some sort of gotcha about Irish violence against migrants when they are shown much more numerous examples of the inverse.

So to sum it up, give these women a fucking medal.

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It's a scandal that Charlotte Mulhall is still in jail. Or that Linda served 12 years of a 15 year sentence. Other than terrorism or 'high profile' cases few prisoners serve any more than half their sentence in Ireland.

I remember the case when it was happening, and it was the foreign media reporting that really fucked them over. Because the Irish courts do not like getting scrutiny from any media outlet they can't casually silence with a court order.

In any other murder case it was likely that an irish court would never have allowed how they had tried to dispose of the body as an aggravating factor, and they should have been allowed to claim self defence. The whole court case seemed like a piece of theatre where the Judge prosecution and defense barrister had a chat in a tea room and worked out how the case was going to go, which is a feature of the Irish Justice system.

Incidentally if anyone wants to go down a rabbit hole google the judge in the case Justice Paul Carney, and include 'rape cases' in your search. The best sources are foreign outlets and social outlets, but at time even the Irish media felt the need to go WTF at some of his decisions.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

"But women earn "respect" by being mothers and wives!" moids might say, but they fail to understand that's like telling an artist that you won't pay them for their work with money but with ✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:*exposure✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:*. Sure the moid's idea of respect is nice, but does respect put money on the table? Does it improve the living situation? What happens if the husband dies or leaves the wife and their children for a younger mistress? Will that respect feed them and provide for them? Plus respect can be taken away in a heartbeat from that woman if she does something the man is not happy with, so it really means nothing in this type situation.

The incel mind is a truly fascinating bastion of lunacy. They’ll never meet a woman halfway by demonstrating her value to him and his ability to provide.

For example, all men (especially those looking for a wife who’s willing to be a SAHM) should always pay for the dates. If they can’t afford to pick up they check, they certainly can’t afford to feed you and your potential children.

But buying gifts and paying for dates is now considered “simping” or worse, “paying for sex.” Then they have the audacity to wonder why women won’t date them.

 

[Lidl Drip]

I must have missed all the pages of femcels seething about wanting dick here. Oh wait.

Right? It's not our thread that's constantly complaining about only matching with single moms on Tinder and talking about leaving the country in order to get laid. Most I have seen in this thread is women pitying younger women who will have to date zoomie men who have grown up watching porn since they were children. More often you find women venting about their relationships or saying they just straight up don't want to date men at all, but most women in this thread seem to get along well with men in real life and have normal happy relationships and just want to rant about misogynistic moids online.

Zero posts about "OMG Chad at work doesn't pay attention to me!!! I smell his seat when he gets up! How do I make him my tradhusband?!"... like that is what the female version of an incel would post. What we discuss here is pretty much the opposite of incel discourse.

 

[Android raptor]

>men are STILL hurt by the man vs bear question
The only problem with the bear is that it's too easy of an option. You want a real thinker? Imagine you're walking down the street at night, alone. Would you rather encounter a random man or a pitbull (the moid of the animal kingdom)?

Pitbull, most pits are fine. I've actually encountered random pits outside before, they were either skittish or friendly.

 

[Vibromatic Heart Bed]

Most I have seen in this thread is women pitying younger women who will have to date zoomie men who have grown up watching porn since they were children.

Most interactions I've had with zoomers have been fucking weird. They have no manners and they treat you like an NPC. Yesterday I saw a teenager drop his wallet on the subway, I waved to him and was like "hey you dropped your wallet!" and he just picked it up without even looking at me, no "thank you" or acknowledgement of any sort. Just turns to his friend and goes "broooooo she saved my life hahahaha"
I'm not expecting some huge show of appreciation, but at least a head nod in my direction would've been something?
Also yesterday I learned that zoomie boys consider it "zesty" to sit next to each other (hard not to overhear their loudass conversations)

 

[Steam Deck Verified]

There's incredibly ironic how moids will call threads exclusively for women "fat lonely cat lady gathering" and then under the same breathe, go to the lewd images thread on KF where the thread is nothing but art of almost naked or straight NSFW anime and video game women.

Reminds me of the thread tardraging over how popular Astarion from BG3 was, because his romantic arc was clearly nothing more than an unrealistic fairy tale appealing to fags and ugly cat ladies who hadn't moved past Twilight! But the Stellar Blade controversy, on the other hand, is a true and honest movement about censorship in video games, and not having fat tiddy waifus in skimpy clothing is one step above mandated hijabs for all. Pretty telling how viciously some men will mock women for enjoying a moving, fictional romance, because they're clearly delusional and ruining their prospects at a real relationship... but will furiously negrate anyone implying that maybe if you're writing passionate essays and starting a petition to reinstate what's essentially jerkbait, you might be too invested.

 

[isalaide]

The incel mind is a truly fascinating bastion of lunacy. They’ll never meet a woman halfway by demonstrating her value to him and his ability to provide.

For example, all men (especially those looking for a wife who’s willing to be a SAHM) should always pay for the dates. If they can’t afford to pick up they check, they certainly can’t afford to feed you and your potential children.

But buying gifts and paying for dates is now considered “simping” or worse, “paying for sex.” Then they have the audacity to wonder why women won’t date them.

Let us talk about engagement rings. Moids hate engagement rings. They hate that they are expensive, have no function other than to ornament a woman, and that that in law they are non-returnable gifts even if you don't get married. (true here, anyway.) You will see endless reeeee'ing about "literal golddigging" and "using a man's resources"; you know how they do go on.

But this is an elision of the original function of the engagement ring. Most Western societies have no custom of a bride-price. So the groom was expected to give to the prospective bride a token, readily convertable into cash, of his wealth and ability to provide for her. The tradmoids either refuse to accept or genuinely do not understand: when you screech that you will not pay down a lump of money on a engagement ring, you are telling all and sundry that you can't afford to provide for this woman.

Now, if the lady would prefer the cost of the engagement ring to be spent on something else, say a downpayment on a house, that's quite reasonable for the man to meet her wishes in this matter. But if what she wants is a sparkly rock as the traditional display of your ability to provide, refusing to pony that up for her is... not very traditional.

And broke. You look broke. Now, you might be trying to talk her into future tradwifery and SAHMing on the basis that you're broke now but will come good in a couple of years. But alternatively? You might just be a fucking broke chancer who is trying to grab at a lifestyle (and having a stay at home wife IS A LIFESTYLE) that you just can't afford.

The 'mom boards' and women-heavy online spaces are rammed full of dirt-poor, financially distressed 'SAHMs' of tiny kids who cannot afford to SAHM, because Mr Trad Moid over there can't fulfil his end of the deal: he can't comfortably provide for her and the children.

The first and best clue that the moid seeking to wed you is actually not a dude with ready money is when he can't even buy you a decent fucking ring. "REEEE WOMEN ARE SO MATERIALLLL" Look, moids, becoming a SAHM is in all honesty a one-way bet for a woman, particularly if we have a decent career with decent prospects. We are not taking that bet without some good evidence that you can hold up your end of the deal.

 

[Steam Deck Verified]

The 'mom boards' and women-heavy online spaces are rammed full of dirt-poor, financially distressed 'SAHMs' of tiny kids who cannot afford to SAHM, because Mr Trad Moid over there can't fulfil his end of the deal: he can't comfortably provide for her and the children.

Crazy amount of trads out there who view any woman who expects more than a Ring Pop and a simple court wedding in pajamas as a gold-digging womanchild who values appearances and showing off/being a princess over true love and responsible finances. As though 1) there's not a broad and comfy middle ground between a threadbare union and a $200k, go-into-debt all-out wedding bonanza, and 2) ignoring that a real Catholic trad would know that weddings are a sacrament and meant to be a meaningful celebration, so forcing your spouse into a cockroach wedding catered by White Castle because "but baaaaabe don't you think a honeymoon and down-payment are more important?? (Ignore the $500 I spent on DoorDash last month)" is not particularly trad.

 

[isalaide]

Crazy amount of trads out there who view any woman who expects more than a Ring Pop and a simple court wedding in pajamas as a gold-digging womanchild who values appearances and showing off/being a princess over true love and responsible finances. As though 1) there's not a broad and comfy middle ground between a threadbare union and a $200k, go-into-debt all-out wedding bonanza, and 2) ignoring that a real Catholic trad would know that weddings are a sacrament and meant to be a meaningful celebration, so forcing your spouse into a cockroach wedding catered by White Castle because "but baaaaabe don't you think a honeymoon and down-payment are more important?? (Ignore the $500 I spent on DoorDash last month)" is not particularly trad.

A person from a traditionally Catholic family would never attempt to dishonour his intended by failing to marry her 'properly' in the expected manner, because after the bride gave him one black eye, the rest of the bride's family would be lining up for a swing too.

The larper fake Catholic moids have this bizarre concept of an 'ideal wife' who somehow was both raised by loving, traditional Catholic parents, and is also accorded absolutely no value by them, so they will be fine with her having some pound shop registry office embarrassment with no 'do'. This is not what traditional Catholic fathers (and God help us all, mothers) expect for a much loved daughter's wedding. They expect her to be treated by her intended spouse like she is the most fucking important thing in his life.

Because they know if he can't even put on a show for one day that she is loved and valued by him above all others, then God help her once she's several kids deep and up to her eyes in housework. God help her when it really matters, how much he values her.

They go on and on about Family Values and the Importance of a Strong Family Background without the penny ever dropping that a strong family is not raising their daughter to be handed off to the first moid who comes to collect her. She is their beloved child. They value her and her siblings above all else. If you want to take her from the parental home, ostensibly for life, they want to be bloody sure you are going to treat her as well as you possibly can. (And that the 'best you can do' satisfies them as good enough for her.)

They cannot conceive of a relationship with a woman that doesn't involve penetrating her, so the love of a father for a daughter is just something they don't get. Fathers, at least good fathers, are not careless or disinterested in the matter of who their daughter's life partner, the father of their grandchildren, will be. They want better than "hurrr I have le right wing views and i decided sometimes i might be a cafflick even tho i have not even been baptised lol also my manager at the convenience store says i can work 2 shifts a week if i want".

Also, any moid stupid enough to tell a Catholic mother her daughter doesn't deserve a nice wedding is not going to survive that encounter.

 

[Thé au lait]

>Weddings
I can't reply to any of the posts, but it's more or less the same for Han. Equivalent to a bride price is that your husband gives your parents some amount of money or gifts for the privilege of marrying their daughter, and they return the favor on the wedding night with wedding gifts to the couple, these days often in the form of furniture or helping to pay for a marital home.
Being unwilling to do that is seen as an insult and a sign that he either doesn't care enough to take care of, or isn't financially incapable of providing for, his new wife. It's a fantastic way to piss off future in-laws and guarantee that they'll do what they can to prevent the marriage, and he's lucky if your father doesn't call his friends up to help beat the shit out of him for the insult.
It's something men would usually save up for, if not sell shit to be able to afford.

Pitbull, most pits are fine. I've actually encountered random pits outside before, they were either skittish or friendly.

Fuck it, I'll admit to this: I had a pitbull-greyhound mix as a child. She was a sweet little rescue, she'd cry whenever there was a storm until I hugged her, then promptly cry again the moment I let go. Loved chewing on wires and shoes, though.
I miss that dog.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Crazy amount of trads out there who view any woman who expects more than a Ring Pop and a simple court wedding in pajamas as a gold-digging womanchild who values appearances and showing off/being a princess over true love and responsible finances. As though 1) there's not a broad and comfy middle ground between a threadbare union and a $200k, go-into-debt all-out wedding bonanza, and 2) ignoring that a real Catholic trad would know that weddings are a sacrament and meant to be a meaningful celebration, so forcing your spouse into a cockroach wedding catered by White Castle because "but baaaaabe don't you think a honeymoon and down-payment are more important?? (Ignore the $500 I spent on DoorDash last month)" is not particularly trad.

I don’t think weddings should be overly expensive, but there should at least be effort put in to make it special, even on the cheaper end. I’ve seen parents that will pay for their kid’s weddings, and give them the most money towards what they want the most, instead of going all in on every aspect, as a way to not go over budget. The average wedding in the US is around $20K total, but honestly, I find it to be one event you should be willing to spend more on, as it’s a day you’ll look back on and have pictures of. Women that are overly content with too cheap a wedding to not look materialistic need to understand that it’s okay to demand more.

You don’t need the most expensive wedding dress on the market, but at least marry a guy that won’t throw a tantrum over a $1K wedding dress. You don’t need the biggest and most expensive floral arrangements out there, but don’t settle for a guy that thinks $500 for all wedding florals (including the bridal bouquet) is too much money. It’s a once in a lifetime event, or at least it should be viewed that way, so you know you’re getting a guy that values you and can be a provider. If parents on both ends like the coupling, both sides are typically pretty willing to help pay for it, but at the very least, get a guy that will pay for your wedding ring (preferably a solid gold one). Don’t go for a guy that thinks giving you a ring that will turn your finger green for your wedding is a decent idea. If a guy can’t take care of himself and have extra money to spend on at least that, he won’t be able to take care of you.

 

[Susanna]

Pitbull, most pits are fine. I've actually encountered random pits outside before, they were either skittish or friendly.

It only takes one bad encounter for the dog to rip your face off, and it's a fact that pitbulls are overrepresented in dog attack statistics. And their huge jaw muscles make it so that when they do bite, they do a lot of damage. It doesn't really matter whether that's because they're bred to be aggressive (pit as in pit fights), or because irresponsible people who shouldn't own any dog often think pitbulls are cool specifically because of their bad reputation get one and then make a hash of training it. Even someone who's trained dogs for a living knows to be wary around unknown dogs. I've had universally good experiences with pitbulls too, even dogs that tend to be wary or aggressive to strangers usually are friendly to me, but they still frighten me. They're mountains of muscle, and more prone to having bad days than other breeds. There are patterns to dog attacks, a retriever or shepherd is probably only going to bite once or twice and then run off, a pit bull has a much stronger prey drive and is very unlikely to stop before someone makes it. I'd be terrified to run into a loose one.

 

[Android raptor]

It only takes one bad encounter for the dog to rip your face off, and it's a fact that pitbulls are overrepresented in dog attack statistics. And their huge jaw muscles make it so that when they do bite, they do a lot of damage. It doesn't really matter whether that's because they're bred to be aggressive (pit as in pit fights), or because irresponsible people who shouldn't own any dog often think pitbulls are cool specifically because of their bad reputation get one and then make a hash of training it. Even someone who's trained dogs for a living knows to be wary around unknown dogs. I've had universally good experiences with pitbulls too, even dogs that tend to be wary or aggressive to strangers usually are friendly to me, but they still frighten me. They're mountains of muscle, and more prone to having bad days than other breeds. There are patterns to dog attacks, a retriever or shepherd is probably only going to bite once or twice and then run off, a pit bull has a much stronger prey drive and is very unlikely to stop before someone makes it. I'd be terrified to run into a loose one.

And you're still way more likely to get killed by a man than any kind of dog. There are about 30 fatal dog attacks a year in the US (mostly children under 4 that were probably left unsupervised around the dog) vs. approximately 3 women a day being murdered by their moids.

Most aggressive dog I've ever dealt with was a toy poodle. 9/10 if a dog acts aggressive to me, it's a small dog.

It only takes one bad encounter with a moid to end up like Junko Furuta.

 

[Lidl Drip]

I believe there is already a pitbull debate thread, this ain't it. Pitbulls are the niggers of dogs.

 

[Susanna]

And you're still way more likely to get killed by a man than any kind of dog. There are about 30 fatal dog attacks a year in the US (mostly children under 4 that were probably left unsupervised around the dog) vs. approximately 3 women a day being murdered by their moids.

Most aggressive dog I've ever dealt with was a toy poodle. 9/10 if a dog acts aggressive to me, it's a small dog.

It only takes one bad encounter with a moid to end up like Junko Furuta.

It's not like I'm going around hugging men in dark alleys either. Men and dogs are both dangerous.

Miniature breeds are weird, yeah, but I'd rather take a 100% chance to fight a toy poodle than a 5% chance to fight a pitbull.